I feel like it's been telegraphed from a mile away that Stannis' wife is going to kill the girl.
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I feel like it's been telegraphed from a mile away that Stannis' wife is going to kill the girl.
liliththepale
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What specifically makes you think she's fit to rule? I don't think having good intentions or being "next in line" are sufficient qualifiers if you can't adequately act upon either. Danaerys has left a trail of destruction everywhere she goes, and the people in Westeros aren't interested in yet another royal upheaval.
My prediction is that Ramsay will end up killing her and the wife. Stannis would never hurt his daughter. He's the fucking man.
Jon is bound until death, but I guess if he dies and is resurrected?
ComputerBlue
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I was completely against it and hated that it's even a consideration. But then last night happened and I wrote this, just copy/pasting.
it really feels like Shireen has to die, Stannis has to be around to see the end, The warrior of light, who wields the Lightbringer. Meli hasn't been grooming him to rule the 7 kingdoms, she's been preparing him for the White Walkers.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
If that happens he better slit her throat... on the fucking spot.
does that even count though? but yeah... telegraphed as much as Olly fucking this up
yikes.
as of now I am just going to assume it is only things killed by a wight/undead or white walker that they can raise. I think they would have focused on the King of Bones reincarnating if it was any dead, unless I missed them showing him.
I think the wight/reincarnated crow from season 1 was presumably killed by walkers while with Benjen.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
This I could see happening actually.
GIANKRATOS
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Holy shit. Just watched the episode
Arrow through the brainpan yet not even slowed down. Good luck killing that.
Why was the giant the only one using fire!?
Pretty sure Bran and his marry adventures is going to involve dragons. You will fly and all that.
As for the wall, that is why it was built, I would imagine, but we haven't seen all of their forces yet. Even the wildlings were not deterred by the wall
Really? I thought it was finally going somewhere this episode. I would have agreed with you last week
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
He wasn't using fire as much as smashing them around with a wooden bean partly on fire.
I'm going to guess those fools didn't have enough time to ready some incendiary arrows, let alone proper defences against an army of undead soldiers.
Psychoward
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That's not true at all, Season 3 had Jaime's hand getting cut off and Dany getting the Unsullied all early in the season, Season 2 had Renly's assassination and Theon's betrayal, Season 1 was more of a world-building, plot-driven season and in that context had lots of twists and turns with Ned's storyline - Bran getting pushed out the tower, Ned realizing the Lannister incest etc.
Season 5 has undoubtedly been the weakest season so far.
Go_Ly_Dow
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The wildlings tried to climb! Hopefully we get to see the WW's attempt to scale the wall by seasons end.
ComputerBlue
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The wall is 300 feet high and according to old nan (read below) snows fall 100 feet deep and that's probably not as far north so there's a good chance that it could snow far more than 100 feet in the deep north.
Funky Papa
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2spooky4me
This season has Sansa going home to marry a Bolton then finding Theon, Stannis executing Mance and leading an army to Winterfell, Jon becoming Lord Commander, executing Slynt, then going to Hardhome, Cersei enabling the Faith Militant, using them to imprison her enemies, then falling victim to them herself with the help of Littlefinger and Olenna, Jorah capturing Tyrion then getting stone plague, Barristan being killed then Dany executing one master with her dragons, and marrying another, Tyrion becoming Dany's advisor, and more besides.
Go_Ly_Dow
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They really should have been doing that every waking hour while they were sitting on their thumbs in Hardhome.
Can Crusher
Banned
Amazing episode. Hope John Snow doesn't die.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
basically lost hope there, and given the track record of this show, I lost hope too.
I was too impressed and inspired with last night, had to do something this morning
cr_blah_blah
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I look forward to Ramsey taking his shirt off and destroying a thousand men just because who cares about logic when you can be omg that's so cr-azy.
He'll only need 20 men... with children strapped to them as meat shields.
Because he's so evillll man.
That'd be my guess as well. If Bran doesn't warg into a dragon, this show will have missed an amazing opportunity.
Dragon1893
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Holy fuck! When this show goes all out there's nothing else like it.
He wouldn't tell his own wife that he didn't infact cheat on her? I remember Caitlyn feeling awful about how she was being punished for not viewing Jon as a son.
ComputerBlue
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Maybe he couldn't trust that she would keep a lid on it, even treating him other than a bastard might have raised suspicion and may have gotten not only Jon killed, but probably the rest of the family as well.
Advocatus Diaboli
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Yeah, but two things: Ned and Catelyn, like other nobles, had an arranged marriage; they grew to love and trust each other after time. But we don't know exactly when that turning point happened. Also, knowing Ned, if this were true, he was probably sworn to secrecy.
It's plausible that the safest course of action, for both Jon and his marriage, was for Ned to continue the ruse, enjoy the fact that he and Catelyn worked past the common enough "indiscretion" and emerged with a loving marriage, yet also incorporate Jon into the family, so to speak.
lastplayed
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A Song of Ice and Fire.
Dynasty8
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basically lost hope there, and given the track record of this show, I lost hope too.
I was too impressed and inspired with last night, had to do something this morning
Looks great!
YesNOnoNOYes
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Saw episode. Was alright. Had better energy than the previous ones. I like Tyrion's scenes. I miss the dwarf. He needs to bounce back to the sharp-edged political mind that I know he is. It was nice, him counselling Dany.
Cersei lol
The zombies attack was okay. Quite fun. Jon's smashing one of the headhonchos into a million iceflakes was a bit abrupt, but yeah okay. I like the leaderzombies design. Fits well with "white walker"
Arya's arc is not very engaging to me, atm
Cersei lol
The zombies attack was okay. Quite fun. Jon's smashing one of the headhonchos into a million iceflakes was a bit abrupt, but yeah okay. I like the leaderzombies design. Fits well with "white walker"
Arya's arc is not very engaging to me, atm
Oh LORD what an episode! So THATS where the budget went, maaan it really shows.
The choreography and special effects were like a big budget movie, and unlike the previous GoT battles this felt like a real slog. Perfectly paced with lots of thrills...and that ending! I thought Jon was going to die or atleast be cut down in some way.
What a battle.
The choreography and special effects were like a big budget movie, and unlike the previous GoT battles this felt like a real slog. Perfectly paced with lots of thrills...and that ending! I thought Jon was going to die or atleast be cut down in some way.
What a battle.
Alright, I do have to admit that the Sparrow/Tyrell/Lannister story has been a good one. That said, I don't think it was a serious struggle until the jailing of Cersei. Marjory and Loris hadn't actually exerted much influence. She had only got started with Tommen, but leverage didn't translate into much with him being spineless. I sort of see her jailing as inconsequential until Cersei was jailed. The Crown went from being a useless pushover torn between two people to being a useless pushover with nobody to push him. If Littlefinger had occupied that vacuum or Lady Tyrrell, that would have been a big shift. If they had focused more on the shift of popular support from Crown to Church, without so much exposition, that would have been a fantastic story. In short, loved the arc, but thought the focus was off and the pace was slow.
As for Danerys, she is in the same position as the end of the last season - a bumbling ruler in a city she doesn't understand. Sure, she has Tyrion at her side, but that hasn't stopped the Harpies or anything and there are two episodes left. Whatever happens, it will seem to jump from a standstill or reverse.
While Jon has a change of title, I don't see his relationship with the Watch to be very different. Essentially outcast, seen by many as a traitor, and Sam is in danger without him there.
Stannis is still plotting conquest but with no gains in the seven kingdoms. Still moving pieces on a map in the firelight.
Sansa, well, same situation, different sadist.
I know I probably sound terribly pessimistic. Thing is, I do love the show and this season. It feels very very different and, until recently, was leaning slightly more towards soap opera pacing than I'd like.
I think Tyrion may be the first person to tell Dany, "Hey, maybe you should just forget this whole Westeros thing." Other characters have advised her to wait and build up power, but Tyrion was flat out telling her to stay in Essos. He went through all of the major houses, but he didn't mention the Martells. Tyrion makes Dany bearable, and he seems to have quite a bit of influence over her already.
Warms my heart seeing his lad achieving greatness.- Status