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[Funky Papa]

And how is he the strongest Warg? That other guy had far more control over his warging power.

Other wargs can't warg into people, only animals. Jojen was freaked out when he saw Bran getting isnde Hodor's head.

Also, I hope Theon's dad gets his comeuppance. I know the Lannisters have plot armour ATM, but the Greyjoys seem like an expendable bunch whose only talent is to be a nuisance. Time for somebody to ruin their shit.

 

[lastplayed]

Kinda funny when you look at the UK map

The wild north and the Wall

Richard III's power base was in the North. He was almost "Lord of the North" at one point. Fucking over his brothers, declaring the true heirs to the throne illegitimate and seizing the throne himself was his downfall.

 

[Zeliard]

Man, Jaime used to be so awesome. Now He's just a cripple babby. RIP

He can still smack people upside the head with his good hand.

 

[RedShift]

Winterfell = York (obvs)
Riverlands = Wales (Kind of part of the 7 kingdoms but not one of them really)
Land beyond the wall = Scotland (Troublemaking redheads hidden behind a wall)
Iron Islands = Vikings/Cornwall
Harrenhall = Birmingham (Smoky burnt ruin)
Highgarden = Brighton (Very accepting of the LGBT community)
Casterly Rock = Forest of Dean or Norwich (Incest)

 

[lastplayed]

Winterfell = York (obvs)
Riverlands = Wales (Kind of part of the 7 kingdoms but not one of them really)
Land beyond the wall = Scotland (Troublemaking redheads hidden behind a wall)
Iron Islands = Vikings/Cornwall
Harrenhall = Birmingham (Smoky burnt ruin)
Highgarden = Brighton (Very accepting of the LGBT community)
Casterly Rock = Forest of Dean or Norwich (Incest)

Daenerys = Henry Tudor? An outcast returning with dragon banners to save England from itself.

 

[Jonogunn]

Man, Jaime used to be so awesome. Now He's just a cripple babby. RIP

He can still call on his daddy

 

[ChosenPredator]

just saw the episode gat damn man lol

 

[jaxword]

The dude who kills Cat gives zero fucks.

Can someone versed in the Lore give us a rundown of who killed who?

Which of Frey's sons did what deed?

Obviously don't answer with book-only stuff, but I think the killing characters have all been named.

Bolton killed Robb.
The two Frey boys killed Cat and Robb's wife (Talissa?) but I don't know their names.

 

[red731]

The dude who kills Cat gives zero fucks.

He truly didn't

That was a brighter side of the whole massacre.

 

[Phonomezer]

Perhaps Bran can warg into Joffrey and walk off a cliff.

 

[Niwa]

I've just started this series last week and am already at the latest episode, and so far I've never been as amazed by any kind of film-form as with this series. The conclusion of last episode had me utterly shocked, it hit me totally off-guard.. I'm fucking sad now.

Well I also didn't think that the Lannisters could kill Eddard 2 times.

 

[Zeliard]

Can someone versed in the Lore give us a rundown of who killed who?

Which of Frey's sons did what deed?

Obviously don't answer with book-only stuff, but I think the killing characters have all been named.

Bolton killed Robb.
The two Frey boys killed Cat and Robb's wife (Talissa?) but I don't know their names.

Lame Lothar Frey stabbed Talisa, Black Walder Frey killed Cat

 

[Madness]

Fuck.

Everybody wins!

Except the Starks. They are nothing but routinely fucked.

Damn you're right. That guy when he found out they were alive his face changed. And he said it after to, that Theon did tell him something useful that he found out they are alive, he even said something that he's a better hunter.

They just can't catch a break at all. They better not fucking kill Rickon.

 

[Madness]

Well I also didn't think that the Lannisters could kill Eddard 2 times.

Sorry for double post lol.

 

[RedShift]

Argh so annoyed. This shitty free newspaper in the UK has been running a huge picture of Cat getting her throat cut on page 3 and ruined the whole surprise.

I had a friend who was coming around later to watch it, I texted her telling her to avoid the Metro but it was too late. She loved Robb as well, I was looking forward to her reaction

 

[EatChildren]

Damn you're right. That guy when he found out they were alive his face changed. And he said it after to, that Theon did tell him something useful that he found out they are alive, he even said something that he's a better hunter.

They just can't catch a break at all. They better not fucking kill Rickon.

"So, let's play a game. Which body part do you need the least?"
"Please."
"Please is not a body part."
"I'll tell you everything, please."
"But...you've already told me everything. Remember? Your daddy was was mean to you. The Starks didn't appreciate you. One good bit though...the Stark boys...they're still alive. Wouldn't that be a hunt to remember? You failed, but...I'm a better hunter than you."

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Nah.

Red Wedding definitely is unlike anything in The War of the Roses, it was based on some massacres in Scottish history apparently. Pretty sure there was nothing like the questioning of Joeffrey's heritage either.

I think GRRM said the two biggest historical influences were the War of the Roses and the Hundred Years War but it won't be identical to either at all. The Starks and the Lannisters aren't rival branches of the same family for a start like the Yorks and Lancasters were.

I see a lot of similarities to stories of the Roman Empire too. Can't think of any direct examples but I remember thinking "that's just like GoT" more than once

 

[Creamium]

Argh so annoyed. This shitty free newspaper in the UK has been running a huge picture of Cat getting her throat cut on page 3 and ruined the whole surprise.

What? That's incredibly lame, especially this close to the original airing. Was it this?

 

[RedShift]

What? That's incredibly lame, especially this close to the original airing.

Yeah it aired about 36 hours ago in the UK. And catchup services like Sky Go and DVRs are used a lot here, especially for a show like this.

 

[Raist]

The dude who kills Cat gives zero fucks.

Yeah. The whole RW thing was really nicely done, but that particular bit was really poorly delivered.

 

[Creamium]

Yeah it aired about 36 hours ago in the UK. And catchup services like Sky Go and DVRs are used a lot here, especially for a show like this.

So stupid. At least use a general/generic pic and discuss the episode in the article, warning the readers of course.

Do you have the paper still? Can you take a pic of it?

 

[RedShift]

So stupid. At least use a general/generic pic and discuss the episode in the article, warning the readers of course.

Do you have the paper still? Can you take a pic of it?

Nah I didn't read it, but they have this one on their website so I presume this was it

This is a free newspaper as well, they have piles of them on buses/trains for people to pick up and read.

 

[NathanMcMahon]

Yeah. The whole RW thing was really nicely done, but that particular bit was really poorly delivered.

nah, it was great

 

[Des0lar]

Well people could think she is only held ransom or something.

 

[TheContact]

Interesting Quote from GRMM about Ned and Robb dying from that article:

‘I killed Ned because everybody thinks he’s the hero and that, sure, he’s going to get into trouble, but then he’ll somehow get out of it,’ he told Entertainment Weekly.

‘The next predictable thing is to think his eldest son is going to rise up and avenge his father. And everybody is going to expect that. So immediately [killing Robb] became the next thing I had to do.’

 

[Metalmurphy]

Interesting Quote from GRMM about Ned and Robb dying from that article:

So basically, everything we expect in the future, the opposite will happen.

Deneris to be killed by a slave.

 

[Zeliard]

Jorah to get some dragonlady ass.

 

[Raist]

nah, it was great

I'm specifically talking about the long pause on Cat, dude walking in the camera FOV kind of nonchalantly and out of nowhere, like "hey I just saw some light in here, s'up?", slitting throat, walking way to take a piss or something.

I dunno, it struck me as an odd anticlimax.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Those are fan art of the book versions. Dunno why he posted them. lol

Catelyn was way hotter and younger in the books

 

[adamsapple]

Interesting Quote from GRMM about Ned and Robb dying from that article:

whelp ..

so much for Jon Snow.

 

[Persona86]

Interesting Quote from GRMM about Ned and Robb dying from that article:

Good, trying to be original.

 

[kellycandthedragons]

So basically, everything we expect in the future, the opposite will happen.

Deneris to be killed by a slave.

I don't think he meant that. He just meant he doesn't want to tell the typical story. I think rather than assuming that we should guess opposites, we should try to wonder how this would work out if these characters were real. And in real life, the underdog often gets trampled on. Revenge and justice aren't always served up in a nice, neat little package. If it comes, it comes later. Like with Varys. I stand by what I said earlier. What he said to Tyrion applies to us.

The revenge you want will be yours in time...if you have the stomach for it.

Don't expect the typical story conventions and you may just make it through with your sanity.

 

[nubbe]

Everyone that knows about Snows mother are dead

 

[Enco]

Wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the series only a few characters remain.

Arya and Daeneris are the only ones I have a feeling will be safe.

I wouldn't mind that. Jon Snow would also be nice to have at the end. The Starks and Dany are the only people I care for.

 

[Des0lar]

Everyone that knows about Snows mother are dead

We don't know if she is dead aswell right? So there's that

 

[Mael]

I guess one big difference is that late medieval England had crude guns and cannons. You'd think with an element like wildfire they'd have super-duper projectile weapons by now.

Isn't wildfire something more akin to greek fire then again it doesn't seem to be like it at all.
But that certainly put an wild impression on the opponents I guess....

 

[xenist]

Don't expect the typical story conventions and you may just make it through with your sanity.

People are overselling this about GRRM. Not being afraid to go where the story takes him does not mean he's not following typical story conventions. He's not afraid to take things to very brutal conclusions but he (and Benioff and Weiss), so far, have everything set up properly. If you know what to look for, you know what's coming in broad strokes.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Everyone that knows about Snows mother are dead

And how do you know that exactly?

 

[nubbe]

And how do you know that exactly?

Besides Robert, Ned and Catelyn who knows?

 

[RangerX]

I felt really sorry for Walder Freys wife. She seemed so innocent. Still, excellant acting by Michelle Fairley. I can't wait for the next episode!

 

[Mael]

Besides Robert, Ned and Catelyn who knows?

Huh actually doesn't only Robert and Ned know the truth in the matter?
Who cares they're all dead anyway?

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I'm specifically talking about the long pause on Cat, dude walking in the camera FOV kind of nonchalantly and out of nowhere, like "hey I just saw some light in here, s'up?", slitting throat, walking way to take a piss or something.

I dunno, it struck me as an odd anticlimax.

It was shot to look unceremonious and almost humiliating. Frey calls her bluff (or doesnt give a fuck about it, really) and she's already dead. She was being dispatched as an afterthought.

 

[Vashetti]

The point of the last shot was to show that Cat already died before her throat was slit.

There was no hope, no joy, no nothing left in her.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Besides Robert, Ned and Catelyn who knows?

Well Catelyn never knew. Robert thought he did, Ned just dismissed him. Jon's parentage is interesting subject as stated by the show-runners numerous times.

 

[NathanMcMahon]

It was shot to look unceremonious and almost humiliating. Frey calls her bluff (or doesnt give a fuck about it, really) and she's already dead. She was being dispatched as an afterthought.

The point of the last shot was to show that Cat already died before her throat was slit.

There was no hope, no joy, no nothing left in her.

yup and yup.

 

[GungHo]

Yeah. Like an internship with Varys.

I'd watch that show.

The Magnificent Bastards - A Boardwalk Empire-style Medieval crime drama featuring Varys, Theon, Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, Omar Little, Mickey Doyle, Al Capone, Vic Mackey, Boyd Crowder, Pope Alexander VI, and Lionel Luther.

 

[UrbanRats]

Interesting Quote from GRMM about Ned and Robb dying from that article:

Drogo was presented as the main villain, so i guess there's a similar reasoning behind his death, too?


Arya and Jon under FBI protection, stat.

 

[Nyx]

Jon's parentage is interesting subject as stated by the show-runners numerous times.

But why?

He'd still be a bastard, right?

Or maybe his mother is a Baratheon or something lol

 

[EatChildren]

GRRM's perspective mainly deals with the character's position in the universe, I think. Arya, Bran, and even Jon are basically totally disconnected from a source of power or strength. They're "good guys", but they're also the underdogs. Ned and Robb weren't. They were kings with entire armies backing them. They were the most likely heroes of a traditional story. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

But why?

He'd still be a bastard, right?

Or maybe his mother is a Baratheon or something lol

Disclaimer: I haven't read the books. However, I know that simply due to the nature of the first book being literature and not television, and thus having a lot more substance and material to back the world and characters, there's some solid speculation surrounding Jon Snow's bloodline.

It's a really hard topic because, to my knowledge, it's not like some super mystery that is fed across all the books. It's a theory primarily rooted, almost exclusively, in material dealt with in A Game of Thrones, the first novel. But the show didn't go into it as much, so it probably can't be discussed :/.

 

[Nyx]

Disclaimer: I haven't read the books. However, I know that simply due to the nature of the first book being literature and not television, and thus having a lot more substance and material to back the world and characters, there's some solid speculation surrounding Jon Snow's bloodline.

It's a really hard topic because, to my knowledge, it's not like some super mystery that is fed across all the books. It's a theory primarily rooted, almost exclusively, in material dealt with in A Game of Thrones, the first novel. But the show didn't go into it as much, so it probably can't be discussed :/.

Guess we'll just have to be patient then!