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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Yeh thanks buddy, the door's over there ----->
You can go watch your books without us.
It's pretty easy to avoid spoilers everywhere else, but spoilers always manage always find a way to wiggle it's way onto GAF sometimes. sometimes even into this thread!
User 100115
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I PM'd you, since I didn't want to throw book stuff into the thread. No spoilers, of course
Willkiller
Banned
Sorry, where is the door? On my right? I can't see it
Oh I know! Since watching the show all I heard was how amazing the 3rd series was going to be, as the show picked up steam I turned to the books rather than be spoiled by some random arsehole. I don't like living in constant fear about something I love.
Pride? I just assumed he didn't want to look weak.
kellycandthedragons
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He had been arguing with the dude about not cutting his entire arm off. So I assumed it was so that he made sure he didn't do that. Medical license revoked guy wanting to remove my arm putting me under anesthesia? No thanks. Plus he choked him right after he said "I can leave your other arm," which seemed weird to me so I assumed that was the statement he was angry about.
I bet you did.
kellycandthedragons
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?? Wha?
Zoso Achilles
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So what happens to this thread and the other now that the season is over?
My memory is hazy (not book reader) but seemed to me that Jamie did not trust him given that:
a) he wasn't a formal doctor (may recall this wrong, though)
b) was an enemy
c) Catch him lying about not being other way but to cut the whole arm
d) He just confessed to fake prognosis as a way to "experiment/explore" on people to learn about illnesses.
Would you rather get unconscious in front of such person, rather than endure pain?
This is beyond parody.
Ok, I've got a question for book readers that I would like answered in a PM. I would ask in the book thread but I am not a book reader yet and I'm afraid of spoilers. I really hope this is ok and no one gets in trouble for this.
My best friends' son is 13 and is a pretty voracious reader. He's read the Lord of the Rings series, watched the Band of Brothers series, is a big history buff (mostly WW2) and I know would love the idea of the GoT books. I've stopped them from letting him watch the show for now but I wonder if the book series is too mature for a just turned 13 year old boy. I will probably read them soon but I doubt I'll be able to read as much as he will so he'll get ahead of me sooner or later. Anyway, I hope some of you book readers can help, especially the ones who have children. I'm not a parent but I've been in this kid's life since day 1. I may be over-reacting and too protective. On the other hand, I love the series and really want to share it with him. Thanks.
My best friends' son is 13 and is a pretty voracious reader. He's read the Lord of the Rings series, watched the Band of Brothers series, is a big history buff (mostly WW2) and I know would love the idea of the GoT books. I've stopped them from letting him watch the show for now but I wonder if the book series is too mature for a just turned 13 year old boy. I will probably read them soon but I doubt I'll be able to read as much as he will so he'll get ahead of me sooner or later. Anyway, I hope some of you book readers can help, especially the ones who have children. I'm not a parent but I've been in this kid's life since day 1. I may be over-reacting and too protective. On the other hand, I love the series and really want to share it with him. Thanks.
Don't know why you want the answer in a PM, but the book is pretty sexually graphic at times. It can sometimes go into quite a bit of detail. Depends on if the parents are okay with letting a 13 year old read that stuff. I personally think 13 is too young.
Morrigan Stark
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This. IMO 13 is a bit too young, but some 13-year-olds are quite mature for their age, so it might be okay... it really depends on the kid. I read those books when I was 17 myself and I was fine. Would I have handled it maturely, or properly understood the material at 13? Hard to say, I'd like to think so but it's probably best to wait a few years.
I would say the series is not designed for children under 16 in either form. The rabbit hole goes deep.
13 is 8th or 9th grade - well after sex ed, so I don't see what the issue could be. Those same 8th or 9th graders are most definitely passing playboys back and forth with each other and talking about sex and making jokes about it constantly. When I was that age, I lived for late night movies on HBO and Cinemax.
Would you let a 13 year old watch South Park? If so, then Game of Thrones is no worse. And, when I was in high school, I don't think there was a single 7th-9th grader that didn't watch Sp religiously.
Chuckie
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The books are a lot 'worse' than Southpark. The problem isn't sex, it's raping/killing kids etc.
This statement is way off base.
It really depends on the maturity of the individual. 13 is "finishing middle school, about to enter high school" range. And I know that A Song of Ice and Fire wouldn't have been damaging in any way for me if I had read it in high school, but I don't know what your friend's son is like.
However, you might as well wait a couple years anyway. If he reads them all in quick succession he'd just be waiting impatiently for the next book like the rest of us.
However, you might as well wait a couple years anyway. If he reads them all in quick succession he'd just be waiting impatiently for the next book like the rest of us.
Really? Well in SP, we have a kid (Kyle) being captured and sewn ass to mouth with two adults, a kid putting a boy's penis in his mouth and taking a picture in the hopes of embarrassing him, Christmas Critters removing Strawberry Shortcake's eye and going into the forest to get aids so they can pee in her eye socket, people getting raped, child abuse in the form of Butters and his parents, a kid killing another kids parents and feeding them to him, and at least one kid getting killed in almost every episode. I would let a kid read/watch Game of Thrones years before I let them watch SP.
There's a big difference in the way both are presented though. Anyway I'll let you guys nut it out from here on. I've said my piece.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Rape, torture, extreme and gratuitous violence and gore. Not for kids under 16.
Wow, I didn't expect there to be responses here but thank you all. I was hesitant since people were getting banned for even mentioning the books so I didn't want to start any trouble. I'm going to go with the vast majority here and say no to him reading these books now. He just turned 13 and will start 8th grade next year.
fake edit: just showed these responses to his dad. He's confirmed that it's not appropriate for the kid. Thanks again everyone who responded.
Yeah! That part were Lucas and Spielberg were raping Stormtroopers and Indy was just as bad as the rape in Irreversible!
If you want to give him books to read I'd recommend David Eddings. They are fairly formulaic but there is no explicit content.
PhoenixDark
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Agreed. Start him with something like The Hobbit or the authors mentioned earlier. He'll appreciate Game Of Thrones a lot more after being introduced to the various fantasy tropes that Martin stabs to death.
He has already read LOTR if you looked at the post. If anything the dad and/or mom should just buy their own copy and then they could read it together and have a discussion once a week or something.
Just glad my parents didn't care WHAT I was reading when I was in school as long as I WAS reading at all, probably why I still read to this day when so many adults stop as soon as it is no longer required of them.
kellycandthedragons
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Don't think some of you realize the things that kids below 16 have seen and done these days...
You picked the mildest example to make your point. I would put the Human Centipede stuff up there with anything in GoT as far as disturbing material goes.
I'm so happy my parents didn't age restrict me from books/movies. They hooked me on Stephen King with IT and the Stand when I was 11, and were just proud of me that I was reading big novels. They brought me to see Friday the 13th movies and Nightmare on Elm Streets when I was even younger. They never had a problem with me playing Mortal Kombat or anything of the sort. This is really a foreign concept to me because all of my friends' parents were the same way.
No kidding. Your 13 year old has likely seen every kind of sick porn imaginable.
15 is a junior, someone that can legally drive. The thought of a junior in high school not being allowed to watch Game of Thrones is more than a bit ridiculous. It's a 100% guarantee if you tell them not to, they'll be watching it a friend's house or downloading it for themselves anyway.
timetokill
Banned
Yeah, it really depends on the kid.
I was reading books with these kinds of themes when I was like 8, but I was pretty obsessed with reading everything I could get my hands on then, and I loved dark themes. Goosebumps stopped bringing it so I had to step up to some Dean Koontz/Stephen King that was laying around the house, and from then on it was whatever goes.
That said, the only thing I really remember being barred from watching as a kid was rated R movies in the theatre, which I couldn't watch until I was 11. I really wanted to see Judge Dredd
What a dumb kid I was! But even then I knew it was a crappy movie. I thought rated R movies were kind of a sham after that.Anyway, depends on the kid, but if you have ANY doubts whatsoever then I'd hold off. GoT has some pretty dark and terrible stuff and I know my sister wouldn't have been able to handle it at 13 for instance.
HP_Wuvcraft
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In the lagoon area here, some kids are actually making Westeros in the sand.
They've been at this for six hours.
Way for my camera to break.
They've been at this for six hours.
Way for my camera to break.
S1 & S2 show spoilers
http://youtu.be/U-3Ak19B2_k
Pretty cool put together fan video. Shows a lot of the brutal kill scenes in GoT too.
http://youtu.be/U-3Ak19B2_k
Pretty cool put together fan video. Shows a lot of the brutal kill scenes in GoT too.
That video is awesome. Thanks for sharing.
robotzombie
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This video is legit. The music works surprisingly well.
Steelyuhas
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-Season 3 DVD and Blu-ray hits Feb 18th, fans vote on alternate covers
-Vote here
-Cover set 1:
-Cover set 2:
-Cover set 3:
-Vote here
-Cover set 1:
-Cover set 2:
-Cover set 3:
User 100115
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Wow those last two cover sets are beautiful. 1 not so much. I think I like 3 better
Battle Born
Member
Set 1 is awful. I think I prefer how Set 2 looks but I also like the Tully Cover from the third one.
Rentahamster
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Set 3.
Doesn't set 2 look like the season 1 boxes? I actually don't know.
Doesn't set 2 look like the season 1 boxes? I actually don't know.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Everyone vote for #3. We already have the covers from #2.
Frank the Great
Banned
Does anyone know why the Lannisters have the lion symbol? Are there lions on Westeros??
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
yes there are. The only reason I know that is because that's how House Clegane got their coat of arms. The dogs chased off a lion that was attacking.
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