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Why do you think people are seemingly acting out what they once decried?Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.
Why do you think people are seemingly acting out what they once decried?Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.
Nope.Have Suckerpunch or Sony Cali commented at all yet?
Sad but true.Well in life, you can be walked on or do the walking. I think most people dont want to be walked on.
Whats crazy is actually an additional part two of what you said.Thank God the coward murderer is caught and CK is about to receive justice for this cowardly and brutal act that happened to him. Cowardly act and brutal act must not be justified. Game developers can make there own opinion, but as a human being and with goodness and common sense, there is a fine line between what is good and what is evil and we cannot celebrate cowardly and brutal act and murdering people who actually advocate free and peaceful speech and good debates.
Not to mention..... advocating, endorsing, and celebrating flat out murder of an individual is not even human. The guy had his neck blown off on a live stream and you have people gleefully celebrating it. It's disgusting.Or, more accurately, "Cancel culture was fine when it was happening to them. It is terrible and wrong now that it's happening to us."
The folks who created the tactic don't get to complain when the pendulum they built swings around to them. What is it they used to say? Oh, I remember. "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences."
That coward murderer, should be labeled as coward, a yellow, forever and must be included to his name and epitaph on his grave.Whats crazy is actually an additional part two of what you said.
It's bad enough people gloat over a dead political guy (he didnt even have an official government role), but to publicly jump up and down on social media is a weird thing to show to the world. I can see people being proud posting their fav team won a championship or their kid graduated high school, but to cheer a political guy got shot on stage and died is an odd hill to stand on and cheer.
I guess all these people are really confident their views are so widely accepted in good taste, they'll keep their job no problem.
Then I will give it a go and fix her.Hmmm I can fix he…. actually no, impossible
Have Suckerpunch or Sony Cali commented at all yet?
The silence is deafening.Not a word
Kind of interesting how the cancel culture has been adopted by the people who most cried against it when it first appeared.
Not a word
The corporate playbook, especially from big companies like say the NFL. You drop negative news you want lost on a Friday.
When it's good news and you want it to be seen, you drop it Monday.
In this case you'd expect if Sony cares, they will drop the news Monday. But they could have their head the sand hoping it just blows away. It will be telling to be honest.
Corporations have a way of overthinking this shit so you may be right. Most other corporations have made statements about it. I think Sony's head is in the sand, as you say.
There absolutely is. For example, the both have an end state with no government.There is nothing remotely similar about "extreme" capitalism and communism.
Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.Getting a person fired because they hurt someone's feelings is one thing. Getting a person fired because they celebrated the murder of an innocent man is completely fair game as far as I'm concerned.
I'm sure people have been making fun of stuff since the caveman days. One tribe gets a disease and a rival tribe on the other side of the river probably laughed.Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.
Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.
People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.
I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.
I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.
In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.
I didn't say it was ok, but it is basically normal enough. People losing their jobs for normal behaviour isn't ok either.I'm sure people have been making fun of stuff since the caveman days.
Doesnt mean it's ok.
So basically Asmongold is in control of HR policy. Is that ok? Does he get to get upset about something and then decide if people should be fired?spiraled into guys like Asmongold trying to compile a list of gaming employees
And why is it ok to keep their jobs if it makes the company and products get a bad spotlight?I didn't say it was ok, but it is basically normal enough. People losing their jobs for normal behaviour isn't ok either.
So basically Asmongold is in control of HR policy. Is that ok? Does he get to get upset about something and then decide if people should be fired?
And why is it ok to keep their jobs if it makes the company and products get a bad spotlight?
Who said Asmongold is acting as HR?
People say awful things after a tragedy every single time.
IMO, you only have something to fear if HR thinks what you said about Charlie Kirk's death is heinous.Because Asmongold is compiling a blacklist based on what he thinks is unacceptable behaviour and that pressure is part of people getting fired. If you don't think it's a little sinister to fear being put on a YouTuber's list because it might mean you lose your livelihood, all because you put a personal opinion out, I don't know what to say.
I'm not celebrating Kirk's death, I said it was a terrible thing to happen.
Nope.
I'll give them Monday to release a statement. Maybe they needed a few days to sort this out internally and no point releasing it on a weekend. There's almost no gaming news released on weekends.
If you dont see it Monday, it's not coming.
Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.
Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.
People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.
I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.
I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.
In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.
Leftist were ruining people's lives over a fucking 10 year old tweet that is now considered "offensive", there was a bitch on TikTok that would find guys that made sexist statements, and she'd literally post about how she found them, contacted their job, etc… they literally got their lives ruined over nothingBecause Asmongold is compiling a blacklist based on what he thinks is unacceptable behaviour and that pressure is part of people getting fired. If you don't think it's a little sinister to fear being put on a YouTuber's list because it might mean you lose your livelihood, all because you put a personal opinion out, I don't know what to say.
I'm not celebrating Kirk's death, I said it was a terrible thing to happen.
Leftist were ruining people's lives over a fucking 10 year old tweet that is now considered "offensive", there was a bitch on TikTok that would find guys that made sexist statements, and she'd literally post about how she found them, contacted their job, etc… they literally got their lives ruined over nothing
As far as I'm concerned, celebrating an innocent persons death is far worse than wearing blackface when you were 17 years old… put all of these fucks on a list and make it impossible to get a job.
Personal opinions isn't a catch all statement and it certainly isn't a get out of jail free card.
The rules for thee, not for me shit is over with that the leftist have adopted.
Ruin their fucking lives…. Which is still a slap on the wrist compared to what happen to Charlie and his poor wife and kids
All for having an opinion and being christian
I certainly want every single one of them to feel the most devastating impact that they can.And for loving USA too.
I don't want lives to be ruin but these people cheering or mocking post it publicly so sadly whether someone reports it or not, it will be seen by their employer or their future employer
Leftist were ruining people's lives over a fucking 10 year old tweet that is now considered "offensive", there was a bitch on TikTok that would find guys that made sexist statements, and she'd literally post about how she found them, contacted their job, etc… they literally got their lives ruined over nothing
As far as I'm concerned, celebrating an innocent persons death is far worse than wearing blackface when you were 17 years old… put all of these fucks on a list and make it impossible to get a job.
Personal opinions isn't a catch all statement and it certainly isn't a get out of jail free card.
The rules for thee, not for me shit is over with that the leftist have adopted.
Ruin their fucking lives…. Which is still a slap on the wrist compared to what happen to Charlie and his poor wife and kids
All for having an opinion and being christian
Bullshit, rightwing doesnt call to killing leftist, transformers/alphabet ppl, we just think there is high probability of mental inless there so those ppl need help, we dont want them dead, we want them to receive help.One side strongly believes one thing. The other side strongly believes another. Both think it's deserved for lives to be ruined because of a tweet. And both think it's unfair for lives to be ruined for a tweet.
You're both probably getting played by people who stand to gain from the bad feeling and chaos.
Sad to see it.
While your sentiment rings true, you're seemingly ignoring the context of these situations.One side strongly believes one thing. The other side strongly believes another. Both think it's deserved for lives to be ruined because of a tweet. And both think it's unfair for lives to be ruined for a tweet.
You're both probably getting played by people who stand to gain from the bad feeling and chaos.
Sad to see it.
As long as the operators make sure there's no false positives in this, I think this might actually be an OK initiative in this context. Generally, I'm not a huge fan of naming and shaming others, but this is different. These people are demons.A database will go online soon:
"This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.
This is the largest firing operation in history."
Expose Charlie's Murderers
www.charliesmurderers.com
While your sentiment rings true, you're seemingly ignoring the context of these situations.
One side vilified and attempted to destroy and cancel another side for years - they played by a different set of rules.
Now that other side is sick of it, and rightly so
Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.
Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.
People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.
I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.
I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.
In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.
I didn't say it was ok, I think it's terrible that a family is without a father and a husband and I do not think people should be celebrating it."words on a screen" , "a mean comment" , "saying something obscene" ,"ill advised comment" In this case specifically its cheering for the "cold blooded murder of a young father" but in your mind its OK because its JUST " a mean/ill advised comment" If you think thats OK thats on you. Most of us in this thread draw a moral line and see otherwise.
Its actually illegal to create a site like this (w/ the intent to get people fired, harassed, or stalked as some examples). The site is literally called "CharliesMurderers". A single mentally deranged individual is the sole person who acted on this.As long as the operators make sure there's no false positives in this, I think this might actually be an OK initiative in this context. Generally, I'm not a huge fan of naming and shaming others, but this is different. These people are demons.
Maybe I am not fully understanding you…but up until recently, this is not a both sides issue.One side says that they are sick of how the other side behaved for years and that has led to the current situation. ...and so does the other side.
Both sides will be able to point to people who have been killed for their beliefs and the way they chose to live their lives.
This is not cancel culture. Cancel cuture is when you get fired or banned for liking a harmless political tweet / meme.Cancel culture on NeoGaf in action.
I'm not part of that group. I don't believe in deplatforming. However, if you are calling for violence, then yes. Incitement of violence is both illegal and reprehensible.
Nothing to do with this conversation but I think that platforms like X should require you to publicly identify yourself and Balkanize the anonymous accounts from the public ones. Kind of how a a newspaper used to separate LTEs and op-eds. I believe we would see the level of discourse be more civilized.
This all stems from the education system in the U.S. and E.U. (I can attest to Latín America too) and the depravity if this generation of parents.
I don't know why this is, but he is 100% spot on. It's sad we don't have proper parenting anymore; people have raised ignorant monsters.
Now Im confused. I thought Gamergate 2.0 had been and gone. Aren't we on gamergate 4.0 early access right now?A rather bitchy update from Kotaku of course
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Ghost Of Yotei Dev Fired Over Charlie Kirk Joke After Pressure Campaign
Gamergate 2.0 is looking to cancel people in the wake of the assassinationkotaku.com
It is if you ever want to deescalate things.Maybe I am not fully understanding you…but up until recently, this is not a both sides issue.
Nope.
I'll give them Monday to release a statement. Maybe they needed a few days to sort this out internally and no point releasing it on a weekend. There's almost no gaming news released on weekends.
If you dont see it Monday, it's not coming.
Cancel culture on NeoGaf in action.
Fried their nut ass.Cancel culture on NeoGaf in action.
It's like a bully who keeps hitting his victim for years despite the bullied repeatedly begging him to stop. And once he finally punches back the bully goes "woah, nelly, I thought you were anti-bullying, what a hypocrite you are, stop giving it back to me, just let me keep punching you and all is fine again. Don't you see your hypocrisy!"Yup.
It's been years of this. Only the past 12 months or so have people stood up to cancel culture, DEI, Woke, etc... People arent afraid anymore to do it back and companies are acknowledging that and walking back policies and now firing people. It took a while, but the pendulum is swinging back hard. Probably a lot of that has to do with Trump in charge and he hates this kind of leftie stuff too.
In life, you can be a punching bag taking all the jabs or punch back. It gets to a point you punch back. And there is no way the original guy doing the punching first gets to claim no more punches allowed when he gets hit later.
Sometimes you got to be a man and take a punch in the face back. It's like grade school fights. You can either sit there and be picked on for years or stand up for yourself.
And whats happening now is the right is cancel culturing the left with job losses. And IMO that's an even better way than resorting back to violence because it kills their careers and hopefully improves the corporate culture there so better products are made. So it could be a long term win for consumers with better products too. Getting punched in the face only hurts for 10 minutes. Getting blacklisted in a career might be 10 years. Lesson learned.
Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.
Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.
People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.
I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.
I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.
In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.
Gamergate was over a decade ago. At this point it's Gamergate Remake IntergradeNow Im confused. I thought Gamergate 2.0 had been and gone. Aren't we on gamergate 4.0 early access right now?