It's pretty weird to think Ramsay order his men to hunt down and rape Theon only to turn up and kill his own men, just to screw with Theon's head. All that effort to make himself out to be Theon's saviour just to fuck with him psychologically...
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It's pretty weird to think Ramsay order his men to hunt down and rape Theon only to turn up and kill his own men, just to screw with Theon's head. All that effort to make himself out to be Theon's saviour just to fuck with him psychologically...
The Mel/Davos/Stannis thing seemed like it was 2-3 episodes of storyline boiled into 5 minutes.
Steelyuhas
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lol
Chuckie
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I thought it was a good finale. Dany's story is indeed a bit boring, and the ending was kind of lame. Maybe it just needs a kick in the ass. Get a bit more dark.
Loved Tyrion and Tywin this episode. Loved seeing Arya kill a man.
So somebody refresh my memory, why is Bran going north of the wall?
Loved Tyrion and Tywin this episode. Loved seeing Arya kill a man.
So somebody refresh my memory, why is Bran going north of the wall?
CreepingFear
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To look for the three eyed Raven that he always dreams about.
I was wondering how they plan to top the Red Wedding Episode and not lose people's interest. I was of the opinion that they needed to go out with a bang but I was wrong.
To explain, I read the books and I know what is going to happen so I had a few ideas what they could have done.
I really loved the slower pace, more quieter approach to show the aftermath of the Wedding. To have characters contemplate what family means to them actively or inactively was a great idea after seeing a family almost completely getting wiped out. Especially if you remember how strong the Stark as a family was/is.
Seeing the different characters deal and act after the incident and seeing all the loose ends getting back together again was a joy and a bit of a relieve.
It makes for a great start for the next season imo.
Things I loved the most about the Finale:
Bran making a point out of how the gods hate people who break the sacred hospitality law.
Hodor
Jon being reunited with Sam
Tyrion and Tywin conversation and in general how the Lannisters showed a bit of a human side.
What didn't work for me:
Melisandre doing a complete turn on all her plans in like 2 minutes
The Dany storyline
To explain, I read the books and I know what is going to happen so I had a few ideas what they could have done.
I really loved the slower pace, more quieter approach to show the aftermath of the Wedding. To have characters contemplate what family means to them actively or inactively was a great idea after seeing a family almost completely getting wiped out. Especially if you remember how strong the Stark as a family was/is.
Seeing the different characters deal and act after the incident and seeing all the loose ends getting back together again was a joy and a bit of a relieve.
It makes for a great start for the next season imo.
Things I loved the most about the Finale:
Bran making a point out of how the gods hate people who break the sacred hospitality law.
Hodor
Jon being reunited with Sam
Tyrion and Tywin conversation and in general how the Lannisters showed a bit of a human side.
What didn't work for me:
Melisandre doing a complete turn on all her plans in like 2 minutes
The Dany storyline
SkyMasterson
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So have the producers said how they plan on going about future seasons?
Will each book be spread across two seasons? Or just the next few books?(I haven't read the books so I'm unaware of how much content each has).
That would seem crazy though, nine more seasons of the show, which would be awesome but maybe unrealistic in terms of keeping some of the cast that long(assuming they survive it haha).
I enjoyed the finale by the way, ending it with the red wedding would have been a huge fucking downer lol.
Edit: Just googled it haha. Sounds like ASOS will be the only book split into multiple seasons.
Will each book be spread across two seasons? Or just the next few books?(I haven't read the books so I'm unaware of how much content each has).
That would seem crazy though, nine more seasons of the show, which would be awesome but maybe unrealistic in terms of keeping some of the cast that long(assuming they survive it haha).
I enjoyed the finale by the way, ending it with the red wedding would have been a huge fucking downer lol.
Edit: Just googled it haha. Sounds like ASOS will be the only book split into multiple seasons.
I would rather know who didn't get the reference to LoTR, it's impossible to not think of that scene, especially since both are often the heavier kind.
Was there a reason given why they didn't follow that strategy with the next seasons? Seems like a wasted potential, all the plot and time for art in to finish the series before we get a completely separate ending for the TV Show.
How old is Brand supposed to be right now. How much time has passed since the beginning?
The Real Abed
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I really like Daenerys. She's my favorite.
Of course that means she will die at some point I guess.
Can't believe it's over and now we have to wait until next April again. Gonna be a long time.
Of course that means she will die at some point I guess.
Can't believe it's over and now we have to wait until next April again. Gonna be a long time.
I laughed hard at:
- Psycho Joffery wanting to cook Robb's head. And being deadly serious about it.
- Hodor. HOOOOODOR.
- Jon getting peppered by his EX.
- The Aryia and Hound Show.
Very good episode over all. Impressed. Sad that I have to wait a full year for more.
I'd nearly rather they show and 1.5 hour show once a month with a two month break. I think that would be awesome.
She's had it way to easy. Time to bring the pain GRRM.
- Psycho Joffery wanting to cook Robb's head. And being deadly serious about it.
- Hodor. HOOOOODOR.
- Jon getting peppered by his EX.
- The Aryia and Hound Show.
Very good episode over all. Impressed. Sad that I have to wait a full year for more.
I'd nearly rather they show and 1.5 hour show once a month with a two month break. I think that would be awesome.
She's had it way to easy. Time to bring the pain GRRM.
CreepingFear
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She should just let the white walkers take care of business and then just clear the fucking place with fire from her dragons.
I was very satisfied with the season finale as well. My favorite scene was Roose Bolton and Walder Frey talking as the blood is being cleaned up around them. So much great symbolism right there!
Having read the books and knowing what they have left for next season, I am now convinced that HBO is handeling the material exceptionally well. Not only do they know how to film the scenes, they know how to pace the action very well. HBO, keep up the good work!
Yeah the small council scene was awesome!
Thats the first time Tywins seen psycho killer Joffrey too.
So amusing how Cersei tries to move discussion on cause Joffrey was only "joking" and then Joffrey has to make sure everyone know that he sure as fuck wasn't joking.
I find it curious how Tyrion didn't approve of the deaths of Robb and Catelyn.. Tyrion in S1 wouldn't have bat an eyelid.
Thats the first time Tywins seen psycho killer Joffrey too.
So amusing how Cersei tries to move discussion on cause Joffrey was only "joking" and then Joffrey has to make sure everyone know that he sure as fuck wasn't joking.
I find it curious how Tyrion didn't approve of the deaths of Robb and Catelyn.. Tyrion in S1 wouldn't have bat an eyelid.
Forsoke my vows and started reading the books last night. I'm going to miss taking part in the speculation in this thread a lot. Worst of all for the next month or so I won't be able to talk about the series with anyone.
I thought the finale was a bit unfocused. I think the show is best when there are only a few story lines being focused on each episode, and obviously for the finale you have to tie up all the storylines, so they're always going to be a bit weak. The other two finales had the awesomeness of the dragons or white walkers, I think this one needed something memorable like that.
I thought the finale was a bit unfocused. I think the show is best when there are only a few story lines being focused on each episode, and obviously for the finale you have to tie up all the storylines, so they're always going to be a bit weak. The other two finales had the awesomeness of the dragons or white walkers, I think this one needed something memorable like that.
ElectricBlue187
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Good episode. Arya prison shanking that dude was cool. Hopefully the "Valar Morgulis" means she's going to meet up with the Faceless Man and he's going to teach her some awesome stuff.
This was hinted at by Melisandre too; even a few notes of Jaqen H'ghar's theme were played then. She'll end up in Braavos.
Also, Chekhov's Gun.
Yes, he would. He bitch slapped Joffrey several times for being rude while down-talking the Starks in S1. He was always the most noble of the Lannisters.
The other GoT thread has spoiler bars for every book. It looks like a secret classified document just for people like you. (To the annoyance of everyone that has read all the books) Feel free to post your thoughts and comparisons in it.
David Incorporated Esq.
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He also designed Bran's saddle. He's always been a pretty swell guy (though he can still be ruthless).
kellycandthedragons
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Doesn't seem like a huge stretch to me. The way I see it, they did not spend so much time on the story just to have him fake it. How is it a huge stretch after seeing what this disgusting little man has done to him? If that really is what happens, then that would be why they showed it to us so much. Theon becomes attached to him but if we hadn't seen how he'd been psychologically abused, we would be saying "oh yeah right, like that cocky (pun intended) little shit would really act this way."
Ive had a day or so to think about it and I remain of the opinion that those torture scenes also weren't just about Theon. They were setting up a family that is going to be important going forward. The Boltons and Freys jumped to the top of many a shitlist last Sunday. You have to be a special kind of sick to be hated more than Joffrey so quickly.
Were you watching when Sam said please come with us and Bran was like I really want to, but I can't. And then they walked off. If he did go with Sam that would have pretty much ended everything they were doing and made it all pointless.
kellycandthedragons
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superdeluxe
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She just adjusted her direction thanks to Davos informing her more and giving her more context to her visions. Also, she didn't say she didn't still need to sacrific someone.
Any doubt the Hound is one of the top badass characters on the show? The guy always leaves a huge mess when he kills. He carries around a huge sword that he CLEAVES you with, not cuts. Chopped a man clear in half.
Stannis too. "COME WITH MEH AND TAKE THIS CITEH." The motherfucker leads the charge and climbs walls unlike most kings that hide in the rear or among their men.
And the Faceless Man is probably one of the deadliest men in all of Westeros.
Stannis too. "COME WITH MEH AND TAKE THIS CITEH." The motherfucker leads the charge and climbs walls unlike most kings that hide in the rear or among their men.
And the Faceless Man is probably one of the deadliest men in all of Westeros.
..really felt like the season ender was rather weak. I guess the dragon queen is officially jesus now? The hell can you end like that... Feel like ep9 would have been a better finale.
I guess they are trying to pace the seasons with the books? or something... egad that was bad.
I guess they are trying to pace the seasons with the books? or something... egad that was bad.
There's material they could of ended this season with and had plenty left over, I felt pretty let down how they handled it myself.
Liquidsnake
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Very good stuff. Is Joffrey the way he is because of inbreeding? Serious question.
Last Hearth
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Yeah episode was great even if the last scene was only meh.
Take that out and it's probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite episode of the entire season. Loved Arya, loved Bran and Sam, loved the Rat Cook story, liked Jon/Ygritte and loved the small council scene.
Take that out and it's probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite episode of the entire season. Loved Arya, loved Bran and Sam, loved the Rat Cook story, liked Jon/Ygritte and loved the small council scene.
kellycandthedragons
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I actually am glad that Dany's scene is at the end because it means I can just stop watching at that point when I rewatch the episode
Could be, half the Targs went made after all. His little brother and sister seem ok though.
Ninja Scooter
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His mother and grandfather are miserable cunts and his real dad was off fucking whores.
Nameless
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The show implied as much. I remember someone bringing up the Targaryans breeding within for generations and how it wasn't so rare for them to come out insane. Aerys Targaryan, and to lesser extent his son Viserys are two recent examples.
kellycandthedragons
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I think the case with Viserys was that he was at greater risk for going mad. So kind of like how people can be at greater risk for diseases thanks to their parents but never actually get them. So I can't help but wonder if being told the sun shines out of Targaryen ass influenced his madness. I'm guessing that he was born with some higher risk for going insane and so he was super sensitive. Because in the end it seemed to be less about wanton cruelty than getting what was supposed to be his. I mean just look at what Stannis has been turned into. I can't help but think he used to be a better man, because Davos seems convinced that Stannis is still a good man. All that talk about Targaryens being blood of the dragon and crap probably didn't help Viserys's ego. So yeah, I think he was always kind of on the fence and events pushed him towards madness. I think the same thing is happening to Dany. It's just that she is resisting better than he did, and her hubris is more deserved than Viserys's.
kellycandthedragons
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Well that assumes that the same things happen. I know book fans have said how close the first season was to the first book, but were outraged at the number of changes to the second book. So maybe that one would be worth the read?
He was a targaryen, but he wasn't a dragon targaryen.
There's enough missing and changed material to keep you entertained. Not to mention anything you've forgotton.
kellycandthedragons
Banned
Two things: Dany said he was not a dragon. Not that he wasn't her brother. The second is that I saw an old interview about the book series in which GRRM said that*
the Targaryens are not immune to fire. He of course could be lying, because he's a massive troll. From the interview:
* I'm not sure on the rules regarding this so I'll put it in spoiler tags. I don't think it's a spoiler though, since it's just a fact about a character and it's not from the actual books. The interview is from after the third book came out but before the fourth one did. Ah well, I'll be careful anyway. I know sometimes things are considered giving something away to some people but not to others, and I'd rather not risk it. I don't count it as a spoiler though because it doesn't reveal anything that happens in the plot. If the house history videos are fair game here, I don't see why this bit of information wouldn't be. But again, I'll play it safe
ETA: I don't claim that the interview itself doesn't have spoilers. I moved like an internet ninja when I googled the question way back when. So when I got to the page, I searched the page and that's it. The interview could have no spoilers and it could have a million spoilers, which is why I didn't link to it.
Fairly Rational
Banned
I'm kind of hoping we get minimal Dany next season. I like the character and most of her supporting characters, but Christ her arc this season was pure corn. The ending of this season in particular was just. Wow. I actually cringed.
It could in part be because I just don't buy her as this righteous leader. She hasn't done anything this season to remind people why she's dangerous. She's got dragons sure but I need to be reminded that if push came to shove she could handle business herself. Season 1 Dany could handle business, even Season 2 Dany wound up getting the upper hand on some dangerous people. This season though, everything went right and there was no real conflict for her. Jorah was back to being a complete simp, the new old guy didn't add much to Dany's party dynamic, and Daario has a face shaped entirely out of Mega Bloks.
The thing is, Dany can't really move forward until she sets sail for Westeros, and I'm terrified that will be years from now. If that is really the case, then I'd rather they just focused on the plot threads that matter.
It could in part be because I just don't buy her as this righteous leader. She hasn't done anything this season to remind people why she's dangerous. She's got dragons sure but I need to be reminded that if push came to shove she could handle business herself. Season 1 Dany could handle business, even Season 2 Dany wound up getting the upper hand on some dangerous people. This season though, everything went right and there was no real conflict for her. Jorah was back to being a complete simp, the new old guy didn't add much to Dany's party dynamic, and Daario has a face shaped entirely out of Mega Bloks.
The thing is, Dany can't really move forward until she sets sail for Westeros, and I'm terrified that will be years from now. If that is really the case, then I'd rather they just focused on the plot threads that matter.
Book reader comment: Pretty much this. Book 1 is fairly similar, minus a handful of dropped plot threads. The only ones significant enough for me to remember are Ned having a few flashbacks and dreams that shed some light on the rebellion in ways the show never has, and Blackfish being introduced much earlier and spending a good amount of time traveling with Cat.
Book 2 on the other hand is significantly different. Everyone ends up pretty much at the same place at the end, Arya escapes Harrenhal, Winterfell burns, Bran and Rickon are on the run, and Theon's captured, but the events along the way are pretty significantly different.
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