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Humble brag.
But Joffrey is also loved by the people so the story might not actually be like that...
This post is fucked up. This post is the Joffrey of posts.
People hated Joffrey, remember when they threw shit at him? Seems like only people across the Narrow Sea think he was any good.
Rhaegar is the mad king's son, right ? So he's the oldest brother of Daenerys ? Or am I missing something here ?
So basically Liana eloped with Rhaegar so John is half Targaryen half Stark goddamn. I was sure he was gonna end up marrying Daenerys but if he's her half-brother ugh ...
So basically Liana eloped with Rhaegar so John is half Targaryen half Stark goddamn. I was sure he was gonna end up marrying Daenerys but if he's her half-brother ugh ...
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Yes, he is Dany's oldest brother. I think he married a Martell and their infant son was killed by Jaime.
When he was married he had an affair with Lyanna, who was betrothed to Robert Baratheon.
Jon's presumably their issue.
SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG THO
Yes, Rhaegar was the eldest son and Targies fucking loooooove incest, so Dany wouldn't mind getting it on with Jon.
Yes, he was married to Elia Martell, the person Oberyn was trying to avenge. It wasn't Jaime, though, it was The Mountain who raped her, murdered her and killed her children.
But Daenerys was a baby when her father died so basically her parents waited at least 20 years (prob way more) to have her after they had their first son ? So weird ... And Rhaegar was probably way older than 20 when he died so yeah the age difference between Daenerys and Rhaegar is prob bigger.
When Joffery was killed, no one had the balls to admit they did it. When Barristan was killed, his only friend in the battle was someone who had no balls.
They never touch on it in the show, but from the DVD lore I get the impression House Reed isn't anything like the others. They're druidy type nature lovers living in swamps with no army of their own.
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thank you einchy <3 you are a gift <3
(so glad it wasn't jaime)
she wasn't a baby. she was like... a toddler or something.
i know a dude in real whose brother is 18 years older than him. it happens.
My brother is 12 years older than I am.
If Jon was happy to accept 62 fighting bears, I'm sure he would be okay with 20 healers or wizards.
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omg r u a targ
My mah and dah are ma sis and bro!!!!
Langdon Alger
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Arya's a straight psycho at this point. Baking people into a pie is some serial killer shit. I can't like Arya anymore.
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what if it's a really, really delicious pie though
If she's a straight psycho, why didn't she kill Lady Crane? Also baking people into pies is the punishment for breaking guest right.
Now that R+L=J is out, I feel it's safe to post this fan-made vid someone made depicting the events during Roberts Rebellion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvRoZaWDAVI
It's pretty fucking fantastic, and Eva Green makes for an amazing Lyanna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvRoZaWDAVI
It's pretty fucking fantastic, and Eva Green makes for an amazing Lyanna.
That video is pretty terrible with the music and all.
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was about to ask the same.
Really interested in such a video. Someone aware of such a thing?
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Oh well.
you are still cool to me, coolofferston <3
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Finally watched it, was great. Quick question.
How does Arya shapeshift? I know that she's been "training" for it a lot, but she never actually worn a mask of someone else before, right? She never actually got taught how to do it if I'm remembering correctly. And how does she do it? Just "magic", or did they ever go into it?
How does Arya shapeshift? I know that she's been "training" for it a lot, but she never actually worn a mask of someone else before, right? She never actually got taught how to do it if I'm remembering correctly. And how does she do it? Just "magic", or did they ever go into it?
Well, once she killed the Waif and gave her face to the Many-Faced God, she became "No One". Everyone thought that because she quit, she hadn't actually gained the ability to change her face but it seems like that's not the case.
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arya killed meryn trant in the season 5 finale with another face, or at least she had another face shortly before she killed him
I just remembered this was a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJhXez42Ko
Had that on repeat for a few weeks straight last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJhXez42Ko
Had that on repeat for a few weeks straight last year.
Dubbedinenglish
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Wasn't that one poorly fitting and she couldn't speak through it either.
Lyanna was kind of a tomboy and most likely a capable fighter. Ned refereed to her as wolf blooded. It is unlikely that a woman like that would be kidnapped, raped and kept away from her family for over 9 months.
Obviously it is only speculation but it is hinted that she followed Rhaegar willingly.
Well, that's a leap. She doesn't say anything, but a big part of that scene is her not giving Trant the satisfaction of screaming out when he hits her.
I don't think the mask was shown to be poorly fitted.
Thinking about it... isn't the Stark name also doomed to extinction? Technically Bran is the head of the house now, but I don't know if it's whether or not he can still father children. But if he can't, then the Starks are done; Jon will carry the Targaryen name presumably and Sansa and Arya can't pass the name to their children, so... everything is on Bran's shoulders.
Besides, if Jon now is King in the North, and Winterfell is the capital of the north... is he also Lord of Winterfell?
Besides, if Jon now is King in the North, and Winterfell is the capital of the north... is he also Lord of Winterfell?
It's kinda crazy when you go back to the first season and the whole plotline with Ned trying to find out what Jon Arryn's last words 'The seed is strong' meant. And that the answer being right there for Ned in the form of his (adopted) son Jon.
That's probably the one thing that's going through his mind when he reads that book about all the Baratheon children being born with dark hair.
That's probably the one thing that's going through his mind when he reads that book about all the Baratheon children being born with dark hair.
Well... no, but the strong implication is that they ran off to Dorne together, maybe to leave their political marriages/betrothals behind. It was only perceived as a kidnapping by Robert and Ned's father.
The two biggest pieces of evidence are Barriston Selmy's description of Rhaegar and Littlefinger's telling of the Tournament at Harrenhall.
Selmy described Rhaegar as a man of the people. He hated war and sang to the peasants, and when they gave him money for singing, he would give it to the less talented beggars. Selmy described him as the best man he'd ever known, and Selmy was as honorable a man as Ned Stark. Does that sound like a rapist?
Since everybody, who sat on the Iron Throne, became a bad person, wouldn't it make sense, that it gets destroyed at the end of the series. Daenerys already declared, that Meereen should become a republic. Maybe she will finally end the game of thrones and start a new beginning for the world?
There could be a lot of parallels to Georg Washington with Daenerys (she already has the white hair), after she had her Lincoln run.
There could be a lot of parallels to Georg Washington with Daenerys (she already has the white hair), after she had her Lincoln run.
Are we really doing this?
What are YOU doing?
Oh, for fucks sake. It's fiction. These things follow a linear story path. Don't be that guy who tries to correlate real complex issues with a fictional narrative.
Rhaegar and Lyanna pretty obviously ran off together.
Pointing out fundamental flaws in thinking.
We have many examples in fiction alone (and even in this very show) where a person pretending to be nice is actually evil. This isn't anything complex, it's actually quite simple. Your question of "does this sound like a man who" holds no real weight (even more so in fiction than anywhere else), particularly when every action done by this man has been told to us second-handed and particularly so when those actions were ones that were publicly displayed.
For what it's worth, I agree that they ran off together. It's just that everyone's way of articulating why they believe that is borderline awful.
Care to explain to us why you think so in your wonderful ways?
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Jon being KITN could name his children however the fuck he wanted and even legitimize himself as a Stark if he wanted to (Having in mind that he's still a bastard. A Targaryen bastard.) . And I guess Sansa could name her offspring Stark too since Lyanna Mormont is the daughter of Maege Mormont and has her name and inherited the title too.
Yeah, that and the show has been pretty explicit on that subject. If that was the case I'm pretty sure D&D would have rubbed it in our faces for another of their "shock moments".
The story is not about Rhaegar, the story is about characters we've actually seen: Ned and Robert, and the repercussions of their character on the protagonists (such as Jon, Arya and such).
The implication that they lied and caused a war, because of jealousy, adds another layer to the narrative, because it flips characters we are familiar with on their heads.
The implication that they didn't really lie, and Rhaegar did kidnap and rape Lyanna, doesn't add anything, and toys with a character we never met and never will meet, so it holds very little weight.
The more narratively compelling outcome is obvious, and since this is fiction, people will gravitate (but this happens even with real life stories, since a beautifully told lie, is more compelling than a dull truth, which is the basis for conspiracy theories) towards the narrative that makes the story more compelling, given an equal amount of evidence to both theories.
Otherwise the answer you'd want to hear is: No one but the authors knows.
Now, mind you, I don't think Robert and Ned "lied" to start a war. I think it was probably a conclusion they jumped to after Rhaegar and Lyanna took off. At least where the show is concerned, all the dialogue in Season 1 strongly suggests that Robert believed Lyanna loved him and was taken against her will.
Ned's father and older brother rode to meet to the Mad King after the abduction supposedly took place, and Mad King answered their outrage by murdering them. That started the rebellion in earnest.
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