He really cares about her, and that moment they had when she made him her hand, is still one of the most touching moments in the show for me. But buddy is a liability fighting against his family. Love you bro, but you need to recuse yourself until Cersei is dealt with.
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He really cares about her, and that moment they had when she made him her hand, is still one of the most touching moments in the show for me. But buddy is a liability fighting against his family. Love you bro, but you need to recuse yourself until Cersei is dealt with.
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Lol you think it's just GAF? The whole fandom is going crazy trying to make sense of it all.
Vincent Alexander
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I'm gonna miss you all after Sunday's discussion dies down. Then we wait until 2019.
That's what leads me to believe
George has one more card up his sleeve. Cersei had this speech when Tyrion sent off Marcella in s2, wanting Tyrion to "love someone, to truly love someone... Before I take her from you". Which everyone thought was meant in regards to Shea, but I can see this ultimately being about Daenerys. It would break Tyrion to have Dany killed, and Cersei is the type to put a knife in her back at the peak of the WW conflict
No, he's right. I'm expecting something similar from her, Cersei's basically come out and said that's the whole reason she's even open to this thing.
Imperfected
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I feel like Cersei trying to kill Dany would just be a warm-up.
I'm still on that, "Cersei betrays all of humanity" kick.
I'm still on that, "Cersei betrays all of humanity" kick.
shinra-bansho
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Does Tyrion actually want to kill his siblings? Surely not Jaime?
Dany's endgoal will be Cersei's death though?
Dany's endgoal will be Cersei's death though?
Scofield94941
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After watching the episode I have a theory about Arya.
Dunno if it has been said but it seemed to me she killed petyr baelish and brianne. The letter from kings landing was made by arya, arya killed brianne to gain access to cersei. Watch the scene with baelish, they kind have a still shot of his face and it looks off. Also, he kind of asks questions he would already know. The end scene when she is talking to sansa, she states she can be anyone, hinting at this. I think brianne stabs cersei at the meeting, then arya takes off the mask to show her. Anyone see this? The episode consisted of petyr, then brianne then arya. Never all of them together
broncobuster
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Oh, right. Drogon probably burned him to death.
No. His talk with Jamie shows that he wants to resolve it peacefully and he's trying to figure out how.
soundscream
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Go home you're drunk.
Atomic Odin
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Atomic Odin
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He is a fool for thinking so. *ramseynohappyendings.gif*
It's a shit plan for Dany, but it's the best bet the people of Westeros have of surviving. They'll need every sword arm they can get up North to fight that army, that includes both Dany and Cersei's forces.
Crossing Eden
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This is MGSV evil AI simulation theory levels of ridiculous.
Ravengram PSA from the Maester council: Small folk and lords of Westeros, do not abuse the milk of the poppy.
Have you guys discussed Robson and Jerome? Thought this was funny to see bronn like this.
https://youtu.be/8fgUY-kXlBA
https://youtu.be/8fgUY-kXlBA
Cersei's dress in that preview... goddamn.
Dany isn't gonna die at the hand of Cersei. Dany and Jon have plot armors that prevents them from dying until the very last fight in the show against the white walkers, and even then it's unlikely.
BigJonsson
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DarkJediKnight
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6'3 Arya would be a tough sell.
ScottSullivan
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ah gotcha thanks for the explanation, must not have paid close enough attention heh
Imperfected
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My theory for Cersei's final play:
Cersei hears them out about the dead men beyond the Wall and agrees to help, purely to have an excuse to march her armies North without being met at the Neck and stymied. As soon as she's got them in position to do maximum damage, she betrays the Northmen.
Then, she marches on the Wall.
Why? Well, it's fairly simple: she knows Jon will try desperately to defend the Wall. This is to her advantage because the Wall is almost entirely indefensible from the south; there are a dozen undefended castles he would have to spread his forces between, and none of them have any fortifications against southern attack whatsoever. He would have to spread his forces thin, put their backs to a literal wall, and fight without any defenses.
What's worse, every man she kills--and every man she loses--will just be fed into the Night King's army, which is more of a threat to the Northmen and their allies (Daenerys) than to Cersei herself.
It's horrible, it's mad, it's the best way to doom all of humanity... and it's also the most cut-throat way to destroy her enemies, which is all she really cares about anymore.
Cersei hears them out about the dead men beyond the Wall and agrees to help, purely to have an excuse to march her armies North without being met at the Neck and stymied. As soon as she's got them in position to do maximum damage, she betrays the Northmen.
Then, she marches on the Wall.
Why? Well, it's fairly simple: she knows Jon will try desperately to defend the Wall. This is to her advantage because the Wall is almost entirely indefensible from the south; there are a dozen undefended castles he would have to spread his forces between, and none of them have any fortifications against southern attack whatsoever. He would have to spread his forces thin, put their backs to a literal wall, and fight without any defenses.
What's worse, every man she kills--and every man she loses--will just be fed into the Night King's army, which is more of a threat to the Northmen and their allies (Daenerys) than to Cersei herself.
It's horrible, it's mad, it's the best way to doom all of humanity... and it's also the most cut-throat way to destroy her enemies, which is all she really cares about anymore.
matrix-cat
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The Faceless Men's Mission Impossible 2 masks magically turn the wearer into a completely different person. Arya became Walder Frey, Jaqen H'Gar was the Waif (or vice versa, I don't remember this shit); you slap on one of those masks and your entire body changes.
I hate how the Faceless Men's magic ended up being those stupid Mission Impossible masks. I liked it better when Jaqen just turned away and then back.
Imperfected
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That was just theatrics on his part, like when Batman dives behind an AC unit to make Commissioner Gordon think he disappeared.
FINALLY GOT TO WATCH THE EPISODE
UNDEAD DRAGON HYPE
DANY X JON HYPE
SEASON FINALE PREVIEW HYPE
without reading the countless pages since the episode aired, what's this threads consensus on the episode and the developments?
Arya-Sansa plot is fucking stupid though.
UNDEAD DRAGON HYPE
DANY X JON HYPE
SEASON FINALE PREVIEW HYPE
without reading the countless pages since the episode aired, what's this threads consensus on the episode and the developments?
Arya-Sansa plot is fucking stupid though.
Pankratous
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Dubbedinenglish
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If Ayra steals the face of a raven, can she fly?
Imperfected
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The simple answer is, "Faceless Men can't take the faces of animals, because the one qualifier that exists in their title is 'Men'."
Alot of tears over D&D not showing time in context.
How can they walk for 3 days and someone run back in 1 day. How!!?! he'd have to run 3 times faster than they walked!!
I really enjoyed the episode, but generally I do ignore alot of plot holes in most things.
Dany was so close to just jumping on Jon that moment he called her his queen. SO CLOSE.
People complain about that every episode, it gets tiring. I don't mind it. More action and plot development than boring travel smalltalk.
People complain about that every episode, it gets tiring. I don't mind it. More action and plot development than boring travel smalltalk.
Dubbedinenglish
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What about a wight tho
Imperfected
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Do you mean, "Can Arya steal the face of a Wight?"
Probably not, due to the fact Wights don't have individual identities. There's also the fact the Many-Faced-God is a god of death, so he probably doesn't truck with zombie impersonation.
shinra-bansho
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Saved for season finale.
"Yes! Yes! Break my wheel with your Longclaw. Show me that Winter is Coming. Let me sit on your Iron Throne. Your direwolf is the biggest. Bend that knee. Oh my god, bend that knee! Dracarys!"
matrix-cat
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If she wore the Night King's face, would she inherit his throwing arm?
Atomic Odin
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Imperfected
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If she could steal a wight's face, she could trick the Wight Stalkers to take her straight to Cersei, then pop free, assassinate her, and run off zombie-giggling into the crowds of King's Landing.
The perfect crime.
The perfect crime.