Man and to think we all would be fine with the ending of the episode if they had not shot Tyrion pulling a weird LF pose. Maybe have him talk to Varys about the situation instead? It wasn't like Varys had been used much so you could have done that. If anything, I'm shocked the editor thought that shot was fine and let it pass. Maybe have Jorah there and have Tyrion elsewhere looking forlorn somewhere else idk.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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But at the end of the day, that isn't something he can guarantee to Cersei. Cersei strolled up there with her whole, "I'm going to help you guys, so just remember after everything, I did this with no guarantees of any kind from any of you!" So if Tyrion made a promise, it is a secret promise made behind Dany and Jon's backs, and Cersei concealed the deal.
If true, Tyrion needs to be booted. Secret deals that are publicly and intentionally kept hidden, makes him very dangerous. Cersei made a public spectacle of their being no assurances given to her, and that she was supporting them because she wanted to do the right thing.
Tyrion: "Hey Dany and Jon by the way, there totally was assurances and deals made *wink*"
MagicWithEarvin
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Something's been bugging me... why did the 3ER make it such a big deal that Jon "had to know" his lineage, especially given that he has seen the impending doom headed their way? So what if Jon/Aegon's claim to the throne is legit? That really doesn't matter at this point, given what he has seen.
3ER/Bran: "Oh, hey Jon, btw - your name really isn't Jon. It's Aegon Targaryen, your father was Rhaegar and your mother was Lyanna Stark. You aren't a bastard, so your claim to the throne is legit, yo!"
*mic drop*
3ER/Bran: "Oh, hey Jon, btw - your name really isn't Jon. It's Aegon Targaryen, your father was Rhaegar and your mother was Lyanna Stark. You aren't a bastard, so your claim to the throne is legit, yo!"
*mic drop*
Cornballer
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Huge numbers for last night and this season of GoT:
- EW: Game of Thrones finale is the most-watched episode ever
- EW: Game of Thrones finale is the most-watched episode ever
- NY Mag: Game of Thrones Season Seven Smashes Yet Another Record for HBO
Crossing Eden
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Gotta ride that dragon son.
Yeah, the lone snag in the episode. Lol it was so stupid. There had to have been better ideas than that!
I also wish my girl Melisandre was in the season more
The idea behind the scene is pretty sound. Theon's been through so goddamned much that beating the fuck out of him isn't really going to work anymore if he's determined.
Actually ending it on the comical note that he can't feel getting kneed in the dick three fucking times, though... yeah that sucked.
What bugged me more is that he made it such a big deal that Jon had to know it BEFORE even knowing Jon wasn't a bastard, lol.
Sleeping Lesson
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Why would Tyrion make any effort to uphold his side of any deal when Cersei doesn't? I'm not down with the Tyrion Treason theories.
LegendofLex
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Theon is so rock bottom at this point that it's going to take some painfully awful character moments to get him into the position where he can do something even resembling heroic
It makes no logical sense. With Cersei publicly declaring that no deals were made to get her to pledge her support, that puts Tyrion into a really weird spot trying to explain how he actully did trade the future of the crown away.
Seductivpancakes
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Especially since his actions have been 100 percent honest and had the best intentions in mind so far in the entire series.
Only fault I can think of is killing Shae?
I absolutely loved it.
I've been waiting like five seasons for this motherfucker's redemption arc to really kick in.
He didn't even know Jon was legitimate when he was going on about needing to speak to Jon and being the only one who knows the truth. He just thought he was a bastard cousin instead of bastard brother
Someone else wrote that maybe Tyrion promised Cersei that he would make sure that her unborn child would succeed Dany in case of her death in exchange for Cersei's support in the war. So that's why he looked so concerned over Dany and Jon potentially making a baby and thus an actual successor to Dany.
Sounds plausible to me.
Sounds plausible to me.
Seductivpancakes
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Him rescuing Sansa should have been it but nope lol. Euron makes him pee his pants.
Crazy numbers for a premium channel. 12 million watching the Live HBO broadcast is insane. That is a hit even on broadcast television nowadays. I imagine Go/Now was slammed so it was hard to watch, but maybe I'm wrong, I watched it on the cable channel to avoid any buffering.
RustyNails
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Why would Dany agree to bring up the usurper's kid, when he/she might grow up and take the crown?
Also does Tyrion know about incest and the kids' real father being Jaime?
Everyone was super hyped about the love boat
I was getting some issues with HBO Now yesterday, had to refresh the page after it froze a few times. Super annoying.
If the reason Bran wants Jon to know is so that he can ride a dragon, it wouldn't matter if he's a bastard or not.
RoninChaos
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I wouldn't be surprised is Cersei sent her army in after the north and the dragon army gets rocked by the white walkers. From there I could see Cersei being the final boss.
Yes he does. I think he brought it up in his cell
Anyways Cersei flat out said she won't work with Tyrion in her confrontation with Jaime after that pregnancy scene
RustyNails
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Go was flawless for me, like for every single live episode.
hydrophilic attack
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imagine where tumblr could take this typo
The worldwide numbers have to be insane for this show. Basically everyone I know in Germany and Turkey under the age of 25 or so is watching the show. Every message board I know, even if it is a football site, is filled with discussions about the episode right after the airing. It really is a worldwide phenomenon.
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Seductivpancakes
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I know we've had some weird time jumps this season, but some how I doubt next season will last 9 months in the show's time for her to give birth.
Night King wants for no baby.
RustyNails
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I can bet you that people in India are even more crazy than Germany fans. Its a religion. FB, messageboards and forums are to the brim.
She had it coming tho, testified against him AND fucked his dad.
I don't see how they can do much of a time jump.
The undead just walked through the wall.
I think we can all agree that whatever deal Tyrion made, it involved Cersei's (alleged) child. Which I personally think she doesn't even have, but whatever.
It's possible he simply promised safety for the child, but then the successor talk and Tyrion's weird behavior towards the Jon/Dany hookup doesn't make sense. It also doesn't make sense why they would conceal that info from the viewer when it isn't very shocking.
Putting aside "logic", the only thing that fits all the scenes/acting we've been given is that Tyrion made a secret promise that somehow involves Cersei's kid in the line of succession. Now maybe Cersei also lied and told Tyrion she knew it'd be a boy, in which case Tyrion promised her a marriage, or maybe it's just a straight "adopt" this kid and it'll be next in line.
At this point I doubt Tyrion cares whether it gets him thrown out or killed. Or, to put it better, he cared more about getting a deal done at the moment. Even if Dany rejects his terms once she learns of them, she can reject them AFTER the undead are done.
Why would Tyrion trust Cersei? Because caring for her children is the only consistency Cersei has shown. What he doesn't know, and why she betrays him, is that she doesn't actually have a kid.
So, yeah.
It's possible he simply promised safety for the child, but then the successor talk and Tyrion's weird behavior towards the Jon/Dany hookup doesn't make sense. It also doesn't make sense why they would conceal that info from the viewer when it isn't very shocking.
Putting aside "logic", the only thing that fits all the scenes/acting we've been given is that Tyrion made a secret promise that somehow involves Cersei's kid in the line of succession. Now maybe Cersei also lied and told Tyrion she knew it'd be a boy, in which case Tyrion promised her a marriage, or maybe it's just a straight "adopt" this kid and it'll be next in line.
At this point I doubt Tyrion cares whether it gets him thrown out or killed. Or, to put it better, he cared more about getting a deal done at the moment. Even if Dany rejects his terms once she learns of them, she can reject them AFTER the undead are done.
Why would Tyrion trust Cersei? Because caring for her children is the only consistency Cersei has shown. What he doesn't know, and why she betrays him, is that she doesn't actually have a kid.
So, yeah.
Netherscourge
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Yeah and they don't need to sleep, eat, rape, pillage or anything. Honestly not sure how this fight against them is going to last more than an episode now that the wall is gone. Can't have any kind of drawn out siege or strategy
Seductivpancakes
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Yep that's really all I can think of, but it has been seven seasons so I might be forgetting something but really Tyrion is a good dude through and through.
Exactly. I doubt Cersei's gonna be able to deliver a baby next season, but I'm also expecting her to die. Maybe she'll survival and be imprisoned in a convent and Dany will allow the baby to be born.
I'm almost certain that time will jump. There's absolutely no way the Night King gets defeated in a few weeks or a month show time.
Obliterator
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Straight up unbelievable numbers almost for a premium subscription channel. Makes sense why HBO is doing everything they can to get a spin off prepped for when this series ends.
Season 8 ratings will be insane
Seductivpancakes
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He likes babies though:
haha yeah. Maybe he'll marry Cersei, and turn her baby into the Night Prince.
RustyNails
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Also Samwell has turned out to be my lowkey favorite character in GoT. I think the actor does a terrific job of capturing the innocence, bravery and the good nature of Samwell Tarly. My dude ventures to the north, saves a wildling, adopts her incest baby as his own, vanquishes a white walker, figures out where Dragonglass is stashed, saves Jorah Fedora from greyscale suicide, and returns to Winterfell to be Jon's best bro, wildling and incest baby intact.
I will legit cry bucket of tears if anything happens to him. And that's the funny thing, so much good and righteousness doesnt live in GoTverse for so long.
I will legit cry bucket of tears if anything happens to him. And that's the funny thing, so much good and righteousness doesnt live in GoTverse for so long.
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Is there a gif of that double take LF made when he heard his name instead of Arya's? If not I'll make it myself.
I saw some on Twitter but I wasn't able to get the link since it's classified as a video, I think. His blinking there is classic, dude was so shook.
He likes babies though:
Why does he like babies anyway, are they not Zombies like the rest or do they turn into his little commander dudes?
DarkJediKnight
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What bothered me about the Rhaegar reveal is how fast it happened.
There was no room to breathe.
Hi I'm Sam Jon is a true targariyan. Blah blah.
They spent too much time on Theon who no one cares about at this point than one of the bigger reveals in the show.
There was no room to breathe.
Hi I'm Sam Jon is a true targariyan. Blah blah.
They spent too much time on Theon who no one cares about at this point than one of the bigger reveals in the show.
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If it was planned how would Cersei know they would show them something like a zombie. Him freaking out and leaving doesn't make sense without there being something fucked up there. So either Cersei is lying or the show tried too hard this time to make it seme like Cersei is such a mastermind.
Obliterator
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And that's live viewers. The estimate is across all forms it hits 30 million an episode this season which is fucking crazy.
Factor in pirating in all of the places HBO isn't even available and you are probably talking easily 50+ million people watching GOT regularly