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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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YesNOnoNOYes
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im with you
i didnt think 'rape' when the door was closed. more like violent torture. where did rape come from suddenly?
awwwww :<
he's the true baratheon heir that could challenge cersei's reign...
....no? :<
Yes. It's the Stark theme mixed with Dany's theme.
It was actually in the episode before the credits, when they proclaimed Jon the King of the North.
Full song is here. The melody begins at 2:00.
YesNOnoNOYes
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didnt lilfinger / varys know of his bobby b's lineage though
maybe lil finger / the spider can worm it into their side's advantage
*wishful thinking*????
Of course he will.
Literally every other major character that isn't dead has come back this season. Gendry is, as far as the audience is concerned, the rightful holder of the throne. There must be something planned.
I'm thinking the red woman runs into him and something something.
Stannis had that 'advantage'.
lineage is all but irrelevant now. It's entirely about power now. (see: houses of the north refusing the call of house Stark, Kartstarks and Umbers even siding with house Bolton))
Monocle
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Why even discuss the show if you can wave away all logic and make up your own standards because "it's a show"?
I don't have any guesses as to the exact details, but I do think Jaime will kill Cersei just like he did the mad king and for the same reason of madness. Then I think he will kill himself.
Also, Sam has to be in that library to discover an ancient prophecy right?
MomoPufflet
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So is Bran essentially the only person in the entire world that knows who Jon really is? Besides Max Von Treeman?
YesNOnoNOYes
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ooooh yes, melisandre ! and she's on her way south, too! interesting :>
yeah, but im thinking maybe someone in ~power~ can use him as their pawn???
Dirtyshubb
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I think its clear that rape was the main goal, I mean the mountain has already been established as a rapist and I can't see him mending her broken bones etc from torture and the way cersai spoke was along the lines of 'here is your new play thing to have your fun with'
Plus him taking his helmet off was the equivalent of him undressing to get down to business.
someone in ~power~ doesn't need some "maybe-maybe-not-the-bastard of the king we had 2 kings and a queen ago", i think.
not a book reader, but does that commenter have a point?
oh, ok. .... ewwww.
Okay, pack up guys. Close the thread, we're done here.
Because I think it's ridiculous to tell someone, "you're cheering on a terrorist" almost as if this isn't a show and almost like we don't routinely cheer on horrible people. If we did this then all discussion would just boil down to, "you like The Mountain? Well, that means you're cheering on a rapist!.
I'm all for discussion every inch of this show, like anyone who has been following the GoT thread this season, but I find it a bit insulting to almost paint someone as a terrorist sympathizer because they like Cersei.
This reeks of people actually thinking thinking someone is a real life sociopath or a lesser human being in real life because they liked Walter White at the end of the show.
If that terrorist comment was purely in jest than I apologize but I've seen this same line of thinking in Breaking Bad discussions and I'd hate for people to bring it here.
RoninChaos
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And that's some CW level drama. That's not what happens. Sansa knows who little finger is and what he wants. Jon being named king of the north means that little finger may not have the births support when he pushes for the crown. Sansa realized that Jon is a threat to what little finger wants. That's why she looks the way she does.
Monocle
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Oh, alright. I see where you're coming from and I agree. Cheering on fictional villains doesn't make an audience member a fan of real life tyrants or their atrocities.
Why does he take his helmet and armor off then when he's perfectly capable to hurt someone with his armor on?
I think the implication here is clear tbh
lastplayed
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lol they don't film it live.
Atomic Odin
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Anyone has that gif of the expression Mel gave Jon after Davos asked him to kill her?
It was the most perfect description of "Have mercy pleeez"
It was the most perfect description of "Have mercy pleeez"
obin_gam
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It puts a terrible strain on the editors wrists.
In my world Margaery is always naked.
The Mountain
Beric Dondarrion
Thoros of Myr
Llyn Payne (the actor got cancer so he stopped being on the show but he has since beat it, who knows if he will ever come back)
I'm sure there are more but those are the ones that are still alive and that I remember.
I've forgotten a lot I see. Thanks for the refresher. Been a while since she's recited it on the show.
There are already a dozen different versions of this. This one is missing Kevan btw!
I'll be voting for a Lannisters second term after this is done.
"Make KingsLanding burn again!"
Make the wall 500 feet higher, let the wildlings pay for it.
Mountain Rape? My first thought was he was gonna tear her eyes out. "Last face you will ever see" Ok she saw the mountains face but he aint exactly living. So my thought was he is gonna tear her eyes out and torture her and keep her in the dungeon until she dies.
I saw no sign of him moving into a position of raping her or any of the sort. I mean I would not put is passed Cersei or the Mountain, I just saw no inclination of rape.
I saw no sign of him moving into a position of raping her or any of the sort. I mean I would not put is passed Cersei or the Mountain, I just saw no inclination of rape.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Spent all day distracted at work thinking about this episode.
"You'll be queen. For a time. Then comes another, younger, more beautiful, to cast you down to take all you hold dear."
Poor Cersei. She was so certain the queen the prophecy referred to was Margaery and failed to see who was truly coming to put an end to her reign of terror.
Poor Cersei. She was so certain the queen the prophecy referred to was Margaery and failed to see who was truly coming to put an end to her reign of terror.
"You'll be queen. For a time. Then comes another, younger, more beautiful, to cast you down to take all you hold dear."
Poor Cersei. She was so certain the queen the prophecy referred to was Margaery and failed to see who was truly coming to put an end to her reign of terror.
I think the implication was definitely rape. I think most people saw that scene that way because that's how it was intended.
Another musing, does Sansa have what it takes to out maneuver Little Finger? She only just started playing the game of thrones. He's been doing it his whole life. What if she somehow kills herself as a way to deny Little Finger what he wants and to expose him to others? Though I'm not sure he needs exposing.
Stop crying I fixed it lol.
Remember Oberyn's speech at the Trial by Combat. The Mountain is infamous for raping and killing his sister. No need for it to take the mask off if the job is just to break Unella's bones. Cercei was going full throttle there. Disturbing.
The damage is done.
He's hot so i hope so
CountAntonius
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For how much the show likes to make us suffer for killing off beloved characters they really have paid off with spectacular deaths of the most hated.
Viserys Targaryen- A Crown For A King
Joffrey Baratheon- Purple Wedding
Meryn Trant- Mutilated at the hands of Arya
Ramsay Bolton- Fed To the hounds
Walder Frey- The Rat Cook
Who's next?
Viserys Targaryen- A Crown For A King
Joffrey Baratheon- Purple Wedding
Meryn Trant- Mutilated at the hands of Arya
Ramsay Bolton- Fed To the hounds
Walder Frey- The Rat Cook
Who's next?
donkey show
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He's using his rowing skills for the Narrow Sea Express. It's how Arya and Varys got across so quickly.
Apparently but what implications? I am gonna watch that part again this evening and check but I don't remember any part of the dialogue or his movement to suggest rape. Not like they haven't shown rape before pretty straight forward.
It's more to do with who The Mountain is and his affinity to raping and murdering.
DukeLongfellow
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But seriously, the whole "teleportation thing" could have been mostly fixed with a few nods of arriving or leaving at/from a certain location. Like when Theon and Yara suddenly appear in the throne room could have been salvaged by a tiny scene of their ships arriving at Mereen. Or the confusion of Varys on the ships could have also been remedied by putting Oleanna or the Dorne crew on another ship.
Hmm true. I just don't really consider him The Mountain in that sense anymore since they revived him. I think of him as a mindless zombie who just follow orders.
searching for "S06E10" in youtube, you can watch pretty much any scene from the last episode.
I just watched it again - he takes his helmet off, and you hear him do something with his armor (which could indiciate him loosening his belt or something like that) - multiple instances of chainmail rattling.
then again, he stands next to Unella when she already starts screaming in pain.
this is the first time that i actually cared about the teleportation. Other times it's very nitpicky, but Varys 'appearing' in Dorne just to, minutes later, 'appear' on a ship going from Mereen back to Westeros was kinda jarring.
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