It was implied that he knew (or at least suspected) that Lyanna ran off with Rhaegar, as opposed to being kidnapped.
He would have no way of knowing that Jon was their child. Only two people ever knew and neither told anyone.
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It was implied that he knew (or at least suspected) that Lyanna ran off with Rhaegar, as opposed to being kidnapped.
He would have no way of knowing that Jon was their child. Only two people ever knew and neither told anyone.
Elysium-777
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I don't think there's any way for him to know. At most he would suspect that Jon isn't Ned's son, since even Stannis found it hard to believe that Ned would cheat on Cat.
He might have an idea about who Jon really is, but he has no proof.
You're right. Edited.
As long as everyone thinks he is Ned's bastard and lives at the wall, there is no need to act upon it.
But now when he is king it is an entirely different matter
Why does it need a pass? Ive never really heard any complaints outside of this forum.
Its been understood for a while that some timelines progress faster than others.
Elysium-777
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What else would his end game be? The ultimate prize in Westoros is the throne.
He of all peopel should know that the crown is a hollow prize. His ladder speech made me think he just wanted chaos and break up existing order. I much rather he just enjoy playing the game and screwing with all the big houses. Spelling out his ambitions like that isn't really him, but I guess Sansa is his big weakness and he is pretty much doomed now.
I think Frey made it on the list in the book. Anyways, my fiancé has a theory that I think is right. Verses stays alive cause Arya will be the one to kill her.
I feel like his motivations have been spelled out for years.
He's come from nothing and craves power and recognition. Cersei mocked him for creating his own sigil, Varys once warned that he would burn the Kingdom so he could rule the ashes.
There was probably a way to layer him better, but yeah, he wants to rule shit.
No book talk, but Walder Frey is definitely on the list here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRY4Mpmfk1o
The book has her talking about it (I think to Sansa).
Sickboy007
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I half expect Euron's cock to declare for Cersei after he's rebuffed by Dany. Not that the Iron Islands have ever mattered.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Im retroactively angry the rest of this series so frequently lacked the nuanced cinematography of this episode. So many episodes are just talking heads and exposition. This and the last had care for framing and scenes that tell story and build atmosphere without speaking.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
VenomousCoffee
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Benjen left Bran at the wall. It was in the establishing shot for that scene.
(Someone above asked this and it's been a point of confusion.)
(Someone above asked this and it's been a point of confusion.)
That was always the question to me.
He's always been a lesser Lord. He still doesn't have an army or group of loyal followers. He does have Robin's ear, but I dont think hes secured succession should Robin meet an untimely death.
For all he put into motion, hes still woefully unprepared to take what he wants.
MMBosstones86
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I love that he basically just dropped his ass off and left. A cripple and a young girl? Good luck guys.
TheLostBigBoss
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but for reals can we just keep this director for the rest of the series
dude knows what he's doing
dude knows what he's doing
Yeah really, who gives a shit what Euron does? Weird that everyone is ascribing such importance to him. He has been in what, 2 scenes? And at last check had no ships and his plan was usurped by Yara
Summer Haze
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This. No disrespect to the other directors that work on the show, but most other episodes feel cheap in comparison.
TimeEffect
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Any chance ghost and the dragon become friends?
Took the only horse too
Any chance we ever see ghost again? AWOL for jons most important battle, and his coronation
I think you misread the King of the North coordination scene.
Inglorious_ Man
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I want to see the Mountain fight a White Walker,that would be interesting.
TBF, the last two episodes obviously got the bulk of the budget put toward then. Lots of location shooting for battles and travel, lots of FX.
It's probably why they're cutting down the next two seasons.
I imagine he would get wrecked just like the Thenn
I guess we are going to see the Hound take a shot at least?
So it's not been mentioned in the show? Odd that they would reference it in the show otherwise. It's also kinda important as it explains Cersei's fatalist and cold attitude as well.
peteykirch
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Took a screen cap of the Zombie Mountain and ran it through Lightroom.
Holy hell he's creepy as hell, no wonder Unella was freaking out;
Holy hell he's creepy as hell, no wonder Unella was freaking out;
Sure, they'll show ghost again... when they kill him off.
wesleyshark
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It was implied last season that he does
UnObtainium17
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Took a screen cap of the Zombie Mountain and ran it through Lightroom.
Holy hell he's creepy as hell, no wonder Unella was freaking out;
And Cersei going "Shame!🔔!" X3 as she walsk out of the room was ruthless as hell.
Edit random thoughts: I think Arya isn't going to winterfell yet. The similarities of Arya and Cersei thats been showing recently tells me they will meet eventually. The Arya, Sansa and Jon reunion might not even happen.. That is toogood to be true.
YesNOnoNOYes
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She is Westeros' Daredevil.
wesleyshark
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It all depends on where you get stabbed.
Some people die when they get shot once. 50 Cent got shot 9 times. Weird, right?
In all seriousness, what's weird about the Arya scene is how it defies TV convention (even Game of Thrones conventions) by being more realistic. Most people easily survive stabbings in non-vital areas.
I guess they also get better health care than Arya did, though.
DukeLongfellow
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Let alone falling in dirty, contaminated, urine filled water with an open wound. For all the good things this season did, that episode and leaps of logic in it are not one of them.
Took a screen cap of the Zombie Mountain and ran it through Lightroom.
Holy hell he's creepy as hell, no wonder Unella was freaking out;
That's Darth Vader!
The soundtrack is already out. That track specifically is track 3, Light of the Seven.
BobTheFork
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Jesus, Cersei culled a third of the main cast with that explosion.
Even if recognized as the ruler, how far would she go. Probly not getting married and having another kid. No relatives now either. Who would even get the throne is she died?
Loved pretty much everything about this episode.
I think next season is the Dragon Armies prying Cersei out of power and getting rid of any resistance and then it's Walker time. All the interaction with the Winter army will just be giant battles and they aren't going to have 5-6 episodes of giant battles so they need to work on setting it up a bit.
Even if recognized as the ruler, how far would she go. Probly not getting married and having another kid. No relatives now either. Who would even get the throne is she died?
Loved pretty much everything about this episode.
I think next season is the Dragon Armies prying Cersei out of power and getting rid of any resistance and then it's Walker time. All the interaction with the Winter army will just be giant battles and they aren't going to have 5-6 episodes of giant battles so they need to work on setting it up a bit.
TheLostBigBoss
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sure, but it's not that much more expensive to have decent cinematography and interesting shots.
This director knows how to do interesting shot composition in ways we have not seen in this series.
YesNOnoNOYes
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lol omg
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