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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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Kenzodielocke
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Well, there is another big army that has no desire for a throne, but death.
Accurate?
Not really, Season 4 was as great as S1 to me.
ComputerBlue
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Oh, also, what are you guys hoping for the end of the show?
This may be a little sadistic of me, but I really hope we get some sort of sad, bittersweet, or ironic ending. I know it's nice for some people to get their Lord of the Rings style closing segments, where everything has a pretty bow on it, but I kind of hate happy endings. Something kinda dark (but with purpose) would make me incredibly happy.
This may be a little sadistic of me, but I really hope we get some sort of sad, bittersweet, or ironic ending. I know it's nice for some people to get their Lord of the Rings style closing segments, where everything has a pretty bow on it, but I kind of hate happy endings. Something kinda dark (but with purpose) would make me incredibly happy.
not really
Obliterator
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Accurate?
Personally I would give higher than that. Season 6 is my favorite. There were some slow moments but this one season had 3 of the best episodes in the history of this show. The Door, 9, and 10.
Also Season 1 isn't the best of the early seasons either
Seems like a graph made by someone who can't remember anything of the show besides that people think season 5 is bad.Accurate?
Accurate?
Maybe I'm crazy but season 4 is one of my favorites, although I really love all of them (but 5, and even that wasn't terrible) for their own reasons.
Genuinely surprised that there were people who misinterpreted the "KING OF THE NORTH!" scene with Sansa. She is fully behind Jon but got worried when she noticed Littlefinger's visibly unhappy face right after he had confessed to her that he wanted the throne and her. She knows exactly what LF can do and is (finally) wise enough to be worried about him.
It has been well established that the dothraki do the following things:
1.) Move as a horde
2.) Follow the most powerful person they can find
3.) Would need to see someone exceptionally powerful to follow across the salt sea (they cheered when Drogo said they would and they are doing it for Dany)
Their current actions fit within all of those parameters.
MegaSackman
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I want hope at the end but in a very desolated and heart crushing setting.
ComputerBlue
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Not at all...
Season 5 is slightly worse than all the others but this graph makes it out to be flat out horrible. Plus 4 is as good as 1-3, if not a bit better.
It's a weird complaint because it wasn't supposed to be a surprise. They started hinting at it from the start of the season with Bran's vision.
Obliterator
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I really hope this is the accurate interpretation. It makes much more sense for the characters. Plus we could get some Sansa vs Littlefinger mental warfare next Season over Jon
VenomousCoffee
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I've always had a problem with the show's repeated "crowds of brown people mindlessly kneel before Dany and do whatever she wants for some reason."
You could argue that the Dothraki also embody all the stuff Dany says she wants to end and that she also just forbade the Greyjoys from doing in the future after she takes King's Landing (raping and reaving). But, on the other hand, the Dothraki match the Targ part of Dany that wants to set fire to everyone who disagrees with her or just lives in a city she doesn't control yet, so maybe the contradiction makes sense in that way.
I think you misunderstood the King Of The North scene
She is loyal to Jon and is happy during that scene, but then she spots Littlefinger (who is pissed since he never expected the North to rally behind Jon) and immediately notices his expression.
She isn't schemin' - she has already recognized the next danger that lies ahead: Littlefinger
LyleLanley
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Mostly accurate for me. I'd put Season 6 still behind 1, 2, and 3... possibly 4 also. 6 had some great shit happen but I still mostly feel the writing isn't up to par with the first 4 seasons or so. 5 was wretched in writing and shit happening.
1 > 2 = 3 > 4 = 6 >>> 5
Nameless
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The series was anything but on the decline in S4, and S6 ended with its two best episodes ever. So no, not even remotely close to being accurate.
I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. She was into the moment and happy for Jon, but then saw Littlefinger being Littlefinger and started considering everything he had said. It was concern, and it was her thinking "Is Littlefinger right?" Littlefinger's been stoking that flame since he met Sansa earlier in the season, and pointedly reminded her that Jon is only her half-brother (actually cousin as it turns out, but whatevs).
broncobuster
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It's interesting how Cersei's expression watching the explosion is none too different from Sansa and Arya getting their revenge. Not to mention reveling in the method of revenge.
Yup. The IMDb ratings are a good guide.
MegaSackman
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I think 4 = 1, worst season so far is 2, 5 is not even close to that.
I want all the prophecy stuff to have been bullshit. No promised prince or anything of that nature, just man trying to fulfill a fake prophecy. White Walkers take out man and then live happily with the children of the forest.
Exactly. Sansa betraying Jon here makes 0 sense.
VenomousCoffee
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Moff
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absolutely not, season 4 was way better than 3 and especially 2
Obliterator
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I didn't misunderstand it. That's also what I think it means but there are people theorizing that Sansa will betray him. I'm just commenting I don't want it to go down that way
I guess it's been a few years but I don't remember anything that awful about 2, but I'm probably due for a rewatch before season 7. Five definitely had it's highlights but it felt a bit stagnant at times.
TimeEffect
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Yes, but to drop everything about their culture for a foreigner? To cross the sea?
You would think one of their thoughts also include "this person is clearly a demon". Yet they all choose to drop their customs and follow her to a strange land.
It just feels so half baked. I fully hope to see the Dothraki become more than a good guy version of the White Walkers. In fact, White Walkers are probably better since they dont seem to rape anyone.
Dothraki are just this big faceless horde, yet I am sure there is nuance and differences between the many Dothraki.
We dont know their motivation or their personal gains. They just happily do Dany's bidding. They had no real reason to drop everything and go. It's not like there was a giant identity crisis with the Dothraki or a desperate need to find leadership, right? It seems they are multi-faceted with a bunch of different tribes. Are there any Dothraki left in the East?
They are also rapists and misogynistic. How can they fit into Westeros when they will just want to rape and kill?
Not even remotely.
Nameless
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Opinions, but I couldn't disagree more. S2 was fantastic and features many of the show's high points.
There's a lot of room between betrayal and her agreeing with him on everything going forward.
VenomousCoffee
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IMO, 2's main problem is that it has too many parts, moving too slowly. Not much happens except for Blackwater Bay, which is awesome.
Correct.
I just bought a new sound bar and coming from TV speakers I was filled with joy hearing how amazing and epic the opening felt. Definitely hit the right notes
The only people that are suggesting that Sansa's look at Littlefinger suggests that Sansa is betraying Jon are the people that have problems reading facial expressions and situational context.
i.e. People with low social empathy.
It was a total - 'well... this is awkward' look.
Me too. In here HBO Brazil broadcasts it live and an hour later replays it, and i insta-rewatched both these episodes.
Welcome to Dany's storyline, where everything is both taking way too long and going way too fast.
The Wall is imbued with magic meant to keep the Walkers at bay. Benjen was saved by the Children the same way they created the Walkers, so apparently he must abide the same rules and the magic within the Wall keeps him from crossing. I wonder if Bran crossing over could potentially leave the Wall vulnerable, though.
I disagree. I don't see Sansa being in a place of mind to worry about power politics just yet. She's finally reunited with a friendly, familiar face who she can actually trust without playing games. She's not thinking about burning that bridge because she suddenly is power hungry. I mean, it could happen but I would say it makes no sense at all and would be hands down the stupidest twist in the entire series.
Perhaps that's it. Maybe I'm just an inherently patient person, but generally the slower pacing of the show doesn't bother me. Season 5's pacing had different issues, though, more so than it simply being slow at times.
To me I see Dany as a person who wishes to change the "old ways". In my opinion that includes what the Dothraki stand for (including the raping and pillaging). As for their motivations, they've always been about following the strongest leader. For someone like Dany to show up that has dragons and takes control of slavers bay... she's done what other Dothraki can only dream of accomplishing. That's why I imagine they're following her.
This was really good.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Guys, his name is Miguel Sapochnik. Remember his name because he's directed three of the best episodes the last two seasons (including last season's best, Hardhorne).
Awesome all of you. Thank you.
And just to clarify, Jon Stark's mother giving birth to Jon mean he is a Targaryen (sp)?
And final question, Margaery isn't dead right? It was all a dream?
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