It still doesn't make sense that the Sparrows blocked the doors, like why hold people there against their wills? Not very Godly.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT PART 2| Season 6 - [Read the OP]
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Probably. A lot of the theory naming crosses over it seems. Personally I watched through season 1 without any real internet interaction since I was a bit late to it and Jon's lineage was kinda obvious to me at that point.
Yeah, how did she not see coming that Cersei would destroy the Sept of Baelor with wildfire that nobody knew about?
Considering the size of the explosion it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Forced? Literally, the scene before revealed Jon Snow to be of high born blood. Perhaps the highest born of all. His dad was the rightful future king and his mother came from the oldest line of monarchs in Westeros.
The noble houses of the North were left in shambles. Their lords slaughtered and family structures turned on their heads. They were arguing with no sense of direction in that room. What they needed was unity and Lyanna Mormont reminded them all exactly what was always Northern tradition for thousand of years for all the Northern houses to reliably unite behind... the recognition of the one King who's name is stark.
She appeared to say the baby's name, and that Robert would kill it if he found out. Which would directly imply it's the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar, Robert's sworn enemy (whom Robert had just personally killed in battle shortly before this).
Amazing scene, and amazing acting by all parties.
The humility and .. almost child like behavior by Snow is striking. He is shocked at first by the allegiance ... and then turns towards Sansa almost asking for permission.
you can tell he is still feeling the stigma of having been treated like a near worthless bastard by his own family all these years (foreshadowed by his comment about family feasts with Mel earlier).
And then the stare from LF "told you so", basically implying that he is still trying to push her to go dark and turn against Jon (which he may already have started her on the path of). Then Sansa looks back, in a stare of "Oh shit LF is up to something" or "Oh crap maybe he was right and I'm going to have to fight my brother if I want Winterfell and the North for myself".
I really really hope it's option 1 and not #2...
- They started the battle outnumbered nearly 3 to 1
- He didn't actually gave the order to charge, screwing their battle plan. It was Davos and Tormund (though they did save his life). So he isn't actually as battlefield daft as implied by many, but he showed incredible honor and bravery by trying to save his brother.
- He actually was at the forefront of the battle with his troops, shedding blood, and fighting incredibly well
- After everything, he still accepted a 1 on 1 with Ramsay (he could have had him executed on the spot) and won, after going through an incredibly exhausting battle
- Everybody is probably wondering why Sansa showed up with surprise Vale knights reinforcements. Jon knows it's because she didn't trust him with his wildling troops and hid it deliberately from him, Davos, Mormont and Tormund in what could pass for a politically motivated move.
- Lady Mormont seems to favor battlefield prowess and experience fighting the Wights vs staying in the back doing politics, to lead men in a war against the White Walkers?
I really wish Margaery had been able to slip out and survive. Her death made a lot of things that have happened before seem a little pointless almost. Though I guess if she survived Tommen wouldn't have jumped out a window and then Cersei wouldn't have the throne, so it needed to happen. But still, Margaery's character arc feels so incomplete to me.
Reaction videos where people know they are being filmed are cringey 99.9% of the time. Burlington Bar have some good ones but there's usually a few people closest to the camera that have their "reaction face" on all the time.
From Littlefinger's perspective of realizing the 'image in his head' though, what purpose would it serve to have Sansa fight Jon over control of the North? Wouldn't it be better if Jon ruled Winterfell as an actual ALLY of Sansa, who would be free to go with littlefiner and conquer King's Landing?
Not what i'm talking about.
I mean her plan to save her brother by empowering absurdly the Sparrow was fucking shit.
See above.
Not the bad decision i'm talking about.
I think they said they were going to do a twist with the whole Tower of Joy thing. Maybe Rhaegar really isn't the father? Seems like it would be too obvious now, but who else's baby could it be? And why would Bob Baratheon want to kill it? Aerys' son?
chicko1983
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I only watch the show and some youtube analysis videos aimed at tv show viewers.
I came across the theory in a youtube video, similarly to other theories which are looking more and more likely, so I wont repeat them.
But Im sure that there are some genuine tv only fans (with no youtube videos), who have heard of the theory from a friend or in this thread.
Its crap that some of the book readers post in here and think they are not spoiling anything by saying a "theory", but it ruins the enjoyment 10x.
The other thing I hate is people who call it "The Tower of Joy" seeing as that has never been mentioned in the tv show by that name.
Next year, I am not going to peak in this thread. The show was much more enjoyable before I came in here and was given away a few surprises based on some people's "theories".
He'd want to kill Jon because he loved Lyanna and having her Targaryen son around is not only a reminder that she didn't actually love him but the true heir to The Iron Throne is there is bad news for him.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
With the magic of editing.
The scenes are separated by more time than it seems
Could be wrong, but there's reason to believe that scene occurs months later. Time in this show is so weird.
Months passed.
Not every event happens at the same time. Weeks and such can pass between events.
Vulcano's assistant
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there were also Dorne ships among the fleet.
CountAntonius
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Being that there were Tyrell and Dorne ships with them I imagine they passed by and picked him up along with the other armies. We don't know how much time passed.
I don't understand why he loved Lyanna so much. Wasn't it a political marriage to align Baratheon and Stark?
They'll probably meet his fleet along the way, and then begin a battle which will encompass all of season 7 and half of season 8.
Nameless
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He will offer them to Cersei.
What an episode!
Cersei being a savage, Arya being a savage (get fucking rekt Filch), Sansa showing some love for Jon, Little Mormont being the best hypeman since Davos, THE FUCKING KING IN THE NORTH*, Jon Targayren confirmed. That's how you finish a season.
*Fuck off Jon. I like you but there was only true king in the north m8. Get your own title.
Cersei being a savage, Arya being a savage (get fucking rekt Filch), Sansa showing some love for Jon, Little Mormont being the best hypeman since Davos, THE FUCKING KING IN THE NORTH*, Jon Targayren confirmed. That's how you finish a season.
*Fuck off Jon. I like you but there was only true king in the north m8. Get your own title.
He's still polishing his knob for Dany,
I dont get people that get stuck on the time variances.
Unless character cross paths, they're not nessesarily showing you concurrent events. It's just that simple.
Danys story is her journey to Westeros, not Jon's or Cersi's.
Ollena in Dorn is obviously months after Cersi being crowned, regardless if we're shown the ceremony after.
Unless character cross paths, they're not nessesarily showing you concurrent events. It's just that simple.
Danys story is her journey to Westeros, not Jon's or Cersi's.
Ollena in Dorn is obviously months after Cersi being crowned, regardless if we're shown the ceremony after.
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Why does he wear the mask!?
Elysium-777
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I can see this happening, though he'll have to have a pretty good counter for the Dragons.
Did they actually show her blowing up? It would be kind of goofy but if they can bring back the Hound...
I mean, so was Dany and Drogo or Cat and Ned, sometimes people end up loving each other even if it was all political. Robert ended up going to war just because he loved her so much but she didn't feel the same way about him.
You have wonder, though, did Ned not realize her sister didn't love Robert? Did he go to war under some false pretences and when he saw his sister asking him to promise to protect Jon, did he realize sending his sister off to Robert would actually be a huge disservice to her?
She didn't even make it out of that circle, all The Sparrows made sure no one left and even if she did, everyone who was even near there died.
darkwing-buck
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When cersei doesn't turn up to the trial.
I think it was also about what Aerys did to his father and brother though, not just Lyanna.
Maklershed
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They did a poor job of showing the passage of time in this specific case. They generally make a point of doing so and when it doesn't happen it's confusing.
It doesn't, really, but everyone outside got killed too. She wiped out like a whole block
Yeah, that's what I mean by some false pretences.
iRAWRasaurus
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For her beauty only. Lyanna knew he would never be faithful.
I mean, who else is even gonna be fit for marrying? All powerful men in Westeros are dead.
Sho_Nuff82
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Ned and Robert were best friends since they were kids, so he probably got to know her well. She was also apparently beautiful, which automatically made her Robert's type. She's one of the few noblewomen in the kingdom Robert didn't shag in his lifetime, Rhaegar ran off with her like Bowser in Mario bros during their engagement, and so I think he convinced himself that she was "the one that got away". Which ironically poisoned his marriage to Cersei, who wasn't a bad catch at all at the time.
All noble marriages are political in some way.
I mean, her parents were brother and sister so nothing new there. It's the Targaryen way
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neoism
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When cersei doesn't turn up to the trial.
sad shes gone.. tomman couldn't handle it lol but she was nice to see on screen... :*(
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