Topher
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Western gaming needs an enema
Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired, and SP issue statement
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Western gaming needs an enema
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
There's been a lot of tech firings the past year. And some companies firing did it in the 1,000s or maybe even 10,000s. Hopefully, those mass layoffs did purposely involve targeting bad political employees. But who knows.
Kacho
Gold Member
Yes, and we are long overdue
viveks86
Member
And Ken Kutaragi as a fallen legend who wanted Cell to rule the world!
realcool
Member
Sony five years ago when a career criminal died of a fentanyl overdose and cities burned:
demigod
Member
I doubt anything will happen besides a slap on the wrist.
Lionel Richie
Member
Exactly. If anyone wants to make gross jokes online about murder, they can. Nobody is stopping them. Just don't expect to be able to keep your job if you're stupid and brazen enough not to conceal your identity.
And yet, it seems that there are some who just don't get it. I wonder if they've ever even had a job.
This guy probably made this post as parody, which is ironic considering he is nature's parody of what a human being is.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
I would absolutely be happy if Sony just neutrally stay out of politics, like its Japanese fellow Nintendo.
But I guess PlayStation is virtually a western company and many of its employees are biased, radically biased.
Unknown Soldier
Member
PlayStation Studios is pretty much just North America now that Sony has basically closed all their studios in Japan and Europe except Team Asobi
This probably causes Sony problems because they are otherwise a Japanese company
TransTrender
Gold Member
LMAO get the fuck out of here
Why did it take until current year to see this meme?
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
They still have a few Europe studios, Guerilla and Housemarque for instance, but yeah, PS pretty much completely lost its Japanese lineage. Still gonna gripe that they closed Japan Studio.
Bridges
Member
Making a lame, extremely poor taste joke about a dead man before the body is even cold apparently is "standing up against fascism"
How delusional do you have to be to actually believe that? Really I don't understand what this world is coming to where people are so brazen to celebrate a murder just because they don't like the guy's opinions. Absolutely reprehensible.
How delusional do you have to be to actually believe that? Really I don't understand what this world is coming to where people are so brazen to celebrate a murder just because they don't like the guy's opinions. Absolutely reprehensible.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Unhinged liberals who for years were unleashed. Racist this, nazi that. Cancel culture, doxxing, that guy should be killed etc…
A lot of Wild West attitudes spiderwebbed on social media untamed.
But past year a lot of that DEI, woke, lefty crud has been getting cracked down or ignored. And this Kirk killing giving them a reason to cheer and laugh had been a huge tipping point.
Now it seems companies are going beyond what I said above and outright firing people for being jackasses as it's a bad look on them employing them. Especially when these losers do it with their employers attached to it. So it goes to show these people are so brainwashed into it they can't even separate home life with their 9-5 careers.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Its funny, I have noticed an influx of new users or accounts with very low messages (probably alt accounts) that are constantly just reacting with laugh emojis to messages here. Most of them are reacting to people defending Charlie Kirk or condemning those who are laughing about his death
Cowards
Cowards
geary
Member
I would @ directly the japan leadership
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
No doubt. Everyone contact Totoki. He seems like a no BS kind of ceo who isn't afraid of gutting studios. You can't trust managers doing it because those hiring people might be wackos too protecting their crazy buddies.
Just go direct.
I did that years ago when Toms Shoes tried to rip me off not allowing me to refund something. Went through 3 CS people and every asshole said I can't as the order I wanted cancelled is already in motion. They couldnt guarantee delivery by Xmas so I said cancel it, I said fuck this and found out the CEOs email. I emailed him and literally the next day some CS manager guy called me, apologized, cancelled the order I wanted stop shipped and even gave me a $10 or $20 online coupon.
So sometimes if the low level people do jack shit, escalate it and maybe a higher up guy will solve the issue. The last thing a high level boss wants is pissed off customers using up his time. So he'll likely green light what you want assuming it's a reasonable request and he'll force it through. The last thing he wants is me emailing him again.
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Japanese companies are cut throat.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Looking at Sucker Punch staff that probably loved their idiotic senior programmers comments. If she is fired it's only to save face . They are not sorry for their words or lack of humanity. They are only sorry about their customer based reactions.
I wish both companies nothing but the worst.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I am not sure why people are singling out Sony here, I mean it seems part of the zeitgeist to trash any thread about woke Sony, but you had someone working for Sony that made a stupid heinous comment and because we are in corpo America of post cancel culture being normalised they got fired… people get bloodthirsty and want what? The entire company gone?
The sadder part was that many western devs make similar comments or like those comments and there are people from all kind of companies and studios: MS, Activision, EA, Ubisoft, etc…
The saddest part is that yes, it is censorship and death of free speech if people hound you and find out where you work and force you to get fired (this person made it easy), but so is the fear of getting murdered because of what you say.
Cancel culture was normalised and it is part of the arms race in the online and civil discourse and we need to stop that, but how do you convince people that the practice is unacceptable? We have only managed to convince people it works and if you do not use this weapon you are just hurting yourself… again round of applause to us as a civilisation for that.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I worked a warehouse side job for a thrift store. The store had a high turnover rate.
In my time there we had 2 transgender people come through. Both were mentally fucked up. One would just sit on the sales floor and cry when stressed. The other had multiple hr complaints and was fired for constantly talking about shooting shit and asking people questions about killing animals and other weird shit.
My point being is this extreme left wing belief system (furries? ) is really fucking these young people up.
The fact that Kirk's murderer used the word fascist there is no doubt he bought into their woke ideology.
geary
Member
Imagine someone know wrote to him a thorough explaining the PR nightmare the gaming industry and specially Sony is right now.
He will react immediately
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Based off his post I don't think he said get rid of Sony.
I think people in general just mean get rid of the bad apples that can skew making political products with bad takes on social media.
I don't think anyone is witch hunting PD, or whichever studios make astrobot or baseball. Nor aiming their bullseye at anyone working in their TV or camera lens divisions.
I think holistically in gaming there's a weird skew to politically driven employees in SP narrative kinds of games. Unless I'm wrong I dont get a sense you get these kind of crazy people making sports games, harmonix guitar games or any dev making vampire survivor clones. But in SP plot heavy games there seems to be lots of them.
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GnomeChimpsky
Member
What the fuck is the political right in the US doing? Where are the congressional hearings on social media companies? Haul the CEOs of Reddit and Twitch, Visa and Mastercard in there and ask them why they are monetizing 100 000 posts about corking up a bottle to celebrate Trump's supposed death last week, or just play any random Hasan Piker video and ask how much they paid him for it. Is it because those ancient farts don't know what a Reddit is? JD Vance get on this!
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I think it's more there is less opportunity to virtue signal in those games.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
The fact is there is no quick fix.
Too many youth have been indoctrinated by School and tick tock. They maybe educated but lack Wisdom.
People were woke before but now becoming awake. The tide is shifting and more people are snapping out of this insane woke epidemic. It is a long process of healing.
simpatico
Member
investors might have to air drop entirely new management teams. I don't know there is anyone in some of these companies who would even see it as rot.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I think it goes beyond kids because a lot of messed up people are in their 40s and higher.
I get a sense they were probably chill people 15-20 years ago before social media took off becoming the circus it is starting maybe 10 years ago.
A lot of social media companies got started around the same time in mid/late 2000s. And those first slew of years were just people uploading boring every day posts or funny videos on YT.
So somehow even a 35 year old changed to become a modern day 45-50 year old crazy worker.
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Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
Banned
Lmaooo, GAF cares about Charlie Kirk? Didn't see that one coming.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Which side are the snowflakes again?
Close down reddit entirely?
Violence loving game devs should all be fired.
Political Discords servers we dont agree with all need to be shutdown.
Deplatform anyone who celebrated/wasnt sad Kirk was killed.
^^What does this sound like. (im sure you have a smarmy answer but you know the truth)
Microsoft devs are part of the "celebrating" Charlie Kirks death "cult" so purchasing on Microsoft consoles is still supporting the devs you are against.
Purchasing on Sony is also supporting the devs you are against.
This is first party deep mate.
RetroGamingUK
Member
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
I don't disagree what you said about refraining from cancel culture.
But about Sony, no one was saying wanting the company gone, why acted so hyperbolic? People were talk Sony here probably because it was sucker punch dev and their new game will be out in less than a month. Like I mentioned, I personally just hope game studios can stay away stirring the politic shithole. Nintendo has always been political free, and it's loved by both sides.
The other hand, in terms of free speech. I very much disapprove cancel culture, but to be fair it has been overwhelmingly a one side thing. For years there were only people in the central/ right getting cancelled for not agreeing with extreme leftist opinions. You cannot just jump out and play victim when you are the perpetrator for most years.
While I don't support those practices, it's not death of free speech. You need to understand, free speech lets you to speak freely, legally. But that doesn't make you immune to job termination if your employer thinks the those speeches are violating their companies value and policy, especially in private sector.
Its more to do with activitists actualy running games into the ground by injecting their lame ideas into everything
vpance
Member
Yeah this is why you can't support any of these games. And it's easy to tell who they are. Likely many employees in high level positions are sharing these views.
Imagine giving your money to people who would be happy if you died or even fuck you over in some small way if they knew your beliefs, and it was convenient for them to do so. No thanks.
PeteBull
Member
My felow Gafer bro, series is not about americans, if u made any effort of clicking on that 1min long trailer u would know that, its about russian kgb agents pretending to be american couple durning late cold warLOL, Putin is a bureaucrat, he's always been one his whole life. It's funny how people fantasize about him being some kind of James Bond
-The Eastern mindset:
-a shitty American TV show made for dumb 13 years old.
I am joking but if you're serious I hope you're not older than 13, because it would be embarrassing to think that this Hollywood garbage is in any way representative of reality as an adult (and ironically, it would confirm all the worst stereotypes about Americans).
About my age- im 43 so experienced actual communism here in poland(from fun stuff- empty shelves on most of the shops, including food, and toilet paper queues, just 2 quick funny examples ;p ), its fall, and how capitalism looked early on, experienced feminism invading my society too over decades and what it did to birthrate
Ppl in the west dont realise how poor 99% of ppl living under communism were(exceptions were political police and higher ups of the party, those lived like kings in comparision, no equality ;p), both of my parents were highly college educated and i still had this 14inch yellow(but black and white) beauty till 1995:
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
It has more do to with fact we about to enter horrible future which people no longer can express their free thought without fearing for their life.
People should be allowed express their opinion and other people allowed to disagree and even criticize….you don't want a future which you see people answer any debate (politics or not) through violence.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Kotaro
Member
PropellerEar
Member
Tales from the ass...
Sadly these people are everywhere, also big companies/publishers allow and favor certain type of political discourse, and not balanced one.
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Gonzito
Gold Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Amen to that.
And it's not just a political thing either. Ever since it seemed wacky workers took control of many studios, the games are worse and seem to take way longer to make with crazier budgets. It's like it all correlates together.
Maybe if they are gassed, games come out sooner too.
And these are just the people dumb enough to express their abhorent opinion in the public. Now add all the people who just say it in private or don't say it at all but have the same mindset and you can imagine how deep the rot runs in US gaming studios. It directly correlates with the sharp decline in quality of the games these studios develop.
OuterLimits
Member
It is amazing the amount of people posting in glee over a father with two young kids being murdered simply because they did not like his political opinions. A school board member in my county in VA posted: "Call me old fashioned, but I remember when we used to be ok with shooting Nazis". Yeah, this psycho lady should definitely be on the school board. 
Look, it isn't shocking that some video game developers are going to post shit like that. That's gross but whatever. Teachers and elected school board members celebrating fucking murder is disturbing.
Look, it isn't shocking that some video game developers are going to post shit like that. That's gross but whatever. Teachers and elected school board members celebrating fucking murder is disturbing.
GinSama
Member
I really don't understand how people that have jobs with a lot visibility love express their beliefs in such unique way that will cost their job, bring canceled etc, etc.
Like dude keep your opinion not public? Like do they expect not having any backlash?
Also not gaming related, but DC cancelled the new Red Hood just after the first issue just because the writer couldn't stay quiet, and said something like I hope the bullet is ok.....
Wrf?!?? At the end of day is so sick the lack of empathy, the cold way some people are celebrating this shit ...this is politic assassination, a wife just lost a husband, a kid lost his dad, the guy got killed just for speaking?!?!!
Like dude keep your opinion not public? Like do they expect not having any backlash?
Also not gaming related, but DC cancelled the new Red Hood just after the first issue just because the writer couldn't stay quiet, and said something like I hope the bullet is ok.....
Wrf?!?? At the end of day is so sick the lack of empathy, the cold way some people are celebrating this shit ...this is politic assassination, a wife just lost a husband, a kid lost his dad, the guy got killed just for speaking?!?!!
PropellerEar
Member
The wacky workers are hired and allowed to be wacky by total looney middle management and HR.