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[Trilobit]

You want to talk about dog whistles? What the hell do you think happens when you call your opposition "literally Hitler" for years on end? Now we know.

It's like what I heard on the latest episode of Nerdrotic. The left don't have a dog whistle. They have a blowhorn, because they feel no shame or fear of saying disgusting things publicly.

Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.

Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.

People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.

I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.

I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.

In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.

If you don't draw a line with people celebrating an assassination and even calling for more murders, if you don't show them that what they said is beyond horrifying and has real life consequences, then things risk getting even worse. If calls to more murders becomes acceptable in a society then the next natural step is the risk of more murders, or at the very least more violence.

Some leftists even seemed shocked that what they did was reprehensible by the majority. They were so stuck in their bubbles that their worldview had become warped.

 

[calico]

Has there been any point where you could publicly celebrate or advocate for a non-criminal being assassinated without there being a high chance your employer would (correctly) think you are a psychotic lunatic and get rid of you? The idea that this is some new standard 'the right' has just adopted is ludicrous. This has always been the standard.

I disagree that this is comparable to deciding you don't like an individual and then trawling through their online history desperately trying to find something 'bad' they said x years ago which you can use to try and get them fired. In that scenario you do not give a shit about the 'bad' thing they said, it is merely ammunition to achieve a goal you already had.

Also, complaining about this after your own side has already advanced from this to openly advocating for murdering anyone who holds different views means your concerns should not be taken seriously. Go address the far more serious problem, which is your side widely advocating for murder, and then maybe we can revisit this topic.

 

[ungalo]

Arguably it's the same thing - people are responding emotionally to words on a screen and cheering on people getting some kind of comeuppance.

Personally, I think it's a terrible thing that happened but those who are raging at "the left" after someone said a mean comment probably ought to get a grip.

People say awful things after a tragedy every single time. There are always jokes after a disaster. This is par for the course.

I don't know where the invisible line is where saying something obscene in public is, but I don't think that making a very ill advised comment about a terrible thing happening to a politician (or politician adjacent activist) you don't agree with should automatically be grounds for losing a job.

I don't think you're going to shape a positive society by creating a situation where people are worried that they might impulsively say the wrong thing and lose their job for it. I think you also run the risk of creating an oppressive air where the line of what is considered obscene and job-loss-worthy gets more and more intrusive.

In short, I despair somewhat at the way people are blind to the wrongdoings of their own side, as long as it's being done to the other side.

I can agree with the last line but not the part before. There is no standards nowadays when it comes to speech, just as with anything else. People need to re-learn how to behave from the very start, with proper consequences. I'm including myself because social media fucked everything up.

Cheering for this kind of shit is not just saying "a wrong thing" out of impulse. It's how you destroy a functional society.

 

[The_Mike]

This is on the other thread, but to put to rest that the murderer was somehow a conservative. His parents already said he was recently radicalized.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-ne...yler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

Nothing screams conservative more than having a furry trans partner and writing fascist slogans on shells

 

[The_Mike]

It could be argued that Discord is a competitor to Reddit.
But you guys are arguing we need to moderate that even more for people we dont agree with even if it should be easy to just ignore subreddits and Discord servers you dont want to interact with.


Both Reddit and Discord have become pretty heavily moderated these days.
You cant really moderate every discord server but they are doing their best.(i guess).


If you know where to look theres a few Reddit replacement that are like the old reddit if you remember before reddit got basically site wide moderation there would be NSFW subreddits for police chases that end badly.
Reddit is relatively tame compared to what it used to be.


Replacements exist they just arent as mainstream........yet.


Shut down Reddit and Discord and people will move to the new ones then they will become mainstream and we will be right back where we at right now.


Deplatforming people who have opposing views not directly inciting violence cuz yeah deplatform them, but they just dont feel sorry for Kirk or call him names is also weird.

Closing reddit will just make the extremists move to another platform.
Maybe even a closed one, hiding further behind insane opinions and violence and hate.

 

[Novaex]

Things might get interesting soon. Another tweet I saw said that the FBI has access to all his social media accounts including Reddit.
Especially Reddit and Bluesky have become an absolute cesspool of radicalisation.
My hope is that the CEO's, Owners, Admins and everybody else in charge of these platforms get their asses dragged to Washington and they will be forced to answer why they allowed it to happen.

 

[Bernardougf]

Its actually illegal to create a site like this (w/ the intent to get people fired, harassed, or stalked as some examples). The site is literally called "CharliesMurderers". A single mentally deranged individual is the sole person who acted on this.

O I disagree... if you have media outlets, yotubers, forums, calling him a Nazi and a Facist, those are not meaningless words as much as the left trys to make them to be, those words are supposed to be attached to a dark history of murder/crimes/genocide, then you are bound to eventually run this ideas into a deranged scared individual, who will trully believe that person is the next Hitler and will try to end things before it gets worse.

The act is committed by one individual, the idea that was selled that culminated into that act is many people fault, and the open celebration on social media proofs this.

Demonize antagonists with false wrong comparatives, using awful criminal labels, has been the left way for years, the rest is a ditect consequence of this.

 

[Black_Stride]

Closing reddit will just make the extremists move to another platform.
Maybe even a closed one, hiding further behind insane opinions and violence and hate.

Exactly.

Reddit and Discord actually have some site wide moderation, those darker places have basically no moderation.
You have to get the site shutdown to do any moderation....many are hosted in weird places where basically they just say FU.

Reddit, Discord, BlueSky, Twitter as shitty places as they are, they are actually the lesser evil.

Grummz is internet savvy, people on this forum are internet savvy, do they really think a solution is to close Reddit and Discord.
People are getting really unhinged over this guy.

 

[Bernardougf]

Exactly.

Reddit and Discord actually have some site wide moderation, those darker places have basically no moderation.
You have to get the site shutdown to do any moderation....many are hosted in weird places where basically they just say FU.

Reddit, Discord, BlueSky, Twitter as shitty places as they are, they are actually the lesser evil.

Grummz is internet savvy, people on this forum are internet savvy, do they really think a solution is to close Reddit and Discord.
People are getting really unhinged over this guy.

Well some accountability has to be had.. not closing anything but demanding some explanation and improved moderation ?.. the reeee thread for example is so bizarre that it had to be hidden (but not closed) by the mods because there are a lot of celebration over there, is disgusting, these outlets are not private conversations, they are open to anyone to see, its the type of conversations that you would "think" that belonged in some dark corner of the internet, like the dark corners that pedophiles go to talk and hide because of the shame and the crime, but nope, right there in the purple forum, people openly cheering and talking "good" about murder like it was nothing, and I only screened to the front page before I couldn't see that shit anymore. Letting murder being normalized,celebrated and discussed in a good view openly without consequences for those sites its definitely not the way to continue from now on imho. You cant trivialize murder. Never.

 

[The_Mike]

Edit: Apparently he is just a comedian and doesn't deserve the traffic

 

[calico]

Reddit, BS and (to a lesser extent) Discord really only moderate one side though. I think this does lead people into thinking 'well if everyone is saying this somewhere as mainstream as Reddit then not only is it ok for me to say it, but I have to say it to fit in with the group'.

Opposing views on Reddit will often be downvoted to oblivion, thus further giving the impression that 'everyone' holds that 'correct' view. The whole way it is built discourages dissent and rewards and encourages groupthink. Add a ton of bots into the mix and you are creating people with a very warped sense of what the irl society around them actually thinks.

Views which are equally as violent in nature as those regularly expressed and allowed from the left on Reddit would be instantly banned if they were coming from the right. Often, simply disagreeing and expressing a right leaning but widely held (irl) opinion would be an instant ban.

Before Twitter was bought, every major online platform operated with this same 'rules for one side but not the other' approach. This is why Elon became so hated overnight: his purchase of Twitter instantly destroyed the left's ability to unilaterally decide which views were permitted to be expressed online and even which news was allowed to spread online, at least on any significant platform.

 

[Gonzito]

Please listen to the video with this music in the background

 

[SuperC]

 

[ungalo]

Well some accountability has to be had.. not closing anything but demanding some explanation and improved moderation ?.. the reeee thread for example is so bizarre that it had to be hidden (but not closed) by the mods because there are a lot of celebration over there, is disgusting, these outlets are not private conversations, they are open to anyone to see, its the type of conversations that you would "think" that belonged in some dark corner of the internet, like the dark corners that pedophiles go to talk and hide because of the shame and the crime, but nope, right there in the purple forum, people openly cheering and talking "good" about murder like it was nothing, and I only screened to the front page before I couldn't see that shit anymore. Letting murder being normalized,celebrated and discussed in a good view openly without consequences for those sites its definitely not the way to continue from now on imho. You cant trivialize murder. Never.

I'm not american i don't know if a general call for violence or glorification of violent behavior are an offense in the US, if it's not the Supreme Court should evolve on the matter, as simple as that.

And saying that deplatforming constantly those people would not do anything is weird. Doesn't matter if the most radicalized people can get away with it by moving to more obscure plateforms, it prevents this shit from being accessible to new people.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Already posted, obvious parody by a comedian

 

[Black_Stride]

Well some accountability has to be had.. not closing anything but demanding some explanation and improved moderation ?.. the reeee thread for example is so bizarre that it had to be hidden (but not closed) by the mods because there are a lot of celebration over there, is disgusting, these outlets are not private conversations, they are open to anyone to see, its the type of conversations that you would "think" that belonged in some dark corner of the internet, like the dark corners that pedophiles go to talk and hide because of the shame and the crime, but nope, right there in the purple forum, people openly cheering and talking "good" about murder like it was nothing, and I only screened to the front page before I couldn't see that shit anymore. Letting murder being normalized,celebrated and discussed in a good view openly without consequences for those sites its definitely not the way to continue from now on imho. You cant trivialize murder. Never.

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

 

[Ashamam]

Is 54 pages of politics enough yet? I vote for closing the thread and talking about games again. I thought that was the mod policy anyway?

 

[Bernardougf]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

If you think that chearing murder is perfectly normal and throwing a apen party is ok ... than this conversation is over because you definitely dont think like me.

 

[Bernardougf]

Is 54 pages of politics enough yet? I vote for closing the thread and talking about games again. I thought that was the mod policy anyway?

Theres a ignore button in the corner, this is the only thread discussing this. You will be fine.

 

[Negotiator101]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

This is some take, I'll give you that.

 

[ungalo]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

What ? No, celebrating the murder is only steps shy away from the actual murder.

If people don't care they can shut up or even just say they don't care, the people we're talking about obviously care just not in the same way, weird reasoning you got there.

Doesn't really matter if it's Charlie Kirk or not, if he was a debater or just a random, the only thing that matters here is what this type of behavior is fostering.

 

[Black_Stride]

If you think that chearing murder is perfectly normal and throwing a apen party is ok ... than this conversation is over because you definitely dont think like me.

Normal? No.
Crime? No.
Worthy of being doxxed? No.


Theres alot of shitty things out there I dont agree with that I know arent worth being punished for.

Even with the current situation, there are things I didnt agree with Kirk about, but I dont think he should have been deplatformed and certainly didnt deserve to get shot.

 

[geary]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

Crazy thought, but how about not post anything related to his death on social media if you dont care / dislike the person....I know...is mind-blowing in this time and age.

 

[Trilobit]

Is 54 pages of politics enough yet? I vote for closing the thread and talking about games again. I thought that was the mod policy anyway?

These 54 virtual pages must be a real burden on your shoulders. If there only was an ignore button for threads...

 

[Black_Stride]

Crazy thought, but how about not post anything related to his death on social media if you dont care / dislike the person....I know...is mind-blowing in this time and age.

My sentiments as well.

Ive made a mistake on drifting away from this threads topic, which was game devs and their comments on the situation.
If they get fired thats on them, FAFO, they put their names and company in their profile, leave the profile public, then do this?
Hey, private companies can do as they please with the situation.
We were meant to be discussing that.


My apologies.

Imma dip before it becomes too heated and off topic.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

What ? No, celebrating the murder is only steps shy away from the actual murder.

If people don't care they can shut up or even just say they don't care, the people we're talking about obviously care just not in the same way, weird reasoning you got there.

Doesn't really matter if it's Charlie Kirk or not, if he was a debater or just a random, the only thing that matters here is what this type of behavior is fostering.

Sounds like the first amendment needs some alterting.

Thankfully in the new UK I can just report these things to the facebook police

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

As you say, death threats is a CRIME. It justifies the involvement of the FBI, Im shocked this hasn't happened before. We have moved the goalposts to the very border of what is acceptable in a civilized society right before a social outbreak.

As for grave dancing, I agree this belongs to the personal sphere. However, companies have a reputation to protect and this absolutely destroys it. They have the right to fire all those cunts or keep them in their payroll. It's their choice.

This is not an option for public positions like teachers and professors. They all MUST be fired. You can't have crazy fundamentalists brainswashing future generations. This is one of the core reasons why the West is rotten. It started in shools and academias and it needs to stop before it's too late.

 

[The_Mike]

Is 54 pages of politics enough yet? I vote for closing the thread and talking about games again. I thought that was the mod policy anyway?

I didn't know there could only be one thread active at a time on GAF.

Seems like a stupid new feature.

Oh wait. I just checked the front page. There's plenty of other threads.

Why don't you go read them?

 

[Dalbajobas]

the hypocrisy

 

[Trilobit]

I didn't know there could only be one thread active at a time on GAF.

Seems like a stupid new feature.

Oh wait. I just checked the front page. There's plenty of other threads.

Why don't you go read them?

I don't get people complaining either. EviLore sometimes allows exemptions for big enough topics temporarily and then closes them when the discussions have reached their limits. I expect this thread to also become locked when that time comes. I think it strikes a good balance and shows that the mods and EviLore aren't autistically dogmatic. It's still good that there's an overall ban on politics as they tend to deviate to mostly mudslinging and a poor atmosphere.

 

[cormack12]

I didn't know there could only be one thread active at a time on GAF.

Seems like a stupid new feature.

Oh wait. I just checked the front page. There's plenty of other threads.

Why don't you go read them?

Evilore right now

 

[Mr Moose]

Accountability for what?
Laughing/Celebrating and/or not caring that someone got killed?
You cant force people to care or like his views.
Punishing them for their views is only steps shy of exactly what happened to Kirk.

If they were/are inciting violence like the people saying "xyz is next" or things in that vain then yeah punish them cuz thats a crime.....and yes platforms should moderate that.

If they are doing a silly tiktok dance cuz they dont care about Kirk, doxxing them for that is weird to me, cuz doxxing is dangerous, dancing after someone is already dead doesnt exactly make them any deader.

You're an idiot.

 

[Gonzito]

You're an idiot.

There is a reason why i have that guy in my ignore list

 

[SkylineRKR]

I disagree with a lot of views he had, but how is he a fascist?

Fascism is about surpression of opposition, about forcing your views on the population. I think going in debate, and keeping it respectful, is quite the opposite.

 

[Tams]

As long as the operators make sure there's no false positives in this, I think this might actually be an OK initiative in this context. Generally, I'm not a huge fan of naming and shaming others, but this is different. These people are demons.

Their very first example, Rachel Gilmore is a false positive. From the evidence provided, while not the time to be posting concerns of right wing violence, is not celebrating Kirk's death.

FIdiot28138 replying to her is though.

The rest I looked at looked certain enough, some being utterly vile.

But having your first example be very questionable is not good.

 

[Gonzito]

I disagree with a lot of views he had, but how is he a fascist?

Fascism is about surpression of opposition, about forcing your views on the population. I think going in debate, and keeping it respectful, is quite the opposite.

Fascism is actually what the left does: when they don't like what you're saying, they insult you and shut down any form of communication. They are hypocrites who don't realize they're engaging in the same behavior they claim to oppose

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

They are hypocrites

It's not about hypocrisy, they know what they are doing. I mean their leaders, not the average person that just parrots what others say. It's taken from Goebbles's textbook and it's worked fine because the opposing parties adopted the same rationale. It's time to debunk their bullshit.

 

[calico]

I'm not american i don't know if a general call for violence or glorification of violent behavior are an offense in the US, if it's not the Supreme Court should evolve on the matter, as simple as that.

General advocacy of violence or glorification is protected speech unless it is intended to cause unlawful action which is imminent and likely.

People posting 'Kill x next' or 'Do x next' (where x is a named individual) after a high profile assassination are playing with fire however. It is likely to be considered solicitation, which is not protected.

 

[ReBurn]

Cancel culture on NeoGaf in action.

No, what you're seeing is equal consequences culture. It's equilibrium being restored. Apparently it hurts the feelings of people who were ok with people losing their jobs over things they said until it started happening to them.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Fascism is actually what the left does: ...

Fascism's role in the history of thought is that of a close relative, if not descendant of Marxism (which together with Socialism forms the entirety of our current understanding of the "left"). Mussolini himself came from Marxism over Syndicalism to Fascism, Gentile saw in it a higher synthesis of the Hegelian dialectic, Marxism a failed, lower class attempt at translating the core ideas of left Hegelianism into political action.

The idea that Fascism or National Socialism are part of the "right" spectrum of political thought is absurd. There is no horse shoe. There's only authoritarian monsters and everything else.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Legal migrant brown person speaking

I agree with most of what the man said based on his talking about it + thoroughly explaining himself for dummies like me. Some things I was not on board but after the way he articulated and the foundation he has as a Christian man, I agreed with him where he was coming from.

And to get shot as a sitting target is so powerful versus the weak who sit behind a keyboard. Normal people are shamed to say they love God or are not woke VERSUS letting this garbage get as far as it has.

 

[Gonzito]

Fascism's role in the history of thought is that of a close relative, if not descendant of Marxism (which together with Socialism forms the entirety of our current understanding of the "left"). Mussolini himself came from Marxism over Syndicalism to Fascism, Gentile saw in it a higher synthesis of the Hegelian dialectic, Marxism a failed, lower class attempt at translating the core ideas of left Hegelianism into political action.

The idea that Fascism or National Socialism are part of the "right" spectrum of political thought is absurd. There is no horse shoe. There's only authoritarian monsters and everything else.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The idea that Fascism or National Socialism are part of the "right" spectrum of political thought is absurd.

It's leftist propaganda and it worked even among the political right, which bought into this argument. This false belief needs to be confronted.

The leftist antisemitism comes from the same source as Hitler's, it has nothing to do with "free Palestine" or whatever other bullshit cause they pretend to defend. It's straight up antisemitism.

 

[Topher]

Cancel culture on NeoGaf in action.

I think we are a hell of a long way from folks wanting people to lose their jobs over a Harry Potter video game.

 

[Moriarty1889]

Reee has been having a complete and utter meltdown over weirdos like themselves
being held accountable for their vile hate filled comments over Charlie's passing. The screeching has reached epic proportions.

 

[CLW]

Nothing screams conservative more than having a furry trans partner and writing fascist slogans on shells

IF I had a $1 for every extreme right winger that had a trans lover into furry culture

 

[Clear]

Please consider that posting inflammatory statements online whilst identifying as an employee of company is straight up gross misconduct due to its impact on the business. It should result in severe disciplinary action, and if it doesn't it calls into question the political impartiality of the employer which again is a source of reputational damage.

On balance, it should invariably result in some sort of response. This is not a matter of activism, its just business, because any corporate employer will have clauses to prevent this sort of happening in their contracts.

That being said, online activists creating hit lists of their political enemies and then tying them back to whoever employs them is not the same thing.

I'm unsure if its better or worse than state-sponsored investigation, e.g, HCUA (McCarthyism), but its getting into the same sort of murky waters, and runs the risk of getting out of hand. Its easy to go with blacklisting for actions and speech, to suspicion of potential actions and speech based on general political affiliation...

Witch-hunts start when examination of deeds becomes examination of disposition and thought.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Fascism is actually what the left does: when they don't like what you're saying, they insult you and shut down any form of communication. They are hypocrites who don't realize they're engaging in the same behavior they claim to oppose

Yeah this is why abandoned left wing over here.

Its always the same; You start a discussion, and then left wing starts like "yeah but everyone who votes right is stupid by definition" and this is why in society people who vote right wing were mostly silent about it in the open. When right wing won in my country, people publicly yelled things like "Fucking radical country going to shit, stupid voters" which happened in my work too. While whenever left wing won in the past, nothing of the sort ever happened. Everyone just continued. Left can't take a loss.

In the USA the whole campaign for Hilary Clinton for example, was about taking personal potshots at Trump. The message was mostly like "don't vote for him". Kamala pretty much did the same, she had no actual program or ideology except for stressing you shouldn't vote for Reps.

 

[Madonis]

Fascism's role in the history of thought is that of a close relative, if not descendant of Marxism (which together with Socialism forms the entirety of our current understanding of the "left"). Mussolini himself came from Marxism over Syndicalism to Fascism, Gentile saw in it a higher synthesis of the Hegelian dialectic, Marxism a failed, lower class attempt at translating the core ideas of left Hegelianism into political action.

The idea that Fascism or National Socialism are part of the "right" spectrum of political thought is absurd. There is no horse shoe. There's only authoritarian monsters and everything else.

This is wrong on multiple levels.

First, fascist regimes have always suppressed and censored everyone on the left after gaining power. Therefore, even they know those groups are something different.

Second, fascist regimes have historically been allied with big business and private enterprise, including traditional conservatives, not with labor unions nor with worker movements.

Third, racial supremacy and the xenophobic element of fascism have a lot more in common with the racial and xenophobic elements that are present on the extreme right.

While authoritarian methods are not exclusive to fascism, the fact you have people calling for the adoption of such methods from the right-leaning side of politics is quite telling.

In the USA the whole campaign for Hilary Clinton for example, was about taking personal potshots at Trump. The message was mostly like "don't vote for him". Kamala pretty much did the same, she had no actual program or ideology except for stressing you shouldn't vote for Reps.

I didn't care for either of them as individuals, but you should realize this is false. They both had other proposals and programs. Just because you didn't want to read them doesn't mean they weren't present. Not to mention how "personal potshots" were also coming from Trump's side, rather than him being a poor little victim. It's all a very silly description you've come up with.

 

[Madonis]

Their very first example, Rachel Gilmore is a false positive. From the evidence provided, while not the time to be posting concerns of right wing violence, is not celebrating Kirk's death.

FIdiot28138 replying to her is though.

The rest I looked at looked certain enough, some being utterly vile.

But having your first example be very questionable is not good.

It simply means there's no real science behind this kind of thing. Just rushing to come up with as many names as possible, regardless of what each person actually did.