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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Grats, you are Bran.
SuperStiltzkin
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They needed Miguel Sapochnik for this episode. I mean, they need him for every episode.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
If he's not doing Season 8 I'll riot.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
lol just ribbing you dude.
Still though I want Bran to be anything, anywhere. Like Cersi sips some wine from a glass and puts it down *bam* the table has eyes.
ChimpBottle
Member
YOU'RE AN INANIMATE FUCKING OBJECT
I think it's just a reflection / shadow of someone on the crew filming.
She better be.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
He needs to do all of S8.
Seeing that makes the theory even dumber. It looks like a scooby doo peephole painting effect if you try to look at it as an eye opening.
MoonsaultSlayer
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We don't see Jon with Ghost anymore because since his "rebirth", we've had knowledge of his dragon blood and the showrunners don't want to take away from that.
It is a bummer that the symbolism around him is a bit muddy because of all this even if his mother was still a Stark.
The Artisan
Member
lmao, man that is some rant you went on there
I don't know man, but I love it. I need her to strut in like that right before she fucks up these dumbasses. This why we need a through and through cut throat like Arya on the team. While idiots like Tyrion (Dany+Jon) can go romanticise about this innocent and picture perfect war they want to wage, Arya can go and actually get real shit done. God I wish Hot Pie never showed up. Cersei would be dead by now, and we wouldn't be suffering from the stupidity that has become Arya+Sansa. Fuck you Hot Pie.
cool thanks cool avatar too
7he Talon
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It's a couple of days old, but I just read the NYT interview with this weeks director. He talks about Jon and Dany relationship and the faster-then-light travelling ravens.
Some pretty interesting insights.
Some pretty interesting insights.
He's still in Winterfell, so probably not unless shit goes down with Littlefinger and he bites off a hand or something.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Pagusas
Elden Member
What if Little Finger kills Ghost?
Shin K Dash
Member
I love this gift sooo much.
theignoramus
Member
Ive rewatched Ep 6 like 4 times now and while I get the numerous complaints, apart from the Arya/Sansa interactions, I enjoyed mostly everything else.
I just cant get hung up on the speed of the flight of the raven or how "contrived" it is for the dragons to show up when that Frozen Lake sequence is just about the hardest sequence of TV Ive seen since Battle of the Bastards.
I knew exactly what was going to happen but everytime I watch that battle, I still feel like everyone is about to die, it's phenomenally well shot and edited.
I just cant get hung up on the speed of the flight of the raven or how "contrived" it is for the dragons to show up when that Frozen Lake sequence is just about the hardest sequence of TV Ive seen since Battle of the Bastards.
I knew exactly what was going to happen but everytime I watch that battle, I still feel like everyone is about to die, it's phenomenally well shot and edited.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Same, complained about some of things the first time I watched it.
Watched again and appreciated a lot of the episode.
Man I'm glad Beric's still around, best voice in the show.
Cersie Gandolfini is going to fuck their stupid shit up, and they would 100% deserve it.
Dragonstone:
Dany: All my enemies are in one spot at the Red Keep. Why can't we just end this shit right now?
Tyrion/Jon: We can't do that, no!
King's Landing:
Qyburn: My grace, all your enemies will be in one spot together.
Cersei: Is this the button I press to bring the house down on them?!
Just fucking have Grey Worm spear her, coordinate with Drogon to do one of his classic drop next to mommy moves, and close out this war.
Pretty much all of season 6, Arya was telling them information, she kept failing in her quests, kept getting her ass handed to her. Then she gets an assassin on her, and the result is off screen. Then she has a completely confusing conversation with Jaqen which doesn't make sense considering how strict he has been on defining when someone is no one and ever since that point there's been tons of inconsistencies. Starting off with her walking perfectly normal when leaving the house of faces when she was badly injured. Her demeanour also changed completely from that point on.
Like Nymeria not recognizing her at first or seeming confused, her conversation with the lannister soldiers regarding King's Landing responding "it's not so bad, is it?" despite being there before. the entire hot pie conversation, the mention of Jon elicits little emotion, misstated events, doesn't mention who is left on her list (obvious misdirect as the waif doesn't know all the names on the list), her abilities suddenly becoming god tier (she never trained with a dagger) when she was merely ok. The one thing that also threw me off was the conversation with the winterfell guards, when she asked who was lady stark, like she didn't know the entire hierarchy of the Stark family, just the most immediate names. Because Arya would know that the only person that could be lady stark is Sansa, but to someone imitating her it could not be immediately clear. The only other starks left outside of sansa is bran, rickon (unaware of death) and benjen. the waif would not know all details, just enough to get by. In terms of a potential mates, Bran was crippled, rickon was far too young and benjen took the black. You may think she was playing with the guards but it came across as oblivious.
So far the reference to luwin and rodrik and recognizing hot pie are the only things going in the favor of not waif, but this information was potentially told through the game of faces. They were going into a lot of detail in that game in the glimpses we had.
A big thing is under the many faced God, you cannot kill someone that you want to kill, only be asked of it. (death not hers to take) This supports how Arya is killing the people on her list. She wished it, waif wouldn't care for it. But doing it is also following in her footsteps.
The theory can still be wrong, but I'm starting to believe it's far more likely to be real than not. It also falls in line with the potential for the big WTF in the final part of the series. There's just way too many subtle hints and inconsistencies.
I'm convinced you're trolling now DopeyFish.
It'd definitely give people a lot to talk about during the break. So much for the tolerant Targaryans.
It'd definitely give people a lot to talk about during the break. So much for the tolerant Targaryans.
My favorite fan theory, aside from Bran warging into longclaw this past episode, was the idea that there happened to be someone who looked exactly like Arya, except her hair was different who she was supposed to be mimicking. It's such a weirdly specific theory that was only made for that one scene because of a lack of consistency.
Edit: Yours is good too
Lol they seriously would have that kind of sentiment.
Arya may not be the waif, but she is certainly a waif. Check. Mate.
Vincent Alexander
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I almost hope this theory is right just because of how bad Arya has been since this leaving Jaqen. As you said, her demeanor and everything is completely different. How she took out Frey was kind of meh too...But how she took out his men this season opener was fantastic.
I re-watched Arya's final scene with Jaqen one more time, and I love it even more this 2nd time around. I like how Arya looks teary-eyed, as if she is genuinely hurt that Jaqen would try to have her killed. Or maybe from the pain? Or both. I've also never truly thought about what anything meant, but this time re-watching I think the point of him telling her she is no one, her saying I'm Arya, and him smiling, is because he recognizes that no matter what she says she is still "no one." She has lost herself, and though she might try to stay Arya Stark, that part of her is no more and she is truly "no one." Jaqen recognizes this, so no matter what she tries to tell herself...he is happy.
Goddamnit. You have all the power.
Vincent Alexander
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Avatar change to Zelda with Waif's face photoshopped on!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
How would Waif know what Ned looked like? lol
It's a crap theory from top to bottom. The waif is 100% dead.
i think it would be less the waif's motivation but more the motivation of the many faced god.
also not sure how bran would play in this theory, but bran also gets his powers through the many faced god
it was a shite statue, she had a good chance of being right on the statement
None of this sounds right.
The many faced god doesn't exist. There is only the Lord of Light.
Done! If the waif comes back, it's her + Zelda.
Edit: even if she isn't Arya.
and people think i'm crazy
Vincent Alexander
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When Waif tells Jaqen that Arya is not ready, Jaqen states "Maybe she is. Maybe she is not." And Waif replies: "And if she's not?"
Jaqen: "It is all the same to the many-faced god."
Certainly explains why he doesn't give a shit about Arya mopping up the Waif. It is all the same to the many-faced god, right?
Jaqen: "It is all the same to the many-faced god."
Certainly explains why he doesn't give a shit about Arya mopping up the Waif. It is all the same to the many-faced god, right?
Bazinga!
Or who Hot Pie was, or Nymeria's name, or Maester Lewin, or Sir Roderick, or why she was upset when she heard Littlefinger was at Winterfell, or how she knew Brienne beat the Hound, or...
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
What is Bran is Warged into the Ayra mask that Waif is wearing trapping her inside, forcing Waif to become Ayra by implanting Ayra's memories in Waif....
Zok310
Banned
Dany don't learn from her mistakes, if she had both her and the 3 dragon would have had on armor after they encountered Bronn a few episodes back.
To be fair, that's a pretty gentle bet. She kinda looks like Zelda already.
all of them can be learned through the game of faces
She should've just listened to Olenna. Tyrion is the reason she's losing right now.
Vincent Alexander
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You know...the more I watch these scenes, the less crazy it seems that the Waif is Arya. I don't think she is, but I can understand how people could conjecture. I think it falls apart MOSTLY because it is fucking stupid, and GRRM is a better writer than that. I don't think Waif has any kind of motivation or reasoning that would make it compelling or interesting. It would a pointless twist that adds absolutely nothing to the story, and would actually retroactively hurt the last few seasons. The Sixth Sense is how you do a twist that retroactively adds shit. The Sixth Sense spoiler:
Bruce Willis is a ghost.