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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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What kind of spoilers? All books?
planar1280
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is it me or do episodes with the least amount of sex/nudity end up being the best, especially season 2
Of course I believe it, and my point about music in HBO programming has yet to be argued against. At the same time, if you magically waved your hands and made Game of Thrones have an amazing soundtrack that works just right, obviously I wouldn't complain. It would be magic after all.
My point is that music is not what's holding the show back.
Rome had a top-notch OST.
Huge spoilers obviously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj8yq_urL5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZPY3vnacc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J78opIpP-Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND_FmSdO8B4
Huge spoilers obviously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj8yq_urL5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZPY3vnacc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J78opIpP-Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND_FmSdO8B4
JoJoShabadoo
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So, wait. Something well done is magic now? No wonder so many people accept this show.
You use dramas like Six Feet Under as your example, when this is a fantasy series. The exact type of genre that requires a memorable score.
Furthermore, no-one ever said the music is solely what's holding the show back. They just added it to the long list.
I don't think my point was hard to comprehend. I said that the show didn't need an "epic" soundtrack. You responded that if the show hypothetically had some universally beloved OST I wouldn't complain. True enough. Then I responded that if you hypothetically ("magically") assume those ends, of course I can't disagree with the means.
Nor did I claim it was the sole complaint. Merely an example of a wrong-headed one.
Very minor stuff regarding things that didn't happen or have happened in the book ACOK and vice versa. Obvious because that's the point of the article since it's a comparison.
There is one kind of major thing regarding Robb concerning when he meets Jayne in the books
which would reveal he doesn't die this season
JoJoShabadoo
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Well then why the hell is this even a discussion hahahaha.
PhoenixDark
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I like GoT's music overall, but I just don't like how small it often sounds, or the robotic cues that trigger the same music over and over. Uh oh something tense is happening, here are some dramatic low strings! Those Rome clips illustrate the type of dynamic score I had hoped Thrones would have.
blainethemono
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Yup, Jeff Beal is amazing. I own the Carnivale and Rome soundtracks. This is the level of quality the music on Game of Thrones could have reached
http://youtu.be/HyUrAjehs-w
http://youtu.be/QOlAJgCELTc
http://youtu.be/T20PLsUZsZA
Some of GAF will be there eventually.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Eventually?
I think GoT has awesome music. The music that began with Theons last scene and rolled through the credits was perfect. Its also real dope how they kinda roll the opening music into scenes in the actual show. Like its never the same at all, it usually fits the mood of whatever scene. I straight up whistle that opening song all day Sunday
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's silly to suggest everyone has to go back 5+ pages to figure out what you're so mad about when nobody is talking about your particular criticisms anymore and haven't been for hours or days. I simply don't understand why you're continuing to post when you don't have anything relevant to say about the show. Even if you just say whatever your earlier point was again, it's better than just vaguely complaining you don't like it without any context non-stop for 12+ hours. Just adding in pointless, totally nebulous metacriticisms like "your posts read like an angry teenager!" don't actually convert non-content posting into content posting. Even your attempted pithy reply is just you taking what I just said and changing it to just claim I'm the one doing it without any evidence to support it. It still has no substantive Games of Thrones content.
Discotheque
Banned
The showrunners made Troy. What did you expect from these people? I actually think it's better than expectations because I was expecting some SHIT. It's decent. I think I like Borgias more, but then that show has Jeremy Irons. Who can compete with him?!!!
edit: oh man, the score is definitely lacking. Bear McCreary isn't doing much now, they should have just hired him. Giving everything it's own distinctive theme and sound would be incredible for a show like this with so many different houses/areas. The noob they got on this show sucks. I don't know how he managed to pull off Theon's theme but that's a fluke as far as I'm concerned.
PushTheButtonMax
Banned
Does anyone know if they actually use any real instruments for the score? During the credits of the latest episode, the strings sounded like I plugged in my old keyboard and punched in "34" to pull up the violin sound. It was particularly awful sounding.
This is the one filled with nerds.
This is the one filled with nerds.
What does that mean? ;___;
This one contains comical levels - and types - of bitching. Rez has been reasonable enough, but most of the other complaints are hilarious, especially the guy who was going on about extras during the Jaime scene. Powerful levels of nerdling insanity there.
Alternate answer: the other thread pretends that the books don't exist.
It's just a joke based on the fact people have been criticizing the show and they're saying they're nerdpicking.
This thread is filled with bookreaders while the other one isn't. If you haven't read the books I'd probably recommend the other one, as there is too much hinting in this one and there's the occasional untagged spoiler.
oooh got it thanks
ill post in both then xDHavent read them yet but i will gladly participate in both
Discotheque
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This is the one that's aware of Joffrey killing Tyrion in Book 3 yo.[/spoilerr]
Discotheque
Banned
haha I was joking. Just a little misdirection.
oh LOL
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Song of Ice and Fire thread talks about the TV series too, although it's not the central topic and in a totally unspoilered context which assumes by default you are finished with Dance with Dragons.
ThisWreckage
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What's the deal with the woman that wears a mask in Qarth? I don't remember her from the books whatsoever.
I HATE it when shows show you something interesting at the first episode, then pretend they never mentioned it- only to FUCKING hint at it at the last episode or as a premier for the next season. I am talking about the stupid fucking winter that is supposedly coming since fucking day one. And then they have the audacity to use that phrase for the second season posters.
Also, WTF is going on? The first few episodes shows a clear story. Now, all I am getting are what feel like stand alone random episodes where the ONLY interesting thing happening in an hour is the last 30 fucking seconds aaaaaand then they forget about it the next episode.
WTF is going on here? 2nd season is almost over and NOTHING fucking major happened!
Also, WTF is going on? The first few episodes shows a clear story. Now, all I am getting are what feel like stand alone random episodes where the ONLY interesting thing happening in an hour is the last 30 fucking seconds aaaaaand then they forget about it the next episode.
WTF is going on here? 2nd season is almost over and NOTHING fucking major happened!
Winter is coming is the slogan of the House of Stark.
As a non-book reader, I understand it to mean that the Starks are always prepared for hard times, and they are ever aware of a dark time which has recently passed.
So the winter encompasses both the preparation for war and suffering, as well as the unknown forces (wildlings, dragons, and other things that bring chaos and destruction). Basically the unknown and the world beyond the wall.
As a non-book reader, I understand it to mean that the Starks are always prepared for hard times, and they are ever aware of a dark time which has recently passed.
So the winter encompasses both the preparation for war and suffering, as well as the unknown forces (wildlings, dragons, and other things that bring chaos and destruction). Basically the unknown and the world beyond the wall.
ThisWreckage
Banned
It's a problem that stems from the second book. I tend to agree---there haven't been too many holy shit moments in the second season.
It's like that in the books too. Clash of Kings has a great finale though.
Storm of Swords though, hooo boy, that will be a great season.
Just avoid all discussion.
*ACOK*
She is Quaithe, the mysterious priestess of Asshai who briefly comes to Dany in Qarth and offers this prophecy: "To go north, you must journey south, to reach the west you must go east. To go forward you must go back and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow." Her interactions with Jorah are 100% new.
Such an awesome line. Hopefully they don't neglect it.
I don't understand why almost the entire criticism to the series is being concentrated on S2, which is leaps and bounds better than the first season which was at times, borderline mediocre (sans for the two last episodes). Bigger scope, better acting, less retarded sexposition, more focus, thematic consistence within each episode... yet, alas, gaf is full of complaints, most of them revolving around "this is not how things are suppoused to be in the book".
Yes, some great book moments won't be included in the series (the Tickler death, for example), but it has in turn gave great moments of its own too (<3 Tywin -Ayra, Ygritte trolling, and so forth). It's its own thing, and I think that it has been able to convey the same powerful themes and stories of the book without taking too much compromises. Of course there are things to improve (the direction of some episodes is formulaic and pedrestian, soundtrack does not convinces me, some character's potrayal's like Stannis are off the mark, etc), but I did noticed a huge quality improvement as the show progressed (and deviated from the books), not vice - versa.
Yes, some great book moments won't be included in the series (the Tickler death, for example), but it has in turn gave great moments of its own too (<3 Tywin -Ayra, Ygritte trolling, and so forth). It's its own thing, and I think that it has been able to convey the same powerful themes and stories of the book without taking too much compromises. Of course there are things to improve (the direction of some episodes is formulaic and pedrestian, soundtrack does not convinces me, some character's potrayal's like Stannis are off the mark, etc), but I did noticed a huge quality improvement as the show progressed (and deviated from the books), not vice - versa.
How do you people stop comparing the show to the books? I know I would probably enjoy it more if I wasn't thinking "this is wrong, where are the reeds, why is Cersei being nice, why is Arya happy" throughout every episode, but I just can't help it.
I feel like I'm only watching it just to see an adaptation, and this is a bad adaptation like everyone keeps saying. I'm obviously not watching it for the story, because I've already experienced the story in a better medium.
I feel like I'm only watching it just to see an adaptation, and this is a bad adaptation like everyone keeps saying. I'm obviously not watching it for the story, because I've already experienced the story in a better medium.
British Monsoon
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I just stopped. Right after they gutted Arya's story, I said "WTF? That's not how it's supposed to happen!" and then quickly realised that it's just not all that important.
At the end of the day, would you rather the creators rush through the books faithfully, only being able to touch upon on or gloss over certain subjects for the sake of fitting near enough everything in, or would you rather they sacrifice more to present a story that, while different from the source material, is generally more coherent, given the 10 episode per-season format?
So in a land where Summers can last for a decade you want it to be Winter right away without a transition? :lol
Plus this:
Well the problem is that it does feel much less focused. One reason is not really the show's fault, but book 2 introduces quite a lot of new players and there's also a lot of new perspectives added due to the fact that characters are seperated. So with the same amount of time, they now have to deal with much more to cover. This won't get any better so I'm not sure how they're gonna deal with that.
Book 2 also has roughly the same amount of major/WTF moments, but it's treated poorly/rushed in the show. Renly's assassination, Winterfell's fall, etc.
Add to this some serious departure from the books, and I can totally understand the criticism so far.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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For the people mentioning the score, I believe that in the case of the first season it was done at the last minute, a few weeks before broadcast even. This season's been a bit better, with a few recognisable themes reoccurring.
This is a problem with the direction. Major things have happened in the book at this point but those things seem to have pushed back into the final episodes. Like Arya already used her final name and Dany already went into the warlocks house well before the events of this episodes with Jon, Theon, Catelyn, and Jaime happened.
Bran and Rickon dying was supposed to be a major event, but I think they screwed that up.
Catelyn and Jaime's conversation was supposed to be a major event. It's a very revealing talk in the book, but they've shorted that up into a 2 minute scene. And since it's out of order, it has much less weight.
Discotheque
Banned
Bran and Rickon scene was screwed up big time!
book 2 spoiler
It was a surprise for me reading the book until the end, but with the way the show handled it it kinda ruins the finale. I dread what they'll do with the BIG shocker events in season 3.
book 2 spoiler
my freaking sister guessed that they weren't dead since they literally point out a house with TWO children earlier in the episode
It was a surprise for me reading the book until the end, but with the way the show handled it it kinda ruins the finale. I dread what they'll do with the BIG shocker events in season 3.
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