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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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I never felt the need to remark on this until now but god that scene in the distance is reminiscent of 9/11. While I never really cared for Tommen as a character, I found the entirety of this scene with him staring at the destruction, with the screaming in the background, and the knowledge spinning in his mind that his mother just murdered his wife and half her family in an act of ultimate spite and it is pretty much horrifying to me.
Then he jumps with no hesitation whatsoever and you instantly pity him. he lost everything through no fault of his own and appeared to be going down in history as a terrible king. He was useless as fuck, but he has to be sympathized with on some level. He is inbred for one, although he didn't seem to know that, but he also had a coddling psychopath mother.
Naughty_Doge
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RIP random person killed by a fucking church bell.
Garou
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Did he even know that his mother wasn't there?
well, dude kinda had a choice to make between his mother and his wife, and he chose his wife.
He didn't prevent his mother from having to do the walk of shame and he discontinued the tradition of trial by combat at the very moment his mother would have really needed that.
I think he knew as well as anyone that there was no going back to any kind of "it's you and me, against the world" life.
I think for the very same reason Cersei didn't mourn about Tommen's death quite as much as she did about Joffrey's or Myrcella's ...
The last thing Tommen did was pretty much throw her in front of the Sparrow bus.
Ser Gregor keeping him inside his chamber.
i think he would've been able to do the math.
And even then, that one servant telling him "I'm sorry mylord" must've informed him "on the bright side - your mom's still alive and well, mylord!"
water_wendi
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Cersei and the Mountain are never far apart.
I think Cersei sought revenge on Tommen too. She wanted him to see his world fall apart. After she was rejected by him some episodes ago, he was dead to her. After Myrcella's death, she might have come to terms with the prophecy that all her children would die. The prophecy might not have been true, but as soon as she started believing in it, it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. She also didn't care much about his death, wanting him burned and tossed with the remains of the sept.
Holy shit. He didn't know she wasn't there. Dude might easily have thought that he just lost everyone in KL that he loved.
Edit: guess it was explained above. But still that would have given his death more weight.
RoninChaos
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Tevious
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I wasn't sure at the end of last season, but then Brienne confirmed earlier this season that she chopped Stannis' head off.
The second after I saw this scene, I KNEW this would be GIFed.
water_wendi
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i believe there was also confirmation by Roose Bolton that they found Stannis' body but were unsure who killed him.
edit: by unsure who killed him Roose asked Ramsey if he knew which soldier killed him as he would like to reward them.
Raping, torturing, and murdering is his thing though. And he didn't have to use his penis. I think it's probably left up to the viewer to decide just what was going on in that room, and what would continue to go on for some time. I wonder what Jaime will think if he discovers what's been going on to her.
RoninChaos
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What's worse is I think he knows all this happened because he didn't take his mothers side. The minute he started making decisions on his own he put Cersei into a corner and he didn't even realize it.
Dragon1893
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Cersei would never do that. My first thought was that she was protecting him from whatever she was planning.
water_wendi
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Its possible that Cersei kept Tommen in that room specifically so that he would have a good seat for the devastation.
He totally did. He was very aware that he had to make a choice. And he chose snu-snu, peace in Kings Landing (via the support of House Lannister - via Kevan -, Tyrell and the Sparrows).
I wouldn't have sided with #teamcersei either, which by now only consisted of 4 people - her, Jamie, Qyburn and a fuckin zombie.
He didn't know that corner had a box of matches and a fuse going to a cache of wildfire, though.
"I'm not going to kill you I'm just gonna hurt ya, really, really, bad"
Yeah, it was really well made. You know shit will go down with the lingering music in the background, then stuff starts happening, the song picks up tempo and you're just there like hooolyyyy shiiit goosebumps
yeah it really did, it just shows how much music can effect how you watch a scene. everyone should listen to the full song that I linked, it has a lot of cool different parts throughout it. You can even hear the GoT theme in the song towards the end. The chorus part is really cool as well, and the organ sounding part too. Ramin Djawadi made an amazing track.
Chaos is a ladder. Stirring shit up is how he works. And it's not only about the Iron Throne. As he said himself, Littlefinger wants everything. Cersei named him Warden of The North so I'm sure he feels it's rightfully his.
Cersei would name him Warden of the North if he brought her Sansa's head. He hasn't done that and I don't think he will.
And he can't since he revealed his hand to Sansa and told her what he truly wanted, Sansa knows Littlefinger will never directly betray or harm Sansa, but he will anyone in his or Sansa's way, be it friend or foe.
It's like Superman letting lex Luther know that his true weakness is kryptonite.
He goof'd.
NoblesseOblige
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I imagine the second it was filmed somebody knew it would be GIFed.
Killer Queen
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Fucked this up and posted in the wrong thread. But for those that wanted to see the mountains face.
I can't wait to see The Hounds reaction when he sees his beloved brother and what has become of him.Fucked this up and posted in the wrong thread. But for those that wanted to see the mountains face.
BenjaminBirdie
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Especially since Circe got pretty close to a FB herself in that scene.
I'm pretty sure she's already had him named Warden of The North, at the end of this scene. Not that it really means a whole lot when she could take it away whenever she wants.
Yeah and when news of the Vale helping the Starks will reach King's Landing, his hand will be shown to Cersei. He is a direct enemy of the crown and can't play on all teams as easily anymore.
That was the scene I was thinking of too and I don't think it's set in stone. She needed Tommen's approval but she was arrested right after this. Don't think LF was the first thing on her mind at that point.
EDIT: oh ok, she actually says she would do it the same night. Maybe he is warden of the north, he doesn't mention it though this season
Cersei meant exactly what she said. Until she sees Cersei's face again, Unella is going to live. In the meantime, she'll be tortured and raped by the Mountain.
Valkyr Junkie
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Everyone I was watching the episode with thought The Mountain stabbed Tommen after he grabbed him with his left hand.
ProtomanNeo
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Besides the Lannister and army of King's Landing who else of note stands with them? All signs point towards King's Landing being sacked. I had envisioned a real war taking place when Daenerys returned. However the alliances she's made puts her in a league of her own.
inb4 Qyburn starts his own army of the dead.
LMAO ... they should do that as well on every episodes in GOT
as for episode 9, i think wun wun should get that Play of The Game award
She did have the Mountain prevent him from attending the trial. I think she actually lost Tommen a long time ago, first to Tywin, then to Maergery, Kevan, Pycelle, High Sparrow...
To clarify my point, Cersei resigned to fate after losing Myrcella and seemed relieved it was all over with Tommen. If she weren't selfish and seeking revenge on Septa Unella, she could have kept him alive longer. Even if Maergery had survived, it wouldn't improve anything between them. Taking trial by combat away from Cersei sealed their fates.
I expect Cersei to make an alliance with Euron and he'll pay the iron price for it.
Few more observations:
Puzzled by the spheres from the Citadel/ show intro. The Citadel angle with Sam is intriguing, I expect him to be the "scientific" equivalent of Bran (the show has brought up several "Wizard" references to Sam) but Qyburn is not to be underestimated either.
NoblesseOblige
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Is zombo-mountain capable of thinking for itself or does it just follow orders? I don't remember if that was ever covered anywhere. Though I guess living mountain had also seemed oddly respectful towards Cersei, but maybe it's because she promised him people to kill.
YesNOnoNOYes
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BobTheFork
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I'm waiting for that too but only because it's going to be such a non reaction.
"Gregor...you're better looking than I remember."
Highly intriguing. There's got to be some really juicy piece of information he'll uncover to justify the Citadel storyline. We already know how the White Walkers were created and we know how to kill them. I don't think killing the Night King and ending the long winter will be as simple as sticking dragonglass/Valyerian steel in him or burning him up with dragon fire.
Glass Shark
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Early in this season I was super down on the show but I have to admit that it's kind of redeemed itself in the last few episodes. However, it's kind of silly that Margery's storyline ended without anything playing out. The whole thing felt sort of pointless.
JimiNutz
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I'm having difficulty remembering who Tommen's Hand of the King was? I assume it was someone caught in the blast because shouldn't the throne pass to them when the king dies?
Also wouldn't Jaime be the most senior Lannister now? Isn't it essentially his house now? Can't remember if his uncle is dead also?
Also wouldn't Jaime be the most senior Lannister now? Isn't it essentially his house now? Can't remember if his uncle is dead also?
Kevin iirc and he's dead
Kevan Lannister, I believe. Tywin's brother. And yes. He was in the Sept.
Uncle Kevan was. It's a coup by Cersei so all bets are off.
i'm starting to like cersei more and more, i was hoping that something like this would happen
it seems weird how the lords accepted Jon even after they've seen how easily rattled he was in that battle, you don't want your leader to be sentimental and emotional, so that scene didn't make much sense to me
sansa would be a lot better leader, she's become legitimately clever character (i used to hate her for being useless)
it seems weird how the lords accepted Jon even after they've seen how easily rattled he was in that battle, you don't want your leader to be sentimental and emotional, so that scene didn't make much sense to me
sansa would be a lot better leader, she's become legitimately clever character (i used to hate her for being useless)
Jaime is Lord of the Rock, yes. Which will be interesting since Cersei is relying on Lannister forces to support her claim and he might just turn on her.
I'm sure in the long run he wants control over everything. But Jon Snow is a fairly predictable 'ally'. He is simple, he is focused on the north. If all Littlefinger wanted was chaos, he would never have helped Jon and Sansa retake Winterfell.
Will be interesting to see where Littlefinger goes from here since you have Daenery's coming from one side, and the White Walkers from the other. Littlefinger and his scheming is kinda stuck in the middle.
I don't know how anyone can like Cersei. The Night King is more human than her. This did catapult her from simply "evil bitch" to "A-tier villain".
People do want their leaders to show emotions, have heart, lead them into battle fearlessly, be complete bad-asses and inspire them. And heck, in the history books that victory will probably be described as a brilliant tactical move by Jon.
Sansa is smart but she's still a young girl and it would have felt REALLY strange if the lords of the north did some big "Queen of the north!" thing for her. Lady Mormont inspires more confidence than Sansa does.
I think the point was the Tyrrell choose poorly.
Margery for trying to aquiest to the sparrow. Olleanna for driving Cersi into the dirt when there was finally a chance for an alliance.
They underestimated Cersi. She appeared broken and weak, she was not.
Fucked this up and posted in the wrong thread. But for those that wanted to see the mountains face.
Looks like a hi-res texture pack for a late 90s RPG
XD
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