water_wendi
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Okay but how do we know that from the show? Its a good theory and probably what happened but i think it would have worked better if there was some clarity and coherence to the Arya storyline with the Faceless Men.
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Okay but how do we know that from the show? Its a good theory and probably what happened but i think it would have worked better if there was some clarity and coherence to the Arya storyline with the Faceless Men.
Yeah pretty sure she learned that lesson the hard way already
She went blind the last time she tried before graduation. The faces are poison to the uninitiated. Was stated in the show
weremichael
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Only with the dragon's permission. Otherwise, it's a bit perverse.
MadraptorMan
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Besides all the characters teleporting and the horrible wrap-up to Arya's Bravos arc, this was a pretty solid season. The last two episodes really redeemed it.
PrimaNocta
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damn the first 20 mins was fucking amazing. Music was incredible. Goes to download....
The Hamburglar
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Can someone explain the point of the sword at the foot of the bed, what does it mean
It's not a theory. We saw her put a face back on the pillar in the Season 5 finale which seems to suggest that the faces are actual physical objects that one has to put on. At what point would she have access to the Faces while being hunted?
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i must have missed that or forgot it because i dont remember that. Going to rewatch the scenes again.
It belonged to the guy outside that Ned killed (Ser Arthur Dayne). We don't know if it means anything but some people think it plays into the prince that was promised prophecy which is fueled by the fact that they chose to focus the camera on it
Huh? How do you think she got blinded in the first place?
Chained Prometheus
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Oh man, I'm looking forward to seeing Tyrion and Sansa reunite. That ought to be good.
Yeah, Theon could definitely factor into that as well.
Oh wow, I forgot about that! It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the latest updates on the White Walkers...
I still like the theory that Jaqen was really Syrio the whole time.
Mhmm. Definitely.
Nope, that can't be it. They're going to fight because...reasons. All they have to do is have Tyrion start off with a toast, have some drinks, get Missandei all loosened up, and then have her tell some jokes. Those Northern hearts will melt in no time, and they'd be discussing how to organise against the White Walkers. It's not even about Jon or Dany, the advisors on both sides are so legit, it's a forgone conclusion these two sides will be allies.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i know that she was blinded but i thought it was a punishment meted out by Jaqen and not a side effect of wearing the masks. There was no ceremony or acknowledgement of anything changing in Arya at the end of her meeting with Jaqen. She has a sword to his heart and he says "Go." Nothing happened like a spell was cast or she drank an antidote or whatever. It was Arya basically going "Im Somebody" with him replying "And now you are truly Nobody" Huh?
More_Badass
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This is the kind of show that has been hinting at the Jon lineage reveal since season 1. I'd say the Jaqen-Syrio thing is super plausible and very likely.Oh man, I'm looking forward to seeing Tyrion and Sansa reunite. That ought to be good.
Yeah, Theon could definitely factor into that as well.
Oh wow, I forgot about that! It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the latest updates on the White Walkers...
I still like the theory that Jaqen was really Syrio the whole time.
Fucked this up and posted in the wrong thread. But for those that wanted to see the mountains face.
His eyes look lopsided here, but when he wears his helmet they're normally aligned.
/design nitpick
Vincent Alexander
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Yeah, he makes a comment about the faces being for no one, and she is still some one. What's bad is that the effect of wearing the face, going blind, seems to kick in at the perfect dramatic moment instead of hours prior. So it makes the connection between the two a little more difficult.
I think whatever schemes LF is cooking up might have something to do with Sansa herself. LF at the moment is Robin's caretaker, but there's no way in hell the Vale Lords agree to either attack the Jon directly or join up with Cersei. Instead I think he's going to attempt to drive a wedge between Jon and Sansa, and then perhaps convince the Vale to declare for Sansa Stark, the true born legitimate heir to Winterfell. I think that's his move. I don't sere any other move available for him, unless he goes solo and joins up with Euron and Cersei.
Go south. Take command of the Twins and the Riverrun. Add that to the Vale then convince Cersei to marry him for his army. Boom, he sits upon the Iron Throne.
Fanfiction speculation time!
-There will be two major Bran visions in season 7, one will tell us exactly who Rhaegar was and why things happened the way they did, tying into who Jon is supposed to be, the other will be the construction of the Wall and the final secret of the magic protecting the North
- Sam's studies and Bran's visions will go hand in hand explaining all the legends and prophecies of Westeros which are key to defeating the NIght King
- The season finale will open with Bran's vision of the final construction of the Wall, and the episode will end with the Wall coming down
-There will be two major Bran visions in season 7, one will tell us exactly who Rhaegar was and why things happened the way they did, tying into who Jon is supposed to be, the other will be the construction of the Wall and the final secret of the magic protecting the North
- Sam's studies and Bran's visions will go hand in hand explaining all the legends and prophecies of Westeros which are key to defeating the NIght King
- The season finale will open with Bran's vision of the final construction of the Wall, and the episode will end with the Wall coming down
CountAntonius
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Chained Prometheus
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Oh definitely. Honestly, I pretty much believe the Jaqen-Syrio theory be correct and treat it as my personal headcanon until proven otherwise.
And on the point of the show hinting at Jon's lineage since Season 1, the show has been hinting at Dany going up North and potentially meeting Jon Snow since at least Season 2 (I'd need to double-check and see if there were previous clues back in Season 1 too). And hell, they really telegraphed Cersei blowing everyone up with the wildfire in the finale too throughout Season 6.
That reminds me, recasting the Three Eyed Raven and getting Max Von Sydow for such a brief role seemed rather odd.
I'm interested in the logistics on how Arya was able to use the face-swapping ability. It's not like she can send Jaqen a raven: "Hey lemme borrow a couple of female faces quick like, I'll PayPal you the shipping fee." Also It's not like there's a 3D printer anywhere in Westeros to quickly fabricate these faces. Although she could go to a morgue somewhere and scalp a few from corpses.
She took some before she left? I don't think it's that much of an issue and the blanks can easily be filled in on your own.
Dubbedinenglish
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She made a mask of the Waif, so I would assume she killed someone and made a mask to use on Frey.
Obliterator
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I'm expecting this show to win some serious Emmy's this year. They nuked this season from orbit big time, especially with those last 2 episodes, which in retrospect elevate the whole season.
And we also can't forget The Door. We've all been so hyped with how 9 and 10 turned out we can't forget how good Bender did with The Door. A dream scenario is a Season 7 where Bender and Sapochnik just alternate directing episodes. Bender is a GOAT TV show director and it appears Sapochnik is well on his way as well
And we also can't forget The Door. We've all been so hyped with how 9 and 10 turned out we can't forget how good Bender did with The Door. A dream scenario is a Season 7 where Bender and Sapochnik just alternate directing episodes. Bender is a GOAT TV show director and it appears Sapochnik is well on his way as well
What about the more logical conclusion? That Arya has no more morals or value for human lives, and killed some random tavern wench, removed her face, and cleaned the body, and used her identity.
She's going to team up with Hot Pie and Gendry again, and they'll be the darkest and most cruel assassin band known in Westeros. Gendry will then declare himself the King of Blood.
Or this as well. Show doesn't seem too concerned with the hows because there are several ways it could have gone down and none of them are far fetched or anything.
CountAntonius
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I wonder if Gendry still has his helm...
Gendry should start abusing fast travel like everyone else.
It's plausible. Although I don't think she'll be killing some random Westerosi, it wouldn't sit well with her Chaotic Neutral alignment
Nope, the blonde kid Arya told the Lannister soldiers was Gendry had it with him, right after that they were taken prisoner.
Atomic Odin
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So where were the brotherhood & the hound were supposed to be going? Its only a minor thing but I was hoping to see the Hound in the finale. Do you people think they might meet up with Mel again?
They're going North
Atomic Odin
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North as in to Winterfell? Hound's reunion with the Stark sisters would be interesting to see.
Comfort Jones
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I thought that got left with Lommy when he was killed and Arya claimed he was Gendry because he had the helmet.
Dubbedinenglish
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Meli was also going South, and Ayra is right in the middle there. Brienne should around there too.
Here's my hot take on Season 6 overall:
- Episode 1 was the worst opening episode ever, and one of the low points of the show in terms of getting anyone excited for a new season. Along with how poorly Season 5 went and how it ended, it really lowered expectations across the board.
- Episodes 2 to 4 were pretty standard Game of Thrones episodes, but better than the lows of Season 5, so they were entertaining but not particularly gripping.
- Episode 5 rejuvenated the show in a fantastic way. Not only did it blow certain plotlines wide open, but it finally felt like the show was moving with strong momentum again, and things were happening.
- Episodes 6 and 7 continued this momentum and were very entertaining episodes with some great shots. Episode 7 in particular has some of the best establishing vistas the show has ever had. It highlighted the variety of locations across the world, and great they can look when the show wanted to showcase that point.
- Episode 8 was a huge misstep which felt like tripping and falling on your face after finally getting into a groove during a marathon. It hurts, bad.
- Episodes 9 and 10 redeemed any misstep way and beyond. The best consecutive two hours of Game of Thrones ever produced, with fantastic events, direction, music, cinematography, and ushers the series into a true new era, emphasizing that this second part of the story after the Red Wedding, is well and truly over.
- Overall one of the best seasons of the show, and definitely the best one since the series dedicated itself to a pulpier but more honest and direct take on fantasy since Season 4. I never felt the show was that great at trying to be a more serious and grounded fantasy series like it tried to be in the first few seasons, but once they embraced the big action and pulpy villains, it got much better. Season 6 is the pinnacle of that direction they started to head in, and is all the better for it.
- Episode 1 was the worst opening episode ever, and one of the low points of the show in terms of getting anyone excited for a new season. Along with how poorly Season 5 went and how it ended, it really lowered expectations across the board.
- Episodes 2 to 4 were pretty standard Game of Thrones episodes, but better than the lows of Season 5, so they were entertaining but not particularly gripping.
- Episode 5 rejuvenated the show in a fantastic way. Not only did it blow certain plotlines wide open, but it finally felt like the show was moving with strong momentum again, and things were happening.
- Episodes 6 and 7 continued this momentum and were very entertaining episodes with some great shots. Episode 7 in particular has some of the best establishing vistas the show has ever had. It highlighted the variety of locations across the world, and great they can look when the show wanted to showcase that point.
- Episode 8 was a huge misstep which felt like tripping and falling on your face after finally getting into a groove during a marathon. It hurts, bad.
- Episodes 9 and 10 redeemed any misstep way and beyond. The best consecutive two hours of Game of Thrones ever produced, with fantastic events, direction, music, cinematography, and ushers the series into a true new era, emphasizing that this second part of the story after the Red Wedding, is well and truly over.
- Overall one of the best seasons of the show, and definitely the best one since the series dedicated itself to a pulpier but more honest and direct take on fantasy since Season 4. I never felt the show was that great at trying to be a more serious and grounded fantasy series like it tried to be in the first few seasons, but once they embraced the big action and pulpy villains, it got much better. Season 6 is the pinnacle of that direction they started to head in, and is all the better for it.
soundscream
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Maybe Dany doesnt marry Jon but the Night King. That would be so badass!
I realized everytime Jaime left King's Landing and Cersei, she did something really awful that made everything worse for Lannisters;
-He left to deal with the rebellion, Cersei couldn't control Jeoffrey, got Ned Stark's head chopped when they could end the war right there...
-He left to bring back their daughter, Cersei propped up faith to hurt Tyrells, ended up humiliating herself, losing control of her son and all of her powers instead.
-He left for Riverrun, Cersei blew up everyone.
Cersei really needs her bro.
-He left to deal with the rebellion, Cersei couldn't control Jeoffrey, got Ned Stark's head chopped when they could end the war right there...
-He left to bring back their daughter, Cersei propped up faith to hurt Tyrells, ended up humiliating herself, losing control of her son and all of her powers instead.
-He left for Riverrun, Cersei blew up everyone.
Cersei really needs her bro.
Yeah, she needs him to put her out of her misery.
My predictions for season 7:
- Cersei and Euron fall in love and marry, Cersei kills Jamie when he tries to kill her.
- Arya and Sansa have a tragic reunion, one of them will be dying.
- Jon and Dany form an alliance.
- Sansa kills LF after his inevitable betrayal.
- Yara dies, Theon regains his sanity and rules their mountain city thing.
- Dany kills Cersei but destroys the majority of King's Landing in the process, her army is significantly smaller from the war.
- Bran has something to do with the destruction of the wall. His visions show us the White Walkers civilisation, and people become slightly sympathetic to their cause.
- Sam figures something important out.
- Cersei and Euron fall in love and marry, Cersei kills Jamie when he tries to kill her.
- Arya and Sansa have a tragic reunion, one of them will be dying.
- Jon and Dany form an alliance.
- Sansa kills LF after his inevitable betrayal.
- Yara dies, Theon regains his sanity and rules their mountain city thing.
- Dany kills Cersei but destroys the majority of King's Landing in the process, her army is significantly smaller from the war.
- Bran has something to do with the destruction of the wall. His visions show us the White Walkers civilisation, and people become slightly sympathetic to their cause.
- Sam figures something important out.
To be fair, Jaime also has terrible luck every time he leaves King's Landing. Whoever he allies with ends up dying horribly.
- After he makes a deal with Cat be released if helps bring her daughters home, Cat, Robb and everyone end up being slaughtered at the Red Wedding.
- After he makes a deal with Doran, and gets Myrcella to agree to return to King's Landing with Trystane, everyone involved in this deal gets killed by Bad Pussies.
- After he plans for a way to take Riverrun without bloodshed, he ends up getting the Blackfish killed anyway.
- After he wines and dines with Walder Frey celebrating the return of Rivverrun, Walder Frey and his sons are killed by Arya Stark.
The only reason Brienne is still alive, is because she befriended Jaime while they were still in King's Landing. Think about it, it all makes sense! If you make friends with Jaime Lannister outside of King's Landing, you are DEAD!!!!
- After he makes a deal with Cat be released if helps bring her daughters home, Cat, Robb and everyone end up being slaughtered at the Red Wedding.
- After he makes a deal with Doran, and gets Myrcella to agree to return to King's Landing with Trystane, everyone involved in this deal gets killed by Bad Pussies.
- After he plans for a way to take Riverrun without bloodshed, he ends up getting the Blackfish killed anyway.
- After he wines and dines with Walder Frey celebrating the return of Rivverrun, Walder Frey and his sons are killed by Arya Stark.
The only reason Brienne is still alive, is because she befriended Jaime while they were still in King's Landing. Think about it, it all makes sense! If you make friends with Jaime Lannister outside of King's Landing, you are DEAD!!!!
I saw it yesterday and I really liked it. Season 7 is gonna be insane if they get Dany to Westeros fast enough and not have her on sea for a couple of episodes. I also think Jon is gonna team up with her, makes the most sense and the North might go independent like the Iron Isles. Loved the scene with Lyanna Mormont standing up and telling what's what, the Lords pledging their alliance was awesome.
Plus, the reveal of Jon being a Targaryan and a Stark was cool too. Wonder how that's gonna play out.
Plus, the reveal of Jon being a Targaryan and a Stark was cool too. Wonder how that's gonna play out.
Bran goes back in time and alters their DNA while in the womb. Boom, conjoined twins! Westeros can breath a little easier.
YesNOnoNOYes
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i didn't quite begin with liking jaime lannister as a fan of the show but now that i think about it, he does have terrible luck
so not only the good guys are punished
... well jaime is sort of not bad sometimes....
uh. i just suddenly took a moment to applaud at how complex his character is. lol. even as 'kingslayer' ... i mean, when i heard the nick at first i was frothing at the mouth thinking that he's a wanker and a traitor who would kill his liege for personal gain but later i heard the complete story and the mad king was mad so...
idk
call me ambivalent about jaime for now, i guess. good show, grrm. good show.
Incitemaybe
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Just watched that last episode and holy shit, I was afraid this episode couldn't top the last for dramatic momentum and it surely surpassed it. I've never had a TV show engage me so much and be so much fun.
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