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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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I agree, it's not Emilia's fault, it's the writing. And the writing on her side of things has been mostly new.
Honestly I don't know what kind of expectations to have for this thing. The battle is supposed to take up the entire episode, right?
Honestly I don't know what kind of expectations to have for this thing. The battle is supposed to take up the entire episode, right?
She comes off weaker this season than the last.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, I think Emilia's weakness mainly comes down to the writing being poor this season and the need to add to her story without bothering to make the additions all that good.
I just want to say that the Robb scenes this season have been a complete fucking waste. I'd rather have Jayne just randomly pop up like she does in the books. I thought having more scenes for him this season would be a good idea because we might get a glimpse of some battles and him fighting but we got like a 2 minute scene of him out on the rain as Greywind attacked two guys. Hell, they didn't even show Greywind's carnage. I so don't care for the romance between him and Jayne. So freaking boring. Not to mention it's a weak introduction to their relationship.
Btw, given how different the Harrenhal stuff was do you guys think
Btw, given how different the Harrenhal stuff was do you guys think
Jaqhen changed his face? I thought I read in an interview that they were going to show it but how are they going to get around to that now? What will be the set up? I doubt anyone living saw him kill those guards. What would be the point of changing your face?
I suppose we will get some Daenerys scenes. I'm not sure how this is going to end, since including her could destroy the pacing of the battle.
To be honest, even in the book her storyline was weak.
The main character of Girls should play Yara, I would love to see the reactions.
Exactly. Any fool should be able to see she hasn't had much to work with this year.
PhoenixDark
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I wonder how many people will simply not tune in due to the holiday, and just assume "the battle will just be blacked out anyway, I'll watch it later."
I think they said [ACOK and Season 2]
it was fifteen minutes long. I'm not sure if that means 15 minutes of pure big budget battle though. They may include scenes of preparations and speeches in that 15 minutes.
Confirmed that Stannis joins the battle.
Cornballer
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ThisWreckage
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It has nothing to do with the written material. Her delivery of the lines is terrible.
Emilia Clarke was and is fantastic, she is a true dragon. I loved the performance by the actor who plays Jorah in episode 9, was kind of moving actually. Just give these fantastic actors room to act and this show works much better, the show runners don't need to come up with pointless plot changes. If [ACOK]
Oh I see. So we are getting [ACOK]
House of Undying is in episode 9, then it may turn out to be a one hour special effects orgy considering blackwater will also be there.
Oh I see. So we are getting [ACOK]
one hour battle. Though it may not be entirely inaccurate to say that the full "battle" meaning the special effects and swords part is 16-20 minutes considering all the in between stuff that you have to cover.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
...what? Why would anyone do or think that?
Chuck Norris
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He'll be compelling, but even he stops doing anything interesting eventually. He's kind of just around, still training with his other hand but not doing a great deal
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I think that's the real point about this story. Everyone stops doing anything interesting eventually. This is why in a lot of ways I find the show better 'raw' entertainment. Less waiting for someone to do something.
And anyway, if you want to talk about what non-readers are going to be must shocked/confused/muddled about given what they've seen now, it isn't the obvious one, its (big ADWD spoiler)
Bran turns into a tree. A tree. Try telling someone that now with a straight face. Then tell them The Redding Wedding. And see what has the more fun reaction.
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well he didn't really get to do much post-SOS.
what? this happened?
Harry Potter
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vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
Come on people, label the spoilers.
StriKeVillain
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Omg at Desmond. :lol
He woulda been a great Davos.
Don't you think non-readers are going to feel
by the long anticipated Blackwater battle?
(series, BIG spoilers)
underwhelmed (in spoiler, just to be safe)
(series, BIG spoilers)
the battle decides the winner of the War of the Five Kings, but you can understand that only knowing what happens in ASOS. For a non-reader I think the reaction could be something like "so what?"
Robb is still somewhere doing something against the Lannister
Stannis has lost the battle but oh well, him, Davos and Melisandre are still alive, nothing changed from the beginning of the season
Nothing changes for the Greyjoys
None of notice die in King's Landing, especially not Joffrey. And most of the amazing stuff like the chain are probably gone in the TV series
It's really difficult to convey the strenght of a Tyrell-Lannister alliance andthe definitive failure for Stannis. Stannis side needed a lot more screentime.
Robb is still somewhere doing something against the Lannister
Stannis has lost the battle but oh well, him, Davos and Melisandre are still alive, nothing changed from the beginning of the season
Nothing changes for the Greyjoys
None of notice die in King's Landing, especially not Joffrey. And most of the amazing stuff like the chain are probably gone in the TV series
It's really difficult to convey the strenght of a Tyrell-Lannister alliance andthe definitive failure for Stannis. Stannis side needed a lot more screentime.
Harry Potter
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This was a nice touch. She's wearing it in her scene with Theon in season 1 (episode 5), and Theon notices it and comments that the dwarf is a good tipper. ("I guess gold is cheap for a Lannister.")
Buckethead
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Nice necklace.
Tee hee.
Tee hee.
S3/4 should have
SOS
Jaime, Arya, Jon, Davos, Robb, Cat
Lots of goodies to go around.
/cue long debate about the first name on my list
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Chuck Norris
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(ADWD spoiler)
lol, I think I'm still in denial about that one, that will take some interesting turns. He is going to be a tree, and we are going to have all these scenes of Theon and Jon etc. looking at trees and wondering why the tree is talking
They are doing a pretty poor job of showing his powers at the moment
They are doing a pretty poor job of showing his powers at the moment
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I can't wait for ADWD/AFFC to see how they adapt them. They're going to have to alter the hell out of them, and I'm not 100% that they'll even be able to alter them for the better. It'll be interesting for sure.
DrForester
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So I finished up season 1, shortly after finishing up the first book. Will hold off on the 2nd season till I'm done with the book.
Overall the series is very well done. Like the look of the various cities, and The Wall. Love the cast (with a few exceptions). Also thought it was smart to make Jon and Rob older than the books. I did the first book via Audio Book, and the guy who did the narration and voices was amazing. Credit to the show for not making me miss his voices.
Dislikes:
-Vaes Dothrak. For all the high production values, it seemed really cheap. You never get a good view of the Mother of Mountains (doesn't even appear on the opening map). Everything seemed confined to one tent set they just redressed.
-Cersei. I just don't care for the actress. I've seen and liked her in other things, but she does not fit the look for this role.
-Nudity for the sake of nudity. It's in the book, and it fits, but all too often it seemed like they just tossed it into the background or into scenes in places it wasn't in the book, just becasue they could.
-Pacing. There were several scenes where the lines were read by characters in one long sentence. No pauses between character lines, like they were trying to get through the scene as soon as possible (Ned's first small council meeting for one).
I am also very thankful I didn't read much about the show and never knew Sean Bean played Ned. Would have totally spoiled it for me.
Overall the series is very well done. Like the look of the various cities, and The Wall. Love the cast (with a few exceptions). Also thought it was smart to make Jon and Rob older than the books. I did the first book via Audio Book, and the guy who did the narration and voices was amazing. Credit to the show for not making me miss his voices.
Dislikes:
-Vaes Dothrak. For all the high production values, it seemed really cheap. You never get a good view of the Mother of Mountains (doesn't even appear on the opening map). Everything seemed confined to one tent set they just redressed.
-Cersei. I just don't care for the actress. I've seen and liked her in other things, but she does not fit the look for this role.
-Nudity for the sake of nudity. It's in the book, and it fits, but all too often it seemed like they just tossed it into the background or into scenes in places it wasn't in the book, just becasue they could.
-Pacing. There were several scenes where the lines were read by characters in one long sentence. No pauses between character lines, like they were trying to get through the scene as soon as possible (Ned's first small council meeting for one).
I am also very thankful I didn't read much about the show and never knew Sean Bean played Ned. Would have totally spoiled it for me.
Dude, you really shouldn't be spoiling the story for yourself like this. Read the books... they're worth it.
I don't envy the producers. It's going to be a mess.
Wouldn't that actually be easier for them? Since it's mostly character development?
Two books as one split into two seasons.
DeathbyVolcano
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Wait, is this a popular opinion around here? I STRONGLY disagree with this. Ned, ultimately, WAS an honorable character in the books, and I always imagined someone akin to Bean playing him in a live-action version.
Basileus777
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There are too many locations and too many characters for it to work on a TV budget. And there's also the problem that very little about those books would make for compelling television. ADWD in particular is essentially unfilmable. They are going to have to cut out a ton of stuff and restructure everything.
That is the vibe I got on second re-watch. EDIT: I did not say Ned is a dishonorable character, only that SB seemed to try to hard.
But most of the plot happens on the same sets/places with talks, if IRC.
Emerson
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I've heard a lot of criticisms in my time, but this is absolutely the first time I've heard this one. Astonishing.
I'm not the type that gets so hung up on the destination that I can't enjoy the journey.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
My favorite part about the non-spoiler thread is people who have clearly read the books posting "predictions" which they clearly just know already.
Seriously, and it sucks too, because you can't call them out because then people will know what will happen :|
No. Everyone loves Ned and Sean Bean's performance.
I will put my answer in series spoilers just incase I reveal something about either character that was not revealed on the show, but there is nothing particularly spoilerish about what I have written below.
series spoiler:
I will admit that the Ned of the show is a bit harder and more of a warrior than book Ned but Sean Bean got the heart of the character completely right. We don't know Brandon and Ned was a changed man after the experience of fighting a war. So just because Brandon is described as an alpha male and young Ned is a bit of a shy kid doesn't mean that Sean Bean was not right for the role of Ned. It's best not to make too much out of small revelations about characters within the books. Also book Ned sounds a bit more nerdy/proper because he is speaking very proper english whereas the show is a little less formal in the way the characters speak. There were many times when Sean Bean demonstrated the vulnerable and nervous side of Ned.
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