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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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Kwansu Dudes
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How did Varys go from Dorne to Denarys so fast?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I'd say it would be a distraction and also cause unintentional tonal shifts.
With that said, I do agree the passage of time could be better conveyed
jediyoshi
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boo !
The implication was that those scenes were probably spaced weeks apart. It's just something you have to go with when watching this show, not all events shown in every episode are happening concurrently.
Bran with his mark will bring down the wall. I don't know why he doesn't realise it yet.
No it did have the intended result. Lady Olenna got the hell out of King's Landing.
From the look of the faces of everyone during Cersei's coronation, I'm guessing everyone knows who was responsible.
Sansa has her mother's colouring. So Starks aren't super gened or anything.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The music during Cersei's machinations coming to fruition is just amazing.
What a tense scene.
What a tense scene.
DangerMouse
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Yeah, both of those were great scenes.
And it's great they had her apologize for that, directly addressing those complaining about that last week.
Yup. I hope it's as satisfying as it deserves to be. Knowing how they've handled such scenes like that so far I think it will be.
Haha
Devilgunman
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Has somebody gif Tommen jumping off the window yet? Should be great for "thread abandon" meme.
Ziltoidia 9
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The more details you give, the more wrong you get to be. You know someone is going to sit down and work out exactly how fast things should be.
In the other thread a couple of users posted theirs already.
i like how in this morally grey dark gritty quasi-realistic medieval world everyone is just like "yeah the 12-year old is fucking right!"
best episode of the series
someone on the kotaku article commented "I know why they call it king's landing now" lmao
The thing that makes Varys bouncing around weirder is his last scene with Tyrion made it sound like they would only meet again in Westeros. So there was no expectation for him to ever come back. He would arrange plans and meet up when the fleet arrived, not come back to verify things.
Naughty_Doge
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They have always been purposefully vague with times because of the magnitude of the sevil. Imagine having to see chatacters riding for weeks or months to get from one place to another.
I suppose it's a necessary evil.
I suppose it's a necessary evil.
Devilgunman
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Lol thank you so much.
What works in a book doesn't always work on a show. A character taking months to reach a destination in book translates to something incredibly slow and boring on a show. The story is at a point where lots of things start to happen and there is no way a 10 episode season would cover months of traveling.
It's basically the writers' way of saying, "Hey, notice how GRRM takes forever to make stuff happen, let's establish right now we're not going to fall into that trap. If you don't believe us, here's Varys on Dany's ship within 10 minutes of being in Dorne. Interpret the passage of time however you wish."
I think Varys had to be there, because all the pieces needed to be firmly in place. His presence told us that everything was finalized, and added to the context of that final scene with Dany and her ships.
In general, time is just kind of convoluted now. Cersei burns a bunch of important Tyrells alive, and then we suddenly see grandma Tyrell having tea in Dorne? No mourning? When did she even find out?
The writers have pretty much given themselves the liberty of letting the audience fill in the gaps. How many days, weeks between the Varys in Dorne scene and the Varys on a boat scene? Who knows? Maybe 10, maybe 20, maybe 60? It's up to our imaginations.
I'm hoping Arya.... but I'm guessing it will be Sansa. Maybe Sansa finds out after the Starks are reunited and tells Arya and Arya finds a way to just borrow Sansa's face without killing her.
yeah, no
First thing I though of when I saw it...use with caution me thinks.
It doesn't even always work in the book. Timelines are funky even there.
You know how long book readers have waited for Tyrion to get to Dany? Literally, kids who were born when that plot started are going to be graduating high school.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
The best episode of the best season of GoT yet. The first third in Kings Landing was real HBO shit. Keep that director happy.
A thought occurred to me that Benjen might not be on Team Living. i think we are going to see some subterfuge from the Nights King. im guessing that the wall doesnt immediately collapse or anything but that the magic is nullified and nobody at Castle Black is the wiser because there is no Maester there to check on such things. The Nights Watch will find out the wall can be breached by undead after its already happened.
It made me feel a bit sick, as though I knew none of it felt right. To think she would go to such depths.
And now that she has no children left to humanize her, she is going to be the most dangerous threat Westerns has seen on the Iron Throne
DangerMouse
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Yeah, it was gloriously fitting.
It was utterly amazing and awesome how in such a setting they followed through that it was the 12-year old who was indeed right about it too lol, and that she nailed each of them for being the bastards they were in their hour of need.
LOL
TheOctodad
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It's basically the writers' way of saying, "Hey, notice how GRRM takes forever to make stuff happen, let's establish right now we're not going to fall into that trap. If you don't believe us, here's Varys on Dany's ship within 10 minutes of being in Dorne. Interpret the passage of time however you wish."
I think Varys had to be there, because all the pieces needed to be firmly in place. His presence told us that everything was finalized, and added to the context of that final scene with Dany and her ships.
In general, time is just kind of convoluted now. Cersei burns a bunch of important Tyrells alive, and then we suddenly see grandma Tyrell having tea in Dorne? No mourning? When did she even find out?
The writers have pretty much given themselves the liberty of letting the audience fill in the gaps. How many days, weeks between the Varys in Dorne scene and the Varys on a boat scene? Who knows? Maybe 10, maybe 20, maybe 60? It's up to our imaginations.
Someone else pointed out hat there are Tyrell ships as well in the final scene. The implication is they picked them up already.
In that they hoard knowledge, yes, but they also share it (hence eveyone having their own Maester) so they're not too similar.
Alpha Centauri
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The writers have pretty much given themselves the liberty of letting the audience fill in the gaps. How many days, weeks between the Varys in Dorne scene and the Varys on a boat scene? Who knows? Maybe 10, maybe 20, maybe 60? It's up to our imaginations.
Yep. The proper answer to all of those "how much time!?" questions is "enough". However much time feasibly needed is up to the viewer. To be honest, I'm ok with that.
Eklipsis
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Did they speed up sailing time and they already picked him up from Dorne?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think he will appear again. The entire story in Essos is over and all of the characters in Essos are either in Westeros (Arya) or on a boat to Westeros (Dany, Theon, Yara, Tyrion, Varys, Grey Worm, Missandei)
TimeEffect
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The high sparrows realization that he was played was so good. I need that gif
Calm waterfall
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OMFG this episode was everything, but i see declaring John as king of the north backfiring in the worst way.
From the Tommen suicide, to Arya killing the Freys, this episode was perfect. Although i will miss Dario. Also Cersi made the Tyrell´s her enemy. The alliance is going to crush the Lannisters. Jamie seems in disbelief in his sister´s actions. It´s her he probably will brake with her, especially after he killed the last king who tried to do the same thing.
I laughed so much at the queen of thrones treatment of the sand snakes, haha.
The soundtrack is sublime.
From the Tommen suicide, to Arya killing the Freys, this episode was perfect. Although i will miss Dario. Also Cersi made the Tyrell´s her enemy. The alliance is going to crush the Lannisters. Jamie seems in disbelief in his sister´s actions. It´s her he probably will brake with her, especially after he killed the last king who tried to do the same thing.
I laughed so much at the queen of thrones treatment of the sand snakes, haha.
The soundtrack is sublime.
Does anyone think that Daario staying behind, and Dany mentioning that Mereen and Dragon's Bay are now peaceful with the people on the verge of choosing their leaders, that this whole thing was a setup for an escape out of Westeros? I can't for the love of me fathom how the White Walkers can be stopped. Yes dragon glass and Valyrian steel kills the actual White Walkers, but with hundreds of thousands of dead zombies at their disposal, and an ability to raise the dead, the White Walkers never have to personally take to the field.
Jon killing one of them at Hardhome should never have happened. They could have all sat back and the result would have been the same. It was arrogance that caused it, and I doubt they'd make that same mistake.
Jon killing one of them at Hardhome should never have happened. They could have all sat back and the result would have been the same. It was arrogance that caused it, and I doubt they'd make that same mistake.
I think it might be more that he finds out how to do something like reproduce dragonglass / Valyrian steel so not just a few scatterred swords can do real damage to them. He already essentially knows how to defeat them, just not on a practical scale.
Lucian Cat
Kissed a mod for a tag; liked it
My face when widlfire and deaths
Solid episode.
My face when Tommen suicide
Solid episode.
Nope, he only wants to unite the North to take on the Night King, he had no ambitions of being a King.
DangerMouse
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I'd like it to be Arya too. I guess I'd be okay with it being Arya with a little help from Sansa if they want to do that so she gets some deserved revenge in the end too.
I agree though, I could see it being either of them at this point.
They already did make that same mistake when they personally attacked the Three Eyed Raven and it cost them another of their brothers.
Hopefully the process of Sam investigating the white walkers isn't carried out too long or they find a way to make him and Gilly more interesting. Guess it was a good break for this episode if nothing else with everything going down, but it really becomes a drag in the middle episodes.
Whoa, really? That's awesome.
So am I. It threw me off at first, but really, it's a perfectly valid approach. I can definitely see the necessity of it now that we're so close to the end game.
Fixed2BeBroken
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lol the way you talk about it, its almost like a videogame. but yea, what you're saying is on point. Dany/Khaleesi has got the most powerful cards in her hands
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