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[digimaster7]

What the fuck is Antifa? And why is she working for Antifa & Sucker Punch at the same time.

Non of this American bullshit makes sense lmao

Antifa is a far-left political movement originated in Germany with a growing member in the US.

Examining Extremism: Antifa | Examining Extremism | CSIS

The Transnational Threats Project’s Examining Extremism series provides an overview and assessment of Antifa—a decentralized movement of individuals whose ideological roots lie in various left-wing causes, such as communism, anarchism, and socialism.

www.csis.org

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I knew no matter whatever SP did most of you who were itching for an apology had already made up your minds. Even if they had made a statement day one....

 

[Bernardougf]

I'm not the one arguing that the comments of a fired employee are representative of the stance of a large corporation, though?

 

[Bernardougf]

I knew no matter whatever SP did most of you who were itching for an apology had already made up your minds. Even if they made a statement day one....

Well people are being really supportive of Jimmy Kimmel firing and the full pretty clear disclaimer of the company ... so I think being 100% pro active and honest and 100% clear in your message makes a big difference as usually does.

This half assed mea-culpa full of "I think" "kind of" and "sort of" one guy from SP gave, imho its in no way representative of what a real day 1 assessment of the situation and a real 100% clear reponse condemning the act would bring ...

 

[nial]

Prove me wrong, buddy.

 

[GymWolf]

Oh boy the purples opened a topic about the SP cunt being fired and they are PISSED

Sucker punch managed to anger both the right and the left

 

[Gonzito]

I'm sure they'll miss your pennies whilst they sit on their pile of money.

 

[Doomtrain]

She wasn't "fired." She was "held accountable."

Seriously though, this is an incredibly depressing study of human nature. Ten years, they pushed the idea that free speech was bad and people should be harshly punished for saying no-no words. Ten years, they called people who stood up for free speech Nazis. Ten years, they bent over backwards to explain how actually, it was good that everyone had to walk on eggshells or be utterly ruined over minor differences of opinion.

It happens to them ONCE, and they throw those ten years out the window without even acknowledging it.

And the real kicker? They'll hate it again tomorrow when the next innocent person they want to cancel rolls around. And all with zero self reflection.

Fuck, now I'm genuinely sad.

 

[StueyDuck]

No, I'm correct.

Sweet Baby Inc. gained "prominence" (as you say) during the first quarter of 2024, but people pointed out their involvement at the end of 2023 for Spider-Man 2, as you can see here.

Thread 'Sweet Baby Inc, the cancer behind Alan Wake 2, Spider-Man 2 and GoW: Ragnarök'

Oct 31, 2023

Before someone accuses me of equating "diversity and inclusion" with cancer, I am obviously referring to literal propaganda forcefully and tastelessly injected into art. Which is effectively murdering true diversity in art forms.
And if you ever thought every modern AAA feels written by exactly the same people, it's because they basically are.

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Spider-Man 2 was the 19th best-selling game of the year AND the 12th best-selling game on the PlayStation platform of 2024.

Sales have remained strong throughout the game's lifecycle. The sales would've dropped ass as soon as their involvement was announced, but that never happened.

Spider-Man 2
Circana
December - 5th
January - 10th
February - 13th
March - 19th
April - 20th
June - 13th
July - 10th
August - 9th
September -
October
November - 14th
December - 13th

There was also drama before people knew the SBI's involvement due to MJ's design and her missions.

Not only that, but Spider-Man 2 was ranked 20th for the best-selling for the first 5 months of this year.

do me a favor and look at that thread date, then look at the release dates of SM2 and GOW:R

you literally couldn't be more incorrect with your facts here.

in fact ill do the hard work for you... thread date was October 31st 2023

Spiderman 2 release was October 20th 2023, God of war Ragnarok launch was the 9th of November 2022...

so unless people had time machines, you are factually incorrect that people boycotted those games because of SBI

 

[StueyDuck]

Analytics? Seriously?
I did, read post #4,444. And again, 'many' is a BIG overstatement. You're still not able to explain how this is, in anyway, relevant within the stance of the parent company.
Sucker Punch issued a statement in which they condemned the comments by the fired employee, not sure what exactly are you expecting? Some kind of official PR by SIE? As stupid as the comment was, you surely realize that this is a huge reach, right?

Read above.

They're not being paid for their beliefs, they're being paid for their work. What an odd way to frame it.

Radical commentary about committing murder over public figures being okay on Sucker Punch games is a new one to me. Are you sure I'm the one playing with headcanons here?

Good general forum advice, I guess?

I mean I'll gladly wait till you can prove the contrary. Remember you are the one arguing that anyone elses but your own view is preposterous.

There's evidence that these people wanted someone dead, and no evidence besides a soft "we're sorry" SouthPark style apology to refute it.

If your grand slam argument is that you think so, then i guess your not winning me over, show some receipts.

 

[DForce]

do me a favor and look at that thread date, then look at the release dates of SM2 and GOW:R

you literally couldn't be more incorrect with your facts here.

in fact ill do the hard work for you... thread date was October 31st 2023

Spiderman 2 release was October 20th 2023, God of war Ragnarok launch was the 9th of November 2022...

so unless people had time machines, you are factually incorrect that people boycotted those games because of SBI

I don't need to because you don't get it.

I gave you sales data from November 2022 to May 2025. If what you said was true, then sales would've fell hard AFTER October 31st 2023 but it didn't. The game sold 6 million copies from November to April 2024. These games don't stop selling after launch, they continue. For most games, the majority of the sales are sold AFTER the first two weeks.

 

[StueyDuck]

I don't need to because you don't get it.

I gave you sales data from November 2022 to May 2025. If what you said was true, then sales would've fell hard AFTER October 31st 2023 but it didn't. The game sold 6 million copies from November to April 2024. These games don't stop selling after launch, they continue. For most games, the majority of the sales are sold AFTER the first two weeks.

It's like you don't understand how time works or understand what a boycott is.

 

[Ronin_7]

antifa is short for "anti-fascist". There is no "antifa" to work for. It's just a politically aligned group of people

Seems like a far left group, those individuals are sick beyond belief.

Why is Yotei voice actor part of extremists group? Seems like bullshit to me lmao

 

[Trilobit]

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[DenchDeckard]

Sony cant make a statement. They have a game to ship and they know if they do, its going to cause strikes etc internally at the studio.

Bunch of suits terrified over their bottom line. Same for all of em.

 

[Topher]

Seems like a far left group, those individuals are sick beyond belief.

Why is Yotei voice actor part of extremists group? Seems like bullshit to me lmao

I don't think being "anti-fascist" is that big of a deal in Washington state.

Sony cant make a statement. They have a game to ship and they know if they do, its going to cause strikes etc internally at the studio.

Bunch of suits terrified over their bottom line. Same for all of em.

They did make a statement thogh. It was just too late and lukewarm

 

[Mr Moose]

I don't think being "anti-fascist" is that big of a deal in Washington state.



They did make a statement thogh. It was just too late and lukewarm

I just checked, it's about the interview? It was done on the 15th.

 

[Topher]

I just checked, it's about the interview? It was done on the 15th.

They should not have waited for the interview to be published. No reason they could not have addressed it on twitter immediately.

 

[Mr Moose]

They should not have waited for the interview to be published. No reason they could not have addressed it on twitter immediately.

Sony and MS are being a bit quiet about it on social media. MS isn't even releasing anything soon, I don't think?
I thought it would take time for them to investigate and do some more firing but it's taking the piss now.

 

[Topher]

Sony and MS are being a bit quiet about it on social media. MS isn't even releasing anything soon, I don't think?
I thought it would take time for them to investigate and do some more firing but it's taking the piss now.

MS should have condemned the Indy video immediately as well. They are lucky GoY is getting all the attention right now

 

[Hookshot]

What have MS done? I've not seen a controversy about Indiana Jones.

 

[Kacho]

MS should have condemned the Indy video immediately as well. They are lucky GoY is getting all the attention right now

I suspect the next time Bethesda promotes a big new game, we'll see pushback on that stupid tweet they put out.

For MS we might see that with Outer Worlds 2… but interest in that game is nonexistent so who knows. That game seems destined to flop.

Edit: Bethesda hasn't tweeted since deleting the tweet on Monday. They are shook and laying low.

 

[Topher]

What have MS done? I've not seen a controversy about Indiana Jones.

Bethesda deletes Indiana Jones and the Great Circle "fascist" clip after accusations that it mocks Charlie Kirk

Bethesda's now-deleted X post appears to have been part of a wider social media push for the new Indiana Jones and the Great Circle DLC.

www.pcgamesn.com

 

[Hookshot]

Bethesda deletes Indiana Jones and the Great Circle "fascist" clip after accusations that it mocks Charlie Kirk

Bethesda's now-deleted X post appears to have been part of a wider social media push for the new Indiana Jones and the Great Circle DLC.

www.pcgamesn.com

I see not smart to have done in the current climate, even if Indy often fights literal Nazis.

 

[nial]

I mean I'll gladly wait till you can prove the contrary. Remember you are the one arguing that anyone elses but your own view is preposterous.

There's evidence that these people wanted someone dead, and no evidence besides a soft "we're sorry" SouthPark style apology to refute it.

If your grand slam argument is that you think so, then i guess your not winning me over, show some receipts.

Yes, there is evidence that four or five people, from an organization employing over 15K people, wanted Charlie Kirk dead.
Where is the evidence that the organization itself has radical views on anything? Because none of their actual, corporate decisions reflect any sort of radical leftist attitude. Heck, it's quite literally the opposite:

Report: Jim Ryan asks PlayStation staff to "respect differences of opinion" on abortion

He then went on to talk about his cats' birthdays and how he was thinking about getting a dog, because they "know their place" and "perform useful functions."

www.gamedeveloper.com

 

[geary]

They did make a statement thogh. It was just too late and lukewarm

In the day and age of social media, doing a interview for a non-mainstream media and waiting few days to be published, is a bit sus is at least that i can say.
They know very well what they were doing, trying to be a bit stealthy with the communication, but keeping the door open to have a comeback when someone ask if they said something.

This is like those politicians that lie you with smile on their face...They know it, you know it, everyone knows it that is only a façade.

 

[Knucklepux]

I have this hilarious image in my head of these game developers wanting to tweet something so bad about Charlie's memorial today in AZ. They played christian music and the place is packed.

These psychos are just tweaking wanting to talk shit. But who's gonna do it first??? Someone os gonna crack and Grummz and crew will catch it immediately lol

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I have this hilarious image in my head of these game developers wanting to tweet something so bad about Charlie's memorial today in AZ. They played christian music and the place is packed.

These psychos are just tweaking wanting to talk shit. But who's gonna do it first??? Someone os gonna crack and Grummz and crew will catch it immediately lol

That's how this world is right now. It's hard to articulate that, in terms of politicians, there are more conservative Christians republicans. And if you push for LGTBBQ and all the perverse things democrats have been shoving down our throats for years, how can you be considered Godly? I ain't not saint but I don't and will never stand for the values of the modern left.

 

[Knucklepux]

That's how this world is right now. It's hard to articulate that, in terms of politicians, there are more conservative Christians republicans. And if you push for LGTBBQ and all the perverse things democrats have been shoving down our throats for years, how can you be considered Godly? I ain't not saint but I don't and will never stand for the values of the modern left.

The harsh reality is that leftist tend to gravitate towards media and arts, while more conservative gravitate towards blue collar. Social media and the rise of short form content is of course populated with more leftist people at the helm. Which is why you see their voices the most. It amplifies them. So they created these echo chambers and dogmatic mindsets that they believe they're objectively correct. Compound that with schools heavily leaning towards virtue signaling leftist BS… it's no surprise that gaming and media is littered with these tards.

But things have escalated to a point beyond dumb TikTok's or Reels and gaming companies have grown more than ever and have more shares interest with investors, stock holders, etc… Now leftists are learning that they actually represent a minority voice (at least in these extremist views) but they can't choke that down because the greasy little basement dwellers have been building them up for so many years. It's exactly why they receed to places like Reddit, bluesky or resetera. They can't stand their ground or be challenged. They have to go back to their mutant alphabet army supporters.

There isn't even a right and a left anymore. It's more like "crazy fucking liberal retards and normal people"

 

[StueyDuck]

Yes, there is evidence that four or five people, from an organization employing over 15K people, wanted Charlie Kirk dead.
Where is the evidence that the organization itself has radical views on anything? Because none of their actual, corporate decisions reflect any sort of radical leftist attitude. Heck, it's quite literally the opposite:

Report: Jim Ryan asks PlayStation staff to "respect differences of opinion" on abortion

He then went on to talk about his cats' birthdays and how he was thinking about getting a dog, because they "know their place" and "perform useful functions."

www.gamedeveloper.com

oh and Jim Ryan is still the head and currently employed by in 2025 when their studios were actively championing murder and assassination?

 

[nial]

oh and Jim Ryan is still the head and currently employed by in 2025

If you want to argue that their current Japanese CEO would surely have a different view, sure...

when their studios were actively championing murder and assassination?

Never happened.

 

[Sticks]

Bethesda deletes Indiana Jones and the Great Circle "fascist" clip after accusations that it mocks Charlie Kirk

Bethesda's now-deleted X post appears to have been part of a wider social media push for the new Indiana Jones and the Great Circle DLC.

www.pcgamesn.com

You letting me know after I finished the dlc. I was gonna buy Indie again for PC but thats gonna be a no from me dawg.

 

[VGA-Games]

Oh boy the purples opened a topic about the SP cunt being fired and they are PISSED

Sucker punch managed to anger both the right and the left

Can you share a Link to that Thread?

I would love to see ResetEra to Explode

 

[Lightbreak]

Oh boy the purples opened a topic about the SP cunt being fired and they are PISSED

Sucker punch managed to anger both the right and the left

I just don't get how any political party managed to make so many people their puppets... its insane how they control people when they are the ones who should work for us

 

[JackHanma]

She wasn't "fired." She was "held accountable."

Seriously though, this is an incredibly depressing study of human nature. Ten years, they pushed the idea that free speech was bad and people should be harshly punished for saying no-no words. Ten years, they called people who stood up for free speech Nazis. Ten years, they bent over backwards to explain how actually, it was good that everyone had to walk on eggshells or be utterly ruined over minor differences of opinion.

It happens to them ONCE, and they throw those ten years out the window without even acknowledging it.

And the real kicker? They'll hate it again tomorrow when the next innocent person they want to cancel rolls around. And all with zero self reflection.

Fuck, now I'm genuinely sad.

And all this for a late night host that averaged under 130000 viewers.

 

[lordrand11]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

 

[Moneal]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

Why complain about a post? you didn't have to click on it. you know that right? Or is your post a look at me kinda post?

 

[laynelane]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

From:

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming.

To:

Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

It's rare to see someone so spectacularly lose the plot of their own comment all in one go.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

Good luck. Try that in a small town.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

Posting it in advance

 

[Topher]

Ewwww, politics and acknowledgment of said politics in gaming. Gross. Delete this post and move on with your life, this kind of publicity is stupid and you should be ashamed to post it.

Post real politics, like when America and Russia go to war instead of this dredgery shit.

Before y'all put words in my mouth. I'm saying the dude didn't deserve to die, but his platform and he as a person was stupid. Just like you do everyone else that tries to rustle their nose in politics. It's a tit-for-tat game where no one wins and anyone that believes they do is gonna have the worst, no lube pinning. Also be ready for the NRA to be censored and your guns to be taken.

 

[DForce]

People are already accusing Sony of faking the pre-order chart. lol

 

[Topher]

People are already accusing Sony of faking the pre-order chart. lol

Why wouldn't it be at the top of the preorders? The backlash some of us are giving the dev isn't going to make any difference in sales for the game.

 

[Justin9mm]

On one hand being from the UK and being an outsider looking in. Its hard to feel sorry for the guy when he said shit like this



Practice what the preach and all that, but on the other hand when did social media become open for people directly linked to a businesses to say shit like this?

What you fail to understand is the American Culture, I lived in the UK for several years so I understand yours. You listen to what he says and in your mind you relate it to your country, because that's all you know. Of course in UK and where I'm from Australia, this would not work because our countries have a completely different culture. The problem is people like yourself having the Dunning-Kruger effect. If you don't know what that is, look it up. Social media is a cancer because of this, filled with baseless opinions and ideology that is essentially made up.

 

[Topher]

What you fail to understand is the American Culture, I lived in the UK for several years so I understand yours. You listen to what he says and in your mind you relate it to your country, because that's all you know. Of course in UK and where I'm from Australia, this would not work because our countries have a completely different culture. The problem is people like yourself having the Dunning-Kruger effect. If you don't know what that is, look it up. Social media is a cancer because of this, filled with baseless opinions and ideology that is essentially made up.

"Dunning-Kruger effect"
"The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with low competence in a particular area overestimate their own abilities because their lack of knowledge prevents them from recognizing their own incompetence. "

Oh.....so that's what that's called

 

[Guilty_AI]

On one hand being from the UK and being an outsider looking in. Its hard to feel sorry for the guy when he said shit like this



Practice what the preach and all that, but on the other hand when did social media become open for people directly linked to a businesses to say shit like this?

Dont see anything wrong with that argument even with what happened. We do that for cars, airplanes, and a myriad of tools. I dont see people who were involved in transit accidents demanding that cars be banned, because we all subconsciously understand the utility of having them surparses the death toll it brings with it at the end of the day.

And not like gun control does much to stop gun violence anyway. BR has super strict gun laws and theres still a high rate of gun violence, much higher than the US i believe.

 

[calico]

Plenty of people who are anti-fascist have nothing to do with Antifa, and plenty of people associating with Antifa are not anti-fascist. The Berlin Wall also identified as Antifa, and just like with the Antifa groups, it was not really about opposing fascism but about protecting socialism and far left ideals by labelling anyone opposing them a fascist.

The idea is that if you refer to yourselves as Anti-x then anyone opposing you for any reason must by definition be x. It is a false conclusion, because your self-naming may be dishonest to begin with -as it is in the case of Antifa- and because the people opposing you may be doing so for what you actually are rather than because of what you proclaim to be. The KKK could have identified themselves as Antira but it would not make it so.

 

[GymWolf]

Can you share a Link to that Thread?

I would love to see ResetEra to Explode

I don't think i can, just search resetera sucker punch for the past week.