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Something like 20 I believe. It was almost 300 years when Robert took the Throne.
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Something like 20 I believe. It was almost 300 years when Robert took the Throne.
John Dunbar
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Aerys was the 17th Targ king.
I would really, really surprised if that happens this season. Speculation:
Now that Roose Bolton's true colours have been revealed I expect Theon's torturer to be revealed as his son who was ordered by Robb to save Winterfell and capture Theon.
Silent_Bomber
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Did you watch Season 1 & 2s Bluray special features?
They made a load of narrated slideshows, each dealing with a different house and explaining the general history and what not.
They're all on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJQW1Ugvys
Tyrells command the biggest army after at I'm guessing the order is Lannister>North>Stannis>Greyjoys
The show has altered the family tree somewhat to simplify the relationships between some characters (i.e. Maester Aemon and Dany), so it's probably fewer than this but still around that number.
See: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/season3/#!/guide/houses/targaryen/
Jibbajabbawockky
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Those are truly fantastic for some general backstory and lore for the show without fear of stumbling on book spoilers.
I would also recommend the Dunk and Egg novellas from George RR Martin as well. They're 3 novellas in the world of Game of Thrones that take place about 90 years before the events of the books/show but they give you a glimpse of what life was like under the rule of the Targaryens. They're really fun reads.
TheChewyWaffles
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It's funny, I don't recall seeing the comet in the show.
Frank the Great
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here is the scene (obligatory do not read comments warning)
the comet, the dragons coming back, and the magic returning . . . they all happened at the same time.
there has to be a link.
It's actually used as a kind of framing device in the first episode of season 2, IIRC. They cut away to it several times to show that it's visible in the sky to pretty much every character.
GenocidalMarshmallow
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Does anyone know how powerful the Greyjoys are? Right now they just seem pitifully weak. I know they were crushed during their rebellion and Theon was taken hostage although Ned treated him very well almost like a son which Theon later acknowledges but what is their military strength or troop numbers?
I know Stannis only has a few soldiers left but someone on here said he has more than the Greyjoys. There are enough that they can terrorize the North and they are one of the great houses after all. It just seems like they're pretty pathetic and disappointing so far. All the other houses have power and armies and the Greyjoys seem depressingly weak. I hope they have a battle with someone soon, the Lannister/Tyrell alliance is just too powerful and now with Robb and most of his army dead there's no one left to challenge them.
I wonder how Theon will react when he finds out Robb is dead...Maybe he'll show some remorse and redeem himself. I feel like I'm one of the only people that like Theon.
Yes he killed Ser Rodrick and two innocent boys but he tried to give the father gold and although that doesn't make up for it he showed remorse when he told sick fuck how terrible he was and how bad he felt for murdering those two boys and how Ned was his real father who died at King's Landing.
I really hope you get out of there in one piece and redeem yourself, Theon!
Maybe someone can use magic to grow his cock back or something? Is it confirmed he was castrated they didn't show it?
I wonder if Bran can raise and warg animals that are dead. Raisin Bran!
I really hope there's some sort of vengeance for the Starks in the finale but most people on here say there won't be! Too bad Tony Stark isn't there he would fuck shit up with his technology!
Stannis should team up with the Greyjoys and Dorne and Arryn and all the people of the North that refuse to follow Bolton and then they can put Joffrey's head on a spike! Some people say the leech sacrifice caused the red Wedding and others say it had no effect and the wedding would happen anyway and it was just a coincidence. Which is it?
I know Stannis only has a few soldiers left but someone on here said he has more than the Greyjoys. There are enough that they can terrorize the North and they are one of the great houses after all. It just seems like they're pretty pathetic and disappointing so far. All the other houses have power and armies and the Greyjoys seem depressingly weak. I hope they have a battle with someone soon, the Lannister/Tyrell alliance is just too powerful and now with Robb and most of his army dead there's no one left to challenge them.
I wonder how Theon will react when he finds out Robb is dead...Maybe he'll show some remorse and redeem himself. I feel like I'm one of the only people that like Theon.
Yes he killed Ser Rodrick and two innocent boys but he tried to give the father gold and although that doesn't make up for it he showed remorse when he told sick fuck how terrible he was and how bad he felt for murdering those two boys and how Ned was his real father who died at King's Landing.
I really hope you get out of there in one piece and redeem yourself, Theon!
Maybe someone can use magic to grow his cock back or something? Is it confirmed he was castrated they didn't show it?
I wonder if Bran can raise and warg animals that are dead. Raisin Bran!
I really hope there's some sort of vengeance for the Starks in the finale but most people on here say there won't be! Too bad Tony Stark isn't there he would fuck shit up with his technology!
Stannis should team up with the Greyjoys and Dorne and Arryn and all the people of the North that refuse to follow Bolton and then they can put Joffrey's head on a spike! Some people say the leech sacrifice caused the red Wedding and others say it had no effect and the wedding would happen anyway and it was just a coincidence. Which is it?
Did you want to see that?
ElectricBlue187
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I'd like to see the rest of the Red Witch's prophecy fulfilled in the finale
#TeamFuckJoffery
#TeamFuckJoffery
Steelyuhas
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Yeah that was a pretty cool transition/connection, I think they did it at least 3 times in the episode.
kellycandthedragons
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Wasn't a prophecy, it was a curse. The whole point was to use Gendry's blood to do something tangible to convince Davos that they need to go through with the sacrifice. She doesn't need blood to make prophecies. Always seeing stuff in the flames.
I also want to see what becomes of the North and Winterfell. I guess Sansa is now next in line for it, but yes, we know she doesn't have any real powers to claim it and that might've been part of the deal with Bolton and the Lannisters.
The Tyrells deemed it important enough to make a move for it through Sansa herself, so I'm guessing it is still important in the overall scheme of things. I wonder if there will be further friction on who makes a claim for it with the remaining people in the more northern lands, although I can't really think of anyone who would go for it after what just happened, or if there is anyone from there left to "defend" it, or whatever remains of it.
The Tyrells deemed it important enough to make a move for it through Sansa herself, so I'm guessing it is still important in the overall scheme of things. I wonder if there will be further friction on who makes a claim for it with the remaining people in the more northern lands, although I can't really think of anyone who would go for it after what just happened, or if there is anyone from there left to "defend" it, or whatever remains of it.
kellycandthedragons
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Watching reaction videos, I must say I understand the book readers strange desire to see us react to this wedding. It's almost comforting in a way. It's sort of like you need to reassure yourself that there are people who were also affected by it. Plus I think there is the subconscious attempt to convince yourself that there are people in the world that are horrified by it in an effort to show that there will be justice. I wish they hadn't used the title "The North Remembers" already though. I think if the Starks ever take their revenge, that would have been a nice title for that episode.
GenocidalMarshmallow
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It could happen offscreen like the castration!
It could be a neat camera trick with a shadow in a wall, like in the Pinocchio animated movie!
Last Hearth
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Both Stannis and the Ironborn still have decent sea power but limited land power at this power. Stannis controlled the royal fleet and even though a large portion of it was destroyed at Blackwater, he still has a decent sized navy, which is why King's Landing with no Navy, can't immediate pursue him after his defeat, and why he's relatively safe still in Dragonstone.
The Ironborn also is much more about have a swift naval force that allow them to do quick and surgical raids along the coast, there is really not enough of them though to hold a large piece of land on the continent.
As funny as that might be it'll probably be for the best if it stays in that torturers trophy case. I mean look how cool Jaime's become after losing his hand and losing your wang has got to be worth twice as many cool points.
Oh man, this image made me laugh out loud.
Jaime kept Brienne from being raped when he still had both of his hands.
Noooope.
So young.
It says Aids next to Robb.
Steelyuhas
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You sure about that?
Like you said, she is trying to convince Davos. Perhaps she saw deaths of the three other Kings in the flames and used that "ceremony" as a display of her power to Davos to try to convince him to at least accept what she is doing (and sacrifice Gendry).
lol
Isn't that pretty much the basis of this thread though?
GenocidalMarshmallow
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I agree with you guys, it would be hilarious if that happened and I'd piss my pants if it did but it would turn GoT into a comedy but then Theon and Vary's can become the leaders of the equally dickless Unsullied and knock some skulls in the name of the realm!
Ah, thanks man, I was wondering how much power they had and also very curious as to why the Lannister's didn't attack the much weakened Stannis seeing as the maps show Dragonstone so close to King's Landing but I guess a still strong Navy will do it. I was like, tens of thousand of Lannisters and Tyrells and they can't counter him when he's so weak and so close to the capital? Things are cleared up a little more!
kellycandthedragons
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Yes I'm sure about that because she's not an idiot. She EXPLICITLY SAID don't scare the sacrifice. If she could prove power by just naming the deaths she saw in the flames, she would do that instead of spoiling the sacrifice. Now he's going to be on guard whenever she gets within 50 yards of him. No, it was meant to be a curse powered by Gendry's blood in order to prove that the blood of a king is powerful.
If it was something she saw in the flames, it would make WAY more sense to take some random person's blood, put on the song and dance, and then say "Hey, if this nobody's blood could do THAT, think what Gendry's can do!" She meant it as a curse. It's not something she saw in the flames. She will get lucky, claim it was her doing, but Davos will tell her that this had to have been planned long before she took his blood. She will claim that it's a huge coincidence for it to go off without a hitch. It sets the stage for a pretty interesting conversation about religion and perceptions of supernatural events, I think.
No, everyone here realizes the books came first and awhile ago.
It was a joke about people here saying this thread basically exists in a universe where the books don't exist
Alright, caught up to ep. 9 the other day. Anyone else considering dropping the series after this weekend? Since they killed off everyone worth a damn and could make a difference in the Red Wedding, I'm kind of ambivalent about continuing. At this point, the White Walkers could overrun Westeros for all I care.
There are plenty of characters that I still care about. The Starks weren't the only ones with so much at stake, there are still so many reasons to watch.
I feel like "I'm not gonna watch anymore" is a gut reaction, but you know you aren't going to give it up.
partime
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Joffrey, that little prick, must die!
That's why you just switch teams. #teamwhitewalkers #teamasteroids #teammegavolcano
Oh no, I am serious. There is literally two likeable characters who have half of a chance of changing anything in the shitsack world of GoT and they're both Lannisters. Now Tyrian and the reformed Jaime are worthy enough characters, but they're both ultimately on the wrong side of the fence and for anything worthwhile to happen and for some semblance of honor or justice to come out of this, it'll take another season. I mean, for me it's not about what's at stake, but rather which characters I can get behind. Those characters are becoming fewer and fewer and I find myself cheering characters on less and less.
During the Red Wedding, well before "The Rains of Casterly Rock" started playing, I mentioned to my sister who was watching with me that I hate these sorts of laid back pomp and circumstance scenes because I'm always afraid something bad is going to happen. And I was right. I didn't want to be right. It showed me I can't really enjoy the show anymore because everyone gets fucked in the end if they so much as hint that their motives are less than entirely self-serving. It pretty much makes rooting for the "good guys" feel pointless and it takes away the satisfaction of the "bad guys" getting killed because it just reminds you of what it took for them to go down. I mean, the Stark rebellion was the torch, it was the thing that made you think that at least someplace wouldn't be so crapsack, and that would sustain me until the next season. The Red Wedding pretty much took all the wind out of my sails to continue it.
kellycandthedragons
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I don't understand the modern television viewer.
Viewer: Ugh nobody writes characters you care about anymore. It's all unoriginal or reality tv crap.
Writer: -writes a character you care about and makes original move to kill them off in order to create impetus for more drama-
Viewer: OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU I WAS REALLY INVESTED IN THIS CHARACTER AND I WANTED TO SEE THEM SUCCEED UGH THAT WAS TOO MUCH, I QUIT THIS SHOW HOW DARE YOU ACTUALLY MAKE ME FEEL. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU TALENTLESS HACK
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what. No wonder producers love going the safe route. It's better for their own sanity. I may be exaggerating or oversimplifying but that's how the reaction reads to me. We ask to be moved, we ask for originality, we ask for characters we care about....but only when it follows a very specific set of protocols that are the antitheses to originality. I am glad to have seen something that made me feel something and at the end of the day, I was entertained and that's what matters to me when watching tv or a movie or reading a story. The ability to move into another world, even if that world is flawed and the good guys don't always win. In fact, in one new show that I like despite it's cheesiness sometimes, the season finale ended with one of the main character's best friends dying and the villain outsmarting the good guys by having the sense to use a backup device and not tell anyone about it. It was somewhat of a downer, but I loved it because I was gripped from start to finish. That show now holds a special place in my heart. And because I think that this will make any negative act against the Lannisters and Freys that much sweeter in addition to opening up a million new avenues for the story to go down, I am now going to watch this show even MORE faithfully. Far from pushing me away, this made me more interested and injected some life into a rather slow season for most of the characters.
Viewer: Ugh nobody writes characters you care about anymore. It's all unoriginal or reality tv crap.
Writer: -writes a character you care about and makes original move to kill them off in order to create impetus for more drama-
Viewer: OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU I WAS REALLY INVESTED IN THIS CHARACTER AND I WANTED TO SEE THEM SUCCEED UGH THAT WAS TOO MUCH, I QUIT THIS SHOW HOW DARE YOU ACTUALLY MAKE ME FEEL. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU TALENTLESS HACK
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what. No wonder producers love going the safe route. It's better for their own sanity. I may be exaggerating or oversimplifying but that's how the reaction reads to me. We ask to be moved, we ask for originality, we ask for characters we care about....but only when it follows a very specific set of protocols that are the antitheses to originality. I am glad to have seen something that made me feel something and at the end of the day, I was entertained and that's what matters to me when watching tv or a movie or reading a story. The ability to move into another world, even if that world is flawed and the good guys don't always win. In fact, in one new show that I like despite it's cheesiness sometimes, the season finale ended with one of the main character's best friends dying and the villain outsmarting the good guys by having the sense to use a backup device and not tell anyone about it. It was somewhat of a downer, but I loved it because I was gripped from start to finish. That show now holds a special place in my heart. And because I think that this will make any negative act against the Lannisters and Freys that much sweeter in addition to opening up a million new avenues for the story to go down, I am now going to watch this show even MORE faithfully. Far from pushing me away, this made me more interested and injected some life into a rather slow season for most of the characters.
Man, this thread. I had sworn to stay out of them forever after the bad experience last season, but the Red Wedding was too much, I had to read the reactions here. Not unexpectedly, as I skimmed trying to find the right page, I saw the same book-reader plague of last year. But there have been plenty of mods this year beheading people, so, good of them.
It is still a lost cause. Being a non-book reader trying to completely avoid spoilers in the GoT threads is the same as being a Stark in the GoT show: Your only chance of succeeding is to run away from it. =P
Anyway, curious about tomorrow. I expect the Lannisters to throw a party, and Joffrey and Cersei fighting each other to see who'll be the first to tell Sansa her family has been slaughtered. Theon is tortured for 6 more minutes; Bran and his troupe wander around some woods going nowhere for 4 min and Kelly C conquers another city in 8 min; Jaime and Brienne with their rom com etc...
I expect to be back next year after episode 9 of Season 4. =P
It is still a lost cause. Being a non-book reader trying to completely avoid spoilers in the GoT threads is the same as being a Stark in the GoT show: Your only chance of succeeding is to run away from it. =P
Anyway, curious about tomorrow. I expect the Lannisters to throw a party, and Joffrey and Cersei fighting each other to see who'll be the first to tell Sansa her family has been slaughtered. Theon is tortured for 6 more minutes; Bran and his troupe wander around some woods going nowhere for 4 min and Kelly C conquers another city in 8 min; Jaime and Brienne with their rom com etc...
I expect to be back next year after episode 9 of Season 4. =P
Worst attitude to take in a show like this. If you give up and stop watching every time someone you like dies I'm surprised you lasted this long. Seriously, get on board #teamdany, we all know she's going take this with her DRAGONS!
kellycandthedragons
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Here, my child. This will make it all better.
http://www.youtube.com/tv?v=oc0GrNlTWTM
http://www.youtube.com/tv?v=oc0GrNlTWTM
There are plenty of decent people left. You have Dany, Jon, Sam, Davos, Stannis, Arya, the Tyrells, Brienne and Jamie look's like he's starting to turn over a new leaf.
Tomorrow's. The seasons are always 10 episodes.
It isn't like all the Starks are gone. Everyone's favorite Arya just missed getting butchered.
Anyway, you show watchers who feel like not watching anymore, book readers felt like not reading anymore too...and then our curiosity got the better of us and GRRM rewarded it with some kick-ass/f*ch-yeah moments. He'll probably rip our hearts out, smash them, and then incinerate them one or two more times in the last two books. However, book readers know enough now to feel like it will be worth it for the final bittersweet payoff.
Let me put it this way, the best rollercoasters go low as much as they go high.
Anyway, you show watchers who feel like not watching anymore, book readers felt like not reading anymore too...and then our curiosity got the better of us and GRRM rewarded it with some kick-ass/f*ch-yeah moments. He'll probably rip our hearts out, smash them, and then incinerate them one or two more times in the last two books. However, book readers know enough now to feel like it will be worth it for the final bittersweet payoff.
Let me put it this way, the best rollercoasters go low as much as they go high.
kellycandthedragons
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Oh, and I don't think Blackfish was in on it, for those who are worried. I mean he was smacking Edmure around verbally for disrespecting Robb. He punched that Karstark dude in the face for disrespecting Robb. Tully words are Family, Duty, Honor. No way he knew anything about this. He seemed genuinely pissed at anyone who would disrespect Robb. He's seen wet shits he likes better than Walder Frey. The guy is #TeamStark for life.
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