I agree. In my mind he was always Sean Connery.
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I agree. In my mind he was always Sean Connery.
What the hell?
What would you have done in that situation?
Your son, your FUCKING KING, has just been basically murdered, you are the last one standing, you know you're fucked.
I wouldn't be thinking rationally, all I would care about is my son's and my own safety.
Cat saw the entire Stark war-force destroyed in a matter of seconds.
Her last thoughts before death must have been harrowing to say the least.
Sadly I wasn't that surprised by this whole development...Robb betraying Frey, alienating (and killing) Karstark, trusting Bolton...and then Melisandre putting a curse on him on top of that?!? Yeah, his death was just a matter of time. He was too much like his father.
And since Catelyn was with him and the focus seems to be shifting more and more on the younger generation of the houses, I didn't expect her to last much longer either. I somehow expect Tywin to bite the ground soon as well.
And I already expected something BIG to happen in another Episode 9. They should really change that policy next season, it's becoming way too predictable.
The beheading of Ned was a much bigger surprise to me.
And since Catelyn was with him and the focus seems to be shifting more and more on the younger generation of the houses, I didn't expect her to last much longer either. I somehow expect Tywin to bite the ground soon as well.
And I already expected something BIG to happen in another Episode 9. They should really change that policy next season, it's becoming way too predictable.
The beheading of Ned was a much bigger surprise to me.
I just meant the contrast between the mercy of her kids and what she did is incredibly powerful. Her mind is destroyed and all she has is rage. Can you imagine Arya killing an (relatively) innocent person? This is how broken Cat is.
Yup. But I also think that it was indeed the likely and most realistic end to Robb's war for the North, because he made several key strategic blunders leading up to this and of course his most major blunder being what he did with Talisa which, frankly, if he was serious about this stuff, should have been bedded and not wedded.
The question I always wonder about is this: Would Walder Frey have betrayed Robb in the end even if he didn't break his oath? The man has never been honorable, that much is obvious. Sneering over his underage brides and not giving a shit if Catelyn slashed his wife's throat. Fucked up.
Oh, a few other details that come to mind:
Cat's Uncle (Blackfish?) said he was going out to find a tree to piss on RIGHT before the killing started. Was he killed on camera or could he be the sole survivor?
Jon didn't kill the Eagle, so this could mean the Warg Wildling is still out there hunting him in Eagle form.
Did Talissa (Robb's wife) manage to send off her letter? If she did, this means that her relatives heard she was pregnant and then are going to hear she was murdered by the Freys. That's probably vendetta-starting.
Cat's Uncle (Blackfish?) said he was going out to find a tree to piss on RIGHT before the killing started. Was he killed on camera or could he be the sole survivor?
Jon didn't kill the Eagle, so this could mean the Warg Wildling is still out there hunting him in Eagle form.
Did Talissa (Robb's wife) manage to send off her letter? If she did, this means that her relatives heard she was pregnant and then are going to hear she was murdered by the Freys. That's probably vendetta-starting.
She gave her word though, in an attempt to save her son's life.
They've used it before in the show?
Summer and Shaggydog
What about them? That they split up?
Let's be real. Robb did the backstabbing first and paid the ultimate price for it.
I don't know if what Robb did could be called "back"stabbing, but it was definitely stabbing of a sort
Discotheque
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could have sworn tyrion's said it multiple times in the show before.
90TilInfinity
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He is, but he also had his son's wife gang-raped in front of him.
RyougaSaotome
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Jeezus fucking christ. I was not expecting any of that.
The multiple stabs really got me. That shit was beyond fucked up.
The multiple stabs really got me. That shit was beyond fucked up.
HyruleGuardian
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Damn, that hurt.
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But I'm not giving up on the Starks.
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Arya
Bran
Sansa
Jon
There is still hope for the Starks.
And if all else fails, there's still Rickon.
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But I'm not giving up on the Starks.
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Arya
Bran
Sansa
Jon
There is still hope for the Starks.
And if all else fails, there's still Rickon.
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lmao at those flunkies. especially sansa and bran.
reasons why rickon will be the savior of the family:
1. he's leaving bran and hodor and setting off with that igor looking tonks from harry potter. she's a former wildling and will not hesitate to teach him the brutality of the world they live in
2. his wolf, shaggydog is the meanest motherfucker in the family
3. he's probably spent the least amount of time with his father eddard, and probably remembers very little of him. the rest of the starks still either practice that dumb sense of morality or at least recall it
RICKON WILL RETURN. the bringer of rain. carrying only vengeance and hate in his heart. etc.
Reading this thread after watching the episode this the most hilarious horrible thing:
Thanks to that cuntbucket who came in here last week and spoiled Robb dying I'd managed to guess Frey and Bolton would betray him. But I'd hoped Cat would live. She's made some mistakes but she was such a motherly figure.
The way she tried to bargain with them at the end was just heartbreaking.
Thanks to that cuntbucket who came in here last week and spoiled Robb dying I'd managed to guess Frey and Bolton would betray him. But I'd hoped Cat would live. She's made some mistakes but she was such a motherly figure.
The way she tried to bargain with them at the end was just heartbreaking.
I was expecting some kind of blow, but that was really gut wrenching. I didn't expect there to be that many losses on the Stark side though.
I was kind of expecting that Robb might be killed, but only because the actor is starring as Prince Charming in that Disney movie. That made me question Robb being alive that much longer.
I was kind of expecting that Robb might be killed, but only because the actor is starring as Prince Charming in that Disney movie. That made me question Robb being alive that much longer.
1. I think blackfish will be a survivor or taken prisoner or something. He said he'd find a tree meaning he'd leave the castle. He probably saw them lock it up or attack the Stark men and fled or he died. I'm hoping he lives, I need someone who was loyal to the Starks to be alive.
2. He killed the Orell guy who controls the eagle. I think right before he died he warged into the eagle to kill Jon. I don't know if once his body died, he could live in the eagle?
3. Oh I'm pretty sure everyone in Westeros, possibly Essos will talk about this. It basically means the Lannisters have won and secured most of the Kingdom. Forget Stannis, after Blackwater, he's just an old man in a castle burning prisoners at the advice of some heretic priestess. Balon Greyjoy is some old loon in a ship raiding sea villages.
Now Tywin has basically secured the South with the Tyrells and soon to be Cersei wedding, secured the North, I think he's securing the Vale with the Littlefinger wedding to Lysa Arryn, and all that is left is like Riverrun, which will surely go to Lord Bolton or someone. Maybe Edmure got Frey's daughter pregnant before they kill him or something.
After this episode, I wouldn't say that. This motherfucker can control other people. That could come in super handy.
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i was kinda hoping they would play this song right when the credits hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snoz8Ds6trU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snoz8Ds6trU
The best the remaining Starks can hope for is getting somewhere safe and staying alive. Their family is done. Their armies are destroyed, their eldest brother and mother are dead, and their home is burned to the ground. And individually?
Bran: Headed North, where wildlings and an ice zombie apocalypse are waiting. Has the advantages of no one knowing he's alive and having superpowers.
Jon Snow: Similar situation to Bran. Just pissed off his one ally among the wildlings. Knows nothing.
Sansa: Married to Tyrion. Miserable. Rightful lady of Winterfell, which doesn't mean much anymore. Too naive and innocent to really be a player.
Arya: Stuck with the Hound. She's got her magic "go become an assassin" coin, but she needs to find someone from Bravos(?) to use it.
Rickon: Left his brother with Osha to hopefully find some friendly people to keep him safe (which as we all know isn't guaranteed). Basically useless.
As much as I'd love to see the remaining Starks roll into King's Landing like the Avengers and get the big payback, it ain't happening. I just hope they stay safe.
Bran: Headed North, where wildlings and an ice zombie apocalypse are waiting. Has the advantages of no one knowing he's alive and having superpowers.
Jon Snow: Similar situation to Bran. Just pissed off his one ally among the wildlings. Knows nothing.
Sansa: Married to Tyrion. Miserable. Rightful lady of Winterfell, which doesn't mean much anymore. Too naive and innocent to really be a player.
Arya: Stuck with the Hound. She's got her magic "go become an assassin" coin, but she needs to find someone from Bravos(?) to use it.
Rickon: Left his brother with Osha to hopefully find some friendly people to keep him safe (which as we all know isn't guaranteed). Basically useless.
As much as I'd love to see the remaining Starks roll into King's Landing like the Avengers and get the big payback, it ain't happening. I just hope they stay safe.
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you're thinking of "a Lannister always pays his debts"
Yeah, but 3: I was referring more to the fact that she was writing her parents about the unborn child. Hearing Robb and wife died in war is one thing, but kid-killing tends to put people into a rage, especially if it were your unborn grandchild.
But yeah, this means the Lannisters win the war. Though I wonder what Littlefinger is up to. For that matter, what Loras is going to do when he snaps from being treated second-class.
As for Edmure...
I'm watching again right now, Frey gives Robb a look right as Roslyn looks at him as well. As if to say, "asshole, I was giving you my prettiest daughter to be queen and you fucking blew your chance"...
and the more I think about it, the more I blame Robb. If had just done his duty, like most people in this land/time, he'd be alive, he'd have a very pretty/sweet wife, his men would be with him, he'd have double the army he does now, Karstark probably wouldn't have betrayed him.
Remember, if he didn't leave with Lady Talisa, most likely his mom wouldn't have sent Brienne to free Jaime and maybe he'd have calmed Karstark down who was further upset that Robb doesn't do his duty. He said it, "you were off gallivanting with that foreign bitch", and "you lost this war the day you married her" etc.
What is love in this world? it's hard to think from a 21st century perspective of true love, etc. But did Lady Catelyn love Ned any less because it was arranged? What good did it ultimately do? Talisa died, her family back in Volantis probably going to be heartbroken. Robb is dead, his mother is dead, his bannermen are dead. Bolton wouldn't have dared betray Robb if he still had the Karstark and Frey army with him.
Maybe I'm just trying to rationalize it all because I can't understand it. Robb and the Stark's dream didn't only die today, but mine as well.
I went crazy with all this shit in my mind of battles, maybe he'll be King, Catelyn and Arya meeting up at Riverrun, maybe trying to rebuild her family etc.
and the more I think about it, the more I blame Robb. If had just done his duty, like most people in this land/time, he'd be alive, he'd have a very pretty/sweet wife, his men would be with him, he'd have double the army he does now, Karstark probably wouldn't have betrayed him.
Remember, if he didn't leave with Lady Talisa, most likely his mom wouldn't have sent Brienne to free Jaime and maybe he'd have calmed Karstark down who was further upset that Robb doesn't do his duty. He said it, "you were off gallivanting with that foreign bitch", and "you lost this war the day you married her" etc.
What is love in this world? it's hard to think from a 21st century perspective of true love, etc. But did Lady Catelyn love Ned any less because it was arranged? What good did it ultimately do? Talisa died, her family back in Volantis probably going to be heartbroken. Robb is dead, his mother is dead, his bannermen are dead. Bolton wouldn't have dared betray Robb if he still had the Karstark and Frey army with him.
Maybe I'm just trying to rationalize it all because I can't understand it. Robb and the Stark's dream didn't only die today, but mine as well.
I went crazy with all this shit in my mind of battles, maybe he'll be King, Catelyn and Arya meeting up at Riverrun, maybe trying to rebuild her family etc.
He did. Just not that head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZc1W_--Vps
Sums it up perfectly. It's the guy who plays Tywin (Charles Dance) in Last Action Hero talking about the real world lol. Might as well imagine him talking about Westeros to Robb Stark or something.
Sums it up perfectly. It's the guy who plays Tywin (Charles Dance) in Last Action Hero talking about the real world lol. Might as well imagine him talking about Westeros to Robb Stark or something.
You know, im not one of those who cried or went all "FUCK THIS SHOW" after yesterday's episode, but i cant stop thinking about this scene. It was so brutal and well done that i'll probably remember it for a long time. That dead look on Catelyn's face when she saw her son dies(and before she was actually killed) was just too much after everything that happened(the stabbing on the pregnant belly was already.. ugh). They were given no mercy.
I hope Frey and Bolton dies a horrible horrible death. They should be the ones in that torture room, not Theon.
I hope Frey and Bolton dies a horrible horrible death. They should be the ones in that torture room, not Theon.
Getting fucked up. Fucked right up the ass.
Shit is so bleak for them right now. They're good people, but they ain't about this life. The Game of Thrones doesn't care about your honor.
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Well, it's not like I didn't see something like that happening, but it was still a bit shocking. Even though I was rooting for Robb, there's actually few people I'm not rooting for, lol. The exceptions are Melissandre, that fat retard in the woods ("I can read, I'm a wizard!") and Joffrey. Now I hope Littlefinger goes on a mad killing spree, that Arya gets a dragon and that fedora-Jorah, fabio-daario and dragon-lady have a threesome.
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