I am also a bit confused by the geography of his escape.
He's gone around in a circle?
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I am also a bit confused by the geography of his escape.
He's gone around in a circle?
obviously. It's kinda weird that he didn't notice, but he seemed to be quite disorientated
Well, they were putting the screws to him, after all.
They kept putting a bag over his head previously, doubt he knew where he was.
KrispeKreme
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Yeah, you're right that's why I deleted my post. I went to wikipedia to doublecheck my data and was surprised that book 3 was published 13 years ago. Explaining my foggy timeline recollection.
I don't know how any non reader can follow this season with any kind of depth of comprehension. It feels like most of the storylines had the barest thread of exposition.
NathanMcMahon
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Very easily actually
Anton668
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just got caught up, lemme try a summarize..
damn..
shit..
whoa..
HOLY FUCK..
anyways..
about the 8000 number, wasnt that JUST the fully trained ones? wouldnt the partially trained ones add to that number. and if so, was that number addressed?
So if say 1 unsullied = 4 normal soldiers, she has an effective 32000 force. then if the half trained ones then for arguments sake would equal 2 soldiers and say the have 4000 of them giving her another 8000 effective force for a total equivalent 40000 army correct? That plus 3 small dragons still may or not equal the 100K+ forces currently in play, but it does seem more formidable and that last scene sure looked like more than just 8000 men...
ETA: Epi 3 states that there are 8000 unsullied + the half trained. though I didnt hear a number on the half trained
damn..
shit..
whoa..
HOLY FUCK..
anyways..
about the 8000 number, wasnt that JUST the fully trained ones? wouldnt the partially trained ones add to that number. and if so, was that number addressed?
So if say 1 unsullied = 4 normal soldiers, she has an effective 32000 force. then if the half trained ones then for arguments sake would equal 2 soldiers and say the have 4000 of them giving her another 8000 effective force for a total equivalent 40000 army correct? That plus 3 small dragons still may or not equal the 100K+ forces currently in play, but it does seem more formidable and that last scene sure looked like more than just 8000 men...
ETA: Epi 3 states that there are 8000 unsullied + the half trained. though I didnt hear a number on the half trained
NathanMcMahon
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Yeah, but that makes sense as your being introduced to a new world.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/game-of-thrones-dothraki-language-inventor.html
Article on the Dothraki and Valyrian languages used for the show. I have no idea if there are any spoilers in there, and I don't want to read and find out the hard way, but I thought some of you guys might find this tidbit interesting:
Article on the Dothraki and Valyrian languages used for the show. I have no idea if there are any spoilers in there, and I don't want to read and find out the hard way, but I thought some of you guys might find this tidbit interesting:
It's honestly not that much people in the grand scheme of things.
Anton668
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pretty much. unless we want to try and break down how many men a small dragon equals(I'll go grab my D&D books!)...
a good sized unit of decent archers would/could turn those dragons into pin cushions!
So I really dont see her heading straight to attack the kingdom unless shes nucking futz! and as we just saw, shes anything but.
That one archer from the brotherhood would kill all three before they got anywhere near him.
ThoseDeafMutes
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If the 100k armies are really what the other factions have at their disposal, then she's going to have to gather more strength before challenging the big players directly. Options seem to be stopping somewhere else before Westeros to pick up more armies, joining forces with somebody who is already vying for the throne, or trying to land and hope that local forces will rally to their "rightful queen" (lol).
There was actually an AMA on Reddit from the guy who wrote the Dothraki language a week ago. Actually he wrote them all. It was really interesting and I didn't really see any spoilers that I couldn't avoid. I'm not a book reader if that helps.
smokeandmirrors
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[Book reader here] No spoilers. Just talks about the creation of the languages and the use of it in 3.04. (which means seasons 1 and 2 are fair game, obviously)
I skimmed the contents, nothing bad there that I saw, but I would probably avoid those just in case.
The only thing that could possibly be maybe thought about being a possible 'spoiler' just talks about the George RR Martin occasionally emailing asking about the language. But he does that for a lot of people, especially those who run the fan sites and the A Song of Ice and Fire and Game Of Thrones Wiki's to make sure he keeps the story straight.
Just wanted to pop in and let you guys know. It's actually an interesting, albeit small article.
Anton668
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3 SMALL dragons only equal (hold on, still looking through my DM's guide!) men
shes going to have to stop somewhere and top off...
I think I remember her saying shes not expecting to pick up that many numbers on the "mainland" so she'd have too find them along the way. from where? no idea at this point.
But, put me in the camp that wants her to show up at the Dothraki's that told her to "fuck off" and look at them and go "'sup bitches". then when they think they are gonna teach her a lesson, 3 dragons and 8000+ unsullied crest the ridge. at which point she informs them she made a few friends since last they met... *fun and hilarity ensue...*
shes going to have to stop somewhere and top off...
I think I remember her saying shes not expecting to pick up that many numbers on the "mainland" so she'd have too find them along the way. from where? no idea at this point.
But, put me in the camp that wants her to show up at the Dothraki's that told her to "fuck off" and look at them and go "'sup bitches". then when they think they are gonna teach her a lesson, 3 dragons and 8000+ unsullied crest the ridge. at which point she informs them she made a few friends since last they met... *fun and hilarity ensue...*
Morrigan Stark
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Not really a spoiler, but I'm gonna be prudent just in case, so PM me if you want an answer.
The problem is, if you remember Missandei said they trained from dusk till dawn with a few weapons ie. Spear, Short sword etc.
They are basically highly regimented infantry. They are too limited in their power projection and number to challenge anyone save for Robb probably.
I think basically they are suited for overrunning cities or brute force pushes. But they'd get picked apart by trained archers, catapults, things that can fire from a distance. She does have three dragons though, but they said it'll be years before they could do any damage.
I wish she'd hurry up and land somewhere on Westeros already. It would be amazing to see the Targaeryan banner/sigil be seen somewhere. I think Robb's best chance would be if Daenarys focused on Stannis or the Lannisters first.
They are basically highly regimented infantry. They are too limited in their power projection and number to challenge anyone save for Robb probably.
I think basically they are suited for overrunning cities or brute force pushes. But they'd get picked apart by trained archers, catapults, things that can fire from a distance. She does have three dragons though, but they said it'll be years before they could do any damage.
I wish she'd hurry up and land somewhere on Westeros already. It would be amazing to see the Targaeryan banner/sigil be seen somewhere. I think Robb's best chance would be if Daenarys focused on Stannis or the Lannisters first.
In the type of warfare practiced in GOT there is one primary attribute that separates great infantry from bad infantry. Great infantry does not break. It provides a fixed point in the battlefield against which you can leverage the maneuvers of your more mobile troops. Having unbreakable infantry was what gave the Greeks the upper hand in the wars with Persia. Combine this with good cavalry and you have a formidable army.
So the Unsullied do not break. The Dothraki are the best cavalry in the land. If Dany does what I think next and goes to reclaim leadership of the Dothraki, she's gonna have the basis for the best army currently on the field. Depending on how good she or her generals are she may not even need dragons.
I'm gonna guess his father.
Theon said something like "Those are my sisters men, they wont hurt us"
and that guy replied "not all of them are your sisters men"
And that started the whole "my real father had his head chopped off in kings landing" bit.
I've grown to the idea that Theon's father is just punishing him for his act of stupidity.
While your points are correct, you have to remember that there are no professional armies in Westeros. Only the knights have regular martial training while the bulk of the armies are raised from peasants (like the Hound mocked the BwB last episode).
Tell that to the original Lord of Harrenhal, didn't Tywin say that him and his sons burned to death inside that castle when Aegon and his sisters attacked?
Even Varys seemed to be fearful of them, saying once they were older, there'd be no place to hide.
I don't know why, but I have this picture in my head of Dany riding them like the Witch King rode the Nazgul in Return of the King and just effing everybody in Westeros up.
LukasTaves
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I'm also betting on his father, but the scene you are describing was when Theon were lead to believe they were getting inside his sister's castle or some sort of fort... The guy was just playing him, and probably avoided been seen because their comrades didn't know what he was up to and would probably capture theon before he had any chance to spill whatever info the guy was trying to get.
I think it's only good once.
Like if a bee stings you it usually dies shortly after.
At least that's what I gathered from the Stannis/Melis conversation when she said she was leaving for awhile and he asked her for another 'baby'.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Aragorn held their oaths fulfilled.
The reason why that whole castle is rubble is because of 1 Dragon (think it was just Aegon)so yeah be scared of the power they wield. They thought they could just sit out a siege in castle but everybody was burned alive by Dragonfire it even cracked the stone walls it that powerful
PhoenixDark
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I watched S1 but didn't continue; I've heard the other seasons are much better. The biggest problem to me was that the characters are almost completely unlikable; not in the sense of being assholes, but in the sense of being boring and not compelling. Nucky just doesn't do anything for me, partly due to the actor as I said. I liked Capone and the sniper but everyone else felt generic. I think people expected a strong lead and an ensemble cast, and were disappointed.
I'm not shitting on the show, it's just not compelling television to me. And I definitely wonder what HBO's long term plans are for it. They have a CIA show coming up with Aaron Paul that sounds like their next big move, for instance. I'd imagine BE is profitable and it gets good reviews, so I doubt it's in danger of cancellation. But HBO has so much stuff in the wings right now that something probably has to go.
Cornballer
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A couple updates, though we're rapidly digressing from the topic of the thread.... Aaron Paul bowed out of The Missionary last year and they replaced him with Ben Walker. Jesse Plemons in on that, too. As far as I know, they're just gearing up for the pilot one of these days. The next thing we'll see from HBO is most likely True Detective (Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson) since that already has a short series order and they're filming it right now. I should put up a thread for that at some point. Since they haven't announced it for the Fall, I'm guessing they might air it Winter 2014 in Luck's old slot(?) The rest of their dramas are a long ways off last I checked.
FWIW, I'll stand by Boardwalk Empire as very good television that's great at times each season, though admittedly (based on general & GAF response) it isn't for everyone.
Well I assume she is going to go back and kick some Dothyraki <sp??> ass and load them, and their smelly mares, onto ships*. I mean they have huge numbers of horsemen, she has her core infantry and she has her secret weapon in the Dragons.
Oh she might get some recruits from the freed slaves of the slave city. If she is smart she will retain control of it.
*She's going to need a lot of ships. Unless the slave city has some she can just take.
And before long I assume Robb will withdraw back to the north. He will having wildlings and whitewalkers coming through up there. Probably about the same time that Dany and her lot land.
Steelyuhas
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lol
Dammit Aaron!
I'm sure assuming that True Detective is ready, they will get it into that January slot. It wasn't ideal for them only airing two half-hour shows last January (one of which about 12 people watched).
Also, put me on team Boardwalk as well. Good show, but I definitely get that it's not for everyone and I'm in it for the wide range of interesting characters, three seasons in and I still don't like Nucky much. (and now I just dream of a Boardwalk where Alec Baldwin was in it!)
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Oh yeah, Game of Thrones: Curtain Call: James Cosmo
RIP Mormont :/
I didn't have a lot invested in the characters so I'm not sad to see them go, but I'm glad they went out with a bang That riot escalated fast, there was a simmering build up and then bam.
This episode had so many pay offs. It's like a mini finale.
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Varys has never met Dany. Did you mean Viserys?
Also, I think Jorah mentioned how Targaryen's are like flipping a coin: extremely bright or insane.
Yes I meant Viserys, I'm not sure why I typed Varys. Wasn't it somebody else that said the gods flip a coin every time a Targaryen is born?
I'm just wondering if Dany expects the Westeros people welcome her back and turn on their Kings.
Pretty sure it was Cercei when she was talking to Tyrion.
Here_Try_This
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Yea, I assumed they were referencing incest, in the lannister ancestry.
Yeah, I just watched the scene again. Tyrion and Cersei are discussing Joffrey's parentage, and she compares herself and Jaime to the Targaryens, and how every time a Targaryen is born, the gods would flip a coin to see if the child would grow up to be mad or not.
Question.
I've decided to finally give Game of Thrones a chance. I've avoided it until now simply because I found A Song of Ice and Fire to be an extremely boring read and could never really make it past the first book. I figure I might have better luck with the show or at least the first few episodes.
Does anyone know how much bandwidth the first season can use up? The HD version? Or just how big an episode could be? I'd likely be getting the episodes from Amazon.com's Video Service. At least to start as I'm not ready to put down $50 on a blu-ray copy.
I've decided to finally give Game of Thrones a chance. I've avoided it until now simply because I found A Song of Ice and Fire to be an extremely boring read and could never really make it past the first book. I figure I might have better luck with the show or at least the first few episodes.
Does anyone know how much bandwidth the first season can use up? The HD version? Or just how big an episode could be? I'd likely be getting the episodes from Amazon.com's Video Service. At least to start as I'm not ready to put down $50 on a blu-ray copy.
Episodes are 45-60mins long, so count 500MB-1GB per episode, depending on the quality/codec. If you've got BW caps issues getting a cheap DVD/BR copy would probably be the wisest choice.
Wasn't she told in the first season that the people don't care about "the game of thrones" so they aren't sitting around waiting for her to return?
I think she's moved away from the mindset that the people expect and want her.
Good edit, lol.
I subscribe to HBO Canada and I also get HBO On Demand so I can watch them anytime.
The shows usually run about 50+ minutes. I would assume the HD versions of the rentals from Amazon would be more bandwidth intensive, ie. I don't think you have anything to worry about...
I still think she has it in her head that people are waiting for her. That's all she said in Season 2, how her people are waiting for her, how she needs ships, how the war of Five kings is tearing Westeros apart. You have to remember, the people that probably took her to Essos, raised her and Viserys and told them how they are the rightful rulers, that the kingdoms are probably suffering under Robert the Usurper. Barristan Selmy showing up, probably emboldens her even more. I think she's moving away from the "hurry" she was in, and is becoming more calculating. She took the time to get this army etc. Next will be ships and supplies before she sails back to Westeros probably.
Thanks for checking it out
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