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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]

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Nameless

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YES. lol

To the people suggesting that marriage is being held as an actual option for Dany (something I disagree with if only for the simple reason that it would have been mentioned before and not just as a throwaway line to placate Daario), here's one simple question:

WHO does she marry???

Have y'all been paying attention to the Seven Kingdoms lately? They're all either in shambles, currently being ruled by other women, or both.

There's no politically advantageous marriage to be had. Littlefinger? No. He technically does not rule The Vale (...yet), nor is the Vale in a strong enough position to really offer Dany something worth considering marriage for.

Jon Snow? Her nephew?

By my last check, there's no male ruler in a strong position left in Westeros. So who is she marrying? It makes no sense.

There's no need to play traditional politics like this. The old houses are dead or dying. That was kind of the point of this season.


As much as I dislike the idea of a Jon/Dany romance plotline marrying him makes the most sense if she wants to pull off an Aegon-tier conquest and take the entire realm. She has the Reach, she has Dorne, and she has the Iron Islands on paper. Cersei and Euron will put up a decent enough fight but they can't beat her, no one South of the Neck can.

But if Dany is dumb enough to try and take The North by force she is boned. She dicked around in Meereen too long and now the "coldest Winter in a thousand years" is here, transforming the already massive and treacherous region into just about the worst frozen hellscape imaginable for her collection of Summer warriors. Whatever of her host made it all the way to Winterfell would then have to win a siege against a force who specialize in fighting in the frost & snow.

And what are Dragons against a Raven?
 

Markoman

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Pretty cool detail that we finally know what that thing in the intro is supposed to be :p

Holy shit, pls tell me they are not going to pull out a (deus ex) machina sun to end winter?

Edit:
Ok, rewatched the intro and Sam's library scene. I don't know if I'm just parroting an already established fan theory, but here's what's going to happen:

- Sam will become GOAT, he'll provide the big deus ex machina moment for the show's finale.
- The science vs. religion trope has already been foreshadowed, when Sam met Melissandre at the wall
- Sam will study the ancient mechanism in the library - recover forgotten knowledge and make it work again
- The intro shows an artificial sun and the mechanism in the library involves multiple mirrors
- The show in the end will follow the fantasy trope of how knowledge beats magic and religion
- They've spent so much time on this character - he will have a major purpose
 

axb2013

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I can't shake the impression that when Sansa denied LF and he said "a motherless bastard born in the South" about Jon, she thought it describes her.

He'll leave the Starks alone for a while but I wouldn't be surprised if LF starts courting Daenerys early next season, it's a LF thing to do, attach himself to power.
 

TheRed

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I can't shake the impression that when Sansa denied LF and he said "a motherless bastard born in the South" about Jon, she thought it describes her.

He'll leave the Starks alone for a while but I wouldn't be surprised if LF starts courting Daenerys early next season, it's a LF thing to do, attach himself to power.
Wouldn't Tyrion warn her about LF not being trustworthy? I'd be impressed if LF can win Dany over to marry him.
 

lamaroo

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I can't shake the impression that when Sansa denied LF and he said "a motherless bastard born in the South" about Jon, she thought it describes her.

He'll leave the Starks alone for a while but I wouldn't be surprised if LF starts courting Daenerys early next season, it's a LF thing to do, attach himself to power.

Both Tyrion and Varys know better than to let that happen.
 
Rewatching season1 I was reminded of Tyrion and Jon's bromance so I can see an alliance being formed there. But then Dany is allied with Theon and there was no love lost there even before Theon betrayed his house
 

Riposte

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Littlefinger really doesn't fit in the story anymore, at least as how the show has crafted it. His whole thing is playing two or more sides, but he has no place among the dragons, ice zombies, or pirates. King's Landing political intrigue has been wiped clean, leaving the area with 3 or 4 characters. Westeros is all that matters now and most of it doesn't. So all that's left to do is poke at a betrayed Sansa a bunch until it gets him unceremoniously killed; granted, this was probably always how he was going to die.
 
Also it's interesting how close all of these houses now are to dying off completely due to a lack of continued bloodline. All of the Lannisters, Targaryans and Starks are on their last legs and will need to reproduce soon

And Jon isn't even a Stark. Though maybe it's time somebody in the Stark family corrected that.
 
- They've spent so much time on this character - he will have a major purpose

His purpose is and has always been the exposition character. Of course they would spend a lot of time with him... he is integral to explaining the story to the viewer in a way that we understand it. He won't HAVE a major purpose, he has HAD a major purpose.
 

Markoman

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His purpose is and has always been the exposition character. Of course they would spend a lot of time with him... he is integral to explaining the story to the viewer in a way that we understand it. He won't HAVE a major purpose, he has HAD a major purpose.

Don't agree. Why are they still continuing his arc then? What kind of exposition can he provide while being completely out of the game? He's the Jack (Lost) of the Got universe. Why establish a "knowledge" char without greater meaning or purpose? I've always feared that Bran will do some magic bs at the end to save the day against the WW, but now I'm 100% sure Bran and Sam, the non-warriors of the show, will be crucial for overcoming the odds in the end.
 

Zolo

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Cersei should blame the Mountain. If he didn't rape and kill the Martells, maybe Myrcella would be alive.

Maybe. lol.

Ironically, Ellaria and the sand snakes have killed almost as many of their own family members as the people who they want revenge against for killing their family members.

Cue Oberyn getting revived and wanting revenge for the death of his brother and nephew.
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
Tyrion got emotional because this is the first time someone has truly shown respect for him. Compare this scene to when he was Hand of the King back in Season 2.
Yeah I think he is more overwhelmed by a sense of belonging than falling in love with Dany. He was the famous dwarf Westeros and nobody took him seriously even though he is an intelligent man. Repeatedly he is told he'd be dead in a gutter if not for his Lannister last name. Finally somebody recognized his talent and rewarded him, mostly through his own skills than by name recognition as well. He is overjoyed.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Holy shit, pls tell me they are not going to pull out a (deus ex) machina sun to end winter?

Edit:
Ok, rewatched the intro and Sam's library scene. I don't know if I'm just parroting an already established fan theory, but here's what's going to happen:

- Sam will become GOAT, he'll provide the big deus ex machina moment for the show's finale.
- The science vs. religion trope has already been foreshadowed, when Sam met Melissandre at the wall
- Sam will study the ancient mechanism in the library - recover forgotten knowledge and make it work again
- The intro shows an artificial sun and the mechanism in the library involves multiple mirrors
- The show in the end will follow the fantasy trope of how knowledge beats magic and religion
- They've spent so much time on this character - he will have a major purpose

i think its just a series of mirrors and clockwork machinery so that the library is lit without fire.

edit: and i agree with you that Sam is going to find something. i mean, he has to unless the Citadel journey is just a complete bust.
 

WhiteWolf

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Just started and finished the season this weekend. So did Bran cause Hodor to become the Hodor we know? Sorry if this has been asked many times before, I just finished the season a few hours ago.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Just started and finished the season this weekend. So did Bran cause Hodor to become the Hodor we know? Sorry if this has been asked many times before, I just finished the season a few hours ago.

Yes, he forced young Hodor's mind to see his death and seeing that + his mind traveling through time caused his brain to go splat.
 

Showaddy

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I just thought it's funny, he's not Jon Snow, he's not Jon Stark either, born in Dorne he could have been Jon Sand. Oh and he's not Jon.

Bastard names come from where you're raised not from where you're born though. Ned's story has him being born in the South anyway and he was still raised as Snow.
 

Tonky

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Holy shit, pls tell me they are not going to pull out a (deus ex) machina sun to end winter?

Edit:
Ok, rewatched the intro and Sam's library scene. I don't know if I'm just parroting an already established fan theory, but here's what's going to happen:

- Sam will become GOAT, he'll provide the big deus ex machina moment for the show's finale.
- The science vs. religion trope has already been foreshadowed, when Sam met Melissandre at the wall
- Sam will study the ancient mechanism in the library - recover forgotten knowledge and make it work again
- The intro shows an artificial sun and the mechanism in the library involves multiple mirrors
- The show in the end will follow the fantasy trope of how knowledge beats magic and religion
- They've spent so much time on this character - he will have a major purpose
Sam = Lord of Light?
 

Tonky

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Fear the Walking Dead comes back in August, lasts until October
Walking Dead comes back in October, 1st half of season lasts until December
Walking Dead comes back (again) in February, lasts until March
Better Call Saul comes back in February, lasts until April
Game of Thrones comes back in April

Doesn't seem too bad if you're into the other shows.
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
Fear the Walking Dead comes back in August, lasts until October
Walking Dead comes back in October, 1st half of season lasts until December
Walking Dead comes back (again) in February, lasts until March
Better Call Saul comes back in February, lasts until April
Game of Thrones comes back in April

Doesn't seem too bad if you're into the other shows.

So nothing until Better Call Saul?
 
So nothing until Better Call Saul?

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I don't think he's falling for her as much as he is grateful to her for shaking him from his weariness of the world.
Tyrion and Danny still seem 100% platonic, but Tyrion is finally out of his downward spiral. He has hope for the future and purpose in his life again, thanks to Danny. He's just surprised he could ever feel this way.
Pretty sure Tyrion and Dany are platonic at this point, even with that lingering shot being referred to that some feel indicates otherwise. He's used to having to deal with Cercei's bullshit at every turn and a boy king that didn't know the first thing about ruling. He's still taking it all in that he's finally able to make a difference and be recognized and appreciated for his strengths.
I am so confident he has fallen for her that I'll take an avatar bet on it. Or I'll boil and eat a leather shoe. Whichever is the more interesting to people here. Remember this folks---I'll be back a year from now!

Also it's interesting how close all of these houses now are to dying off completely due to a lack of continued bloodline. All of the Lannisters, Targaryans and Starks are on their last legs and will need to reproduce soon

And Jon isn't even a Stark. Though maybe it's time somebody in the Stark family corrected that.
I was thinking the same thing. House Tyrell I think is 100% fucked. They have no males left as far as we know of that can reproduce and bring back the line. Or am I forgetting someone?

He is though. Lyanna was a Stark.
I think he means by name.
 
I am so confident he has fallen for her that I'll take an avatar bet on it. Or I'll boil and eat a leather shoe. Whichever is the more interesting to people here. Remember this folks---I'll be back a year from now!


I think he means by name.


I was thinking the same thing. House Tyrell I think is 100% fucked. They have no males left as far as we know of that can reproduce and bring back the line.

Whatever the case it may be, I don't think him falling for her will play any sort of significant role, storywise, aside from loyalty.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Just showing how they shot the finale, and all of the difficulties they came across doing it. Basically behind the scenes stuff on the episode.

Ah, I see, thanks.

Hopefully it's new footage cus they've released a TON of behind the scenes stuff for all the episodes on HBO and on their Youtube.
 
Just showing how they shot the finale, and all of the difficulties they came across doing it. Basically behind the scenes stuff on the episode.

Wonder if it's the same stuff hey have on Youtube. On HBO Canada they're showing episodes 8,9 and 10 starting at 9.

I'd take the special over these 3 eps if it's something new.

Does anyone know where to watch After the Thrones? You'd think it would be online on HBOcanada but nope.

I've read that it's awful, but supposedly there is one on Sky that is better?

I've been doing a re-watch of the series and watching all the behind the scenes and inside the episode stuff after every episode. Wouldn't mind adding After the Thrones, or the Sky version if it's decent enough.
 
I was thinking the same thing. House Tyrell I think is 100% fucked. They have no males left as far as we know of that can reproduce and bring back the line. Or am I forgetting someone?

Well Mace and Loras are dead. I'm sure Olenna has a brother or nephew or something. Someone who hasn't been mentioned yet and could easily be brought in. The Tyrells are one of the great families of Westeros. I'm assuming there were more than 2 living males.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
The problem with finding stuff that fill GoT's void is that there isn't much like Game of Thrones.

I hear the Metabarons are kinda GoT-esque but in space. Also heard that there's these books called a Song of Ice and Fire that are somewhat similar, might check those out.
 

Walpurgis

Banned
I think their relationship means a lot more if it's him being respectful of her. We know he can love, we've seen it twice, but have we ever seen him actually respect someone SO much that he vowed to them? Not until Dany.
Agreed. Romance would ruin it so I am expecting that.
 
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