illmatic22
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Only if he levels Slavers Bay and rids us of the Mad Mhysa first
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 5 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Only if he levels Slavers Bay and rids us of the Mad Mhysa first
Eighty Deuce
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Hey I think they just established that the Boltons are bad people, because up until this episode they seemed legit.
ComputerBlue
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Agree the fight was horrible. But I thought this was a great episode other than the ending which makes me feel ill.
Succinct Verbosity
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I am now extremely depressed. Given that I was talking to somebody that said they'd give up on this show if this exact thing happened, I am doubly depressed. Ugh. No.
WHY are any of you thinking that Theon was going to do anything!? Have you been watching the show?
This is Reek. Reek, who was willing to watch his own sister nearly be killed for trying to rescue him. OF COURSE he wasn't going to do shit!
Like, that scene served literally NO PURPOSE. It was the writers once again being sadistic just for the hell of it. And I didn't sign up for that.
Hell, not even Spartacus, for all it's blood and gore and rape, ever got this damn depraved for no purpose.
This is Reek. Reek, who was willing to watch his own sister nearly be killed for trying to rescue him. OF COURSE he wasn't going to do shit!
Like, that scene served literally NO PURPOSE. It was the writers once again being sadistic just for the hell of it. And I didn't sign up for that.
Hell, not even Spartacus, for all it's blood and gore and rape, ever got this damn depraved for no purpose.
Velcro Fly
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Yeah that was stomach turning.
I mean people complained about the Jamie/Cersei scene from a season or two back being rape.
Uh yeah this was definitely worse.
I mean people complained about the Jamie/Cersei scene from a season or two back being rape.
Uh yeah this was definitely worse.
I just checked, yeah it was Bronn. RIP in peace
BlackGhost
Banned
That was probably the last straw for Sansa mentally though.
Time for the revenge tour!
Time for the revenge tour!
Pretty much how I felt about the scene.
Cheap fucking shock value to keep people watching through a season of shit, shit storylines. Sad what this has devolved into.
I do think they'll get it back together, but I don't think it will be this season. What really worries me is where the directorial / cinematographic talent has gone. So few interesting shots, incompetent action scenes... just feels like we've gone low budget all of a sudden and I don't get it.
I would say that the audience has had this thought about 10 times at this stage. Like the boy who cried wolf, I reckon it never fucking happens. Even if it does, we've now spent so long watching one girl get tortured that I'm not sure I care anymore, I'm not sure it's worth it.
I said Dorne and Winterfell...
As long as he frees the other two dragons.
I hope they're building to a point where Ramsay subjects them to so much that he snaps and fucking does something.
robotzombie
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Is it bad that I care more about what happened to Bronn than what happened to Sansa?
Disagree. Thought some of the shots in this episode were fantastic.
WesternHeretic
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I'm telling you guys man this is her rock bottom so she can grow to be the new cersi. Makes too much sense... she has to go through the ropes to understand people so she can play / manipulate them later.
Like...the fuck...
Remember when Joffery was the worst evil on this show? Good times.
Remember when Joffery was the worst evil on this show? Good times.
Yeah I don't know why people expected Theon to suddenly step up. He's a shell of a man.
No. I'm hoping to god he'll be ok. Bronn is one of the few true bros in this fucking series and he can't die. He just can't!
Succinct Verbosity
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If that didn't make him snap then what the fuck could, because I don't think I've been as uncomfortable watching a show as I did just now.
Yeah, getting really tired of how her characterization keeps going back to helpless and meek whenever there is a hint of progression to her character.
ComputerBlue
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Reek is a piece of shit and a coward.
But, I don't think he was supposed to give Sansa away as Theon of house Greyjoy...It made me think that he was actually going to do something at the end, but he didn't. He's been so mentally mutilated that it will probably take a few more instances of us having to watch Sansa getting tortured before he snaps out of it and does something, because you know he will.
But, I don't think he was supposed to give Sansa away as Theon of house Greyjoy...It made me think that he was actually going to do something at the end, but he didn't. He's been so mentally mutilated that it will probably take a few more instances of us having to watch Sansa getting tortured before he snaps out of it and does something, because you know he will.
ClivePwned
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This season doesn't have the massive "oh shit" moments peppered throughout like Season 4- Joffrey's death, Tyrion's Trial, the Mountain and the Viper.
The tension this season is palpable. Its like a boiling pot with the lid rattling ready to explode.
We have a shortcut to Jorah and Tyrion getting to Mereen.
We have Jaime and Bronn captured, and the Sand Snakes and Elya.
Ayra ready for her face/off
Sansa, Ramsay and Reek
The situation in King's Landing. Oh jeez, this is killing me waiting for this to resolve.
and that's just this episode. We didn't see any of Stannis, Brienne, Night's Watch or Dany's troubles. And we still have Robomountain in the wings.
on balance, especially once we have some resolutions, this season will be a fascinating one to rewatch.
The tension this season is palpable. Its like a boiling pot with the lid rattling ready to explode.
We have a shortcut to Jorah and Tyrion getting to Mereen.
We have Jaime and Bronn captured, and the Sand Snakes and Elya.
Ayra ready for her face/off
Sansa, Ramsay and Reek
The situation in King's Landing. Oh jeez, this is killing me waiting for this to resolve.
and that's just this episode. We didn't see any of Stannis, Brienne, Night's Watch or Dany's troubles. And we still have Robomountain in the wings.
on balance, especially once we have some resolutions, this season will be a fascinating one to rewatch.
I thought she might be ready to play the game after going to The Vale, guess not lol. Looks like she is still just there as a whipping tool like you said.
I like The Boltons, Ramsay doesn't play around with his toys, he gone get it in.
Chie Satonaka
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As horrid as Joffery was, and he was fucking terrible, he was a coward at heart, and would at least back down when REAL power put him in his place.
Ramsay is a fucking monster, and I'm not even sure Roose can keep him completely in check.
He looked pretty angry at the end, I don't know. Instead of being one thing that makes him snap, a collection of all this stuff happening to Sansa. Just what I thin.
Or hope. He can't carry on being a worthless little cuntweasel the entire time surely.
That was far worse than the red wedding for me, that was impossible to watch. I looked away and turned the volume down to get the gist of what was happening. It was utterly revolting. Gratuitous.
BlackGhost
Banned
I definitely feel like Sansa is gonna get hers.
Succinct Verbosity
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I thought Sansa actually had a pretty strong episode. Yeah, she got raped on her wedding night. So did Dany. It's hardly a death-knell for a female character in this series. I think she will only grow stronger from here
I think the scene was necessary after holding her virginity on a pedestal for the last 3 or 4 seasons, they couldn't just reference losing it later -- we all knew it was coming at some point and that it would be bad
I think the scene was necessary after holding her virginity on a pedestal for the last 3 or 4 seasons, they couldn't just reference losing it later -- we all knew it was coming at some point and that it would be bad
If watching Ramsey rape the girl who was practically raised as his sister didn't make Theon snap, it's going to take a herculean effort on the part of the writers to concoct a believable scene in which he does snap.
Like, it's coming obviously, but I don't think Theon finally snapping will be worth all the repetitive bullshit we had to sit through before it happened.
Chie Satonaka
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I'm not even joking. I didn't know if it was Theon or someone else, but I thought that someone or SOMETHING was going to stop it.
And then my face just fell when I realized, "Oh, this is really actually going to happen."
Danny got raped in early in season 1 and they showed it on screen.
iNvid02
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i just didnt think reek would be standing in the corner of the fucking room though. ramsay needs to die before this season is out.
and theon needs to do something as well, his shtick of being treated like a piece of shit is wearing thin. either try to make up for your wrongs or kill yourself you cunt
the_firewithin
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Plus after rooses Lil tale of love last week people had to see that coming right
IAmRandom31
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That's horrible fucking storytelling if that is what the writers are going for. They want THEON to be a knight in shining armor? Fuck that he mutilates and burns children and stabbed the Starks in the back to take Winterfell so he could feel good in front of daddy. Fuck Theon.
The whole north storyline right now has been a clusterfuck of stupid ever since Theon went to the iron islands. It's so bad that we are now hoping for Theon fucking Greyjoy to save us.
I dunno. I said last week I was just not feeling any of these stories going on and that goes double now. What training is Arya receiving? Lying training? That's fuckin exciting stuff. The Jamie and Bronn story looks to be ending as idiotic as it began. Brienne remains worthless to basically everything.
Now Sansa gets to be a crying torture victim who will try and escape somehow and hey that's exactly what Ramsay wants so he can go on another hunt. I doubt Roose even gives a shit unless word gets out about what's happening.
Just so fucking dumb. I'm close to just reading after show comments each week until I hear about a good episode worth watching. It's getting pretty ridiculous at this point
TheLostBigBoss
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Really? I mean, I know this amounts to rape, and having Theon watch Sansa get raped is horrible, but the Boltons are fucking horrible people. Their sigil is a fucking man skinned, most likely alive.
That scene is Sansa's first true taste of the monster that Ramsey is.
Flacracker
Banned
They should have waited until all of the books were out before making this show.
And yet somehow you were fine with on screen rape by Khal Drogo four seasons ago. How odd.
It's clearly going to serve a purpose no matter how often you hold down the shift key.
BlackGhost
Banned
Even if theon does help Sansa......I don't even think I care what happens to him at this Point
what books?
Man this episode was really dark but another good one. I have to agree though that the whole Dorne subplot had been pretty half-baked. I guess there's only so much time/money to devote to each story so something has to suffer.
Very nice performance by Maisie this episode and Alfie Allen continues to be amazing. It's too bad his part is probably too small to get nominated for anything. That's maybe the toughest part to play on the whole show and he does it so well.
Very nice performance by Maisie this episode and Alfie Allen continues to be amazing. It's too bad his part is probably too small to get nominated for anything. That's maybe the toughest part to play on the whole show and he does it so well.
They didn't show anything. How did you deal with Dany getting raped on screen?
It feels half-baked and really low budget. Reminds me of the Yunkai nonsense. It's bad. Especially if Bronn gets killed by that cut
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