StriKeVillain
Banned
Fantastic episode. I need more Tyrion though.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
- Thread starter Cornballer
- Start date
- Status
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Liam Cunningham's portrayal of Davos is so delightful. I'll go even farther and say he's improving the character somewhat. There's a bit of humor with him where Davos is a bit somber in the books.
Oh, I agree. I think most of the sex scenes serve a purpose. Even if they don't advance the plot, they add to the characterization. Even the scene with Ros in this episode, I think they're just hammering to us how much of a dick Littlefinger is. It just seems like it's all everybody talks about.
Definitely. I already liked Davos but Liam adds a little extra something that makes him even more like-able.
Cornballer
Member
Content roundup for The Night Lands:
Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- memles
- WiC.net
- Onion A|V Club
- televisonary
- EW.com
- Westeros.org
- Maureen Ryan
HBO Content:
- Inside the Episode (HBO video)
- Preview for next week's episode: "What Is Dead May Never Die" (youtube, please spoiler tag any discussion.)
Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- memles
- WiC.net
- Onion A|V Club
- televisonary
- EW.com
- Westeros.org
- Maureen Ryan
HBO Content:
- Inside the Episode (HBO video)
- Preview for next week's episode: "What Is Dead May Never Die" (youtube, please spoiler tag any discussion.)
bengraven
Member
haha holy shit, I never noticed Davos' face.
I hate that they combined his sons though. This kid is basically the combination of his scholarly, pious son and a hardcore badass son. And somehow that created "droopy eyed, cowardly religious zealot" son.
This, all the way. We all loved Davos because he is honorable, but making him less bleak has improved the character greatly.
Yeah, it's a bit weird. It's like people have forgotten what book series this is based on. The book has a sex scene or some reference to "fucking" or "cunts" or "my cock in ______" or random rapings every other chapter. Plus, we're all mostly guys and guys like sex. Most of us were weaned on late night softcore porn on Skinemax. What's the fucking issue? haha
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
StriKeVillain
Banned
I think the GAfers living with their parents have the biggest problem. I've never had an issue with the sex in the series.
The sex scenes aren't an issue for me personally but I would like to watch with family and friends without having to worry about some over the top and unnecessary sex scene. Aside from that I just think it limits the audience for the show, fantasies can bring in a lot of different viewers with different sensitivities and I want this franchise to have has big an audience as possible.
bengraven
Member
I have to agree. I wasn't sold on him. I thought he looked a bit too young and dressed too drably. I pictured him much more flamboyant. But sometime during a rewatch of season 1 and my re-read of the entire series, I fell for his Varys portrayel.
V is one of my favorite characters and there isn't anyone else who could have done the role as perfectly. And like Varys, I've never seen an interview with the actor: I think he wants to keep his secrets close to him.
Honestly seems to be the issue. People seem uncomfortable, so I'm assuming they're watching the show with other people.
I keep picturing a mom or some girl they're trying to impress or some "bros" hanging around and going "is this what you read late at night when you go to sleep?".
Wait...what?
Edit: OH, Mathos. I thought you were talking about someone else.
I watch it with my wife and keep hoping it makes her excited.
But as for a bigger audience, you're barking up the wrong tree with that one. This is HBO. It's not going to be PG13 for the masses.
Agreed, I already liked Davos in the books but Cunningham adds another layer of awesome.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
I hate that they've removed some of the shades of grey from Littlefinger. It's not interesting when he straight up sells a girl to be dismembered, tortured, and murdered and then threatens another with the same for crying. Whorehouses were just an investment in the books anyway; he was smarter, more complicated, and bigger than just running one really extravagant whorehouse.
I'm ~200 pages into A Storm Of Swords and I would disagree.
There is nothing unlucky about Theon just acting like a selfish self-entitled asshole. He brought every bit of what happened to him on himself.
bengraven
Member
It's true. But in fairness, some of the worst characters have all the luck in this series.
ThisWreckage
Banned
He's still hard to read. That in itself makes him a somewhat grey character. It's hard to tell what his motives are.
Buckethead
Banned
Yep.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
As far as I recall they were all in the books, or at least implied.
I have to agree. I wasn't sold on him. I thought he looked a bit too young and dressed too drably. I pictured him much more flamboyant. But sometime during a rewatch of season 1 and my re-read of the entire series, I fell for his Varys portrayel.
V is one of my favorite characters and there isn't anyone else who could have done the role as perfectly. And like Varys, I've never seen an interview with the actor: I think he wants to keep his secrets close to him.
Honestly seems to be the issue. People seem uncomfortable, so I'm assuming they're watching the show with other people.
I keep picturing a mom or some girl they're trying to impress or some "bros" hanging around and going "is this what you read late at night when you go to sleep?".
Wait...what?
Edit: OH, Mathos. I thought you were talking about someone else.
I watch it with my wife and keep hoping it makes her excited.
But as for a bigger audience, you're barking up the wrong tree with that one. This is HBO. It's not going to be PG13 for the masses.
Yeah but they make DVDs and will eventually sell the episodes to other channels.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Complaints about nudity and sex, at this point, are fruitless. It's HBO and they will definitely stay. Enjoy your softcore pornography and enjoy it in abundance.
Buckethead
Banned
It was the most awkward, poorly-done "seduction" ever.
Buckethead
Banned
Hot Pie/Samwell Tarly sex scene.
Basileus777
Member
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Looked like he was using a whetstone to shine it up keep the ice/crud/whatever off but I get where you're goin.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Why. Why is this show so good.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yeah I thought it was a bit excessive, but they did serve a purpose, i think (lol). I can understand Melisandre's 'tasteful' scene and its literal Love on the Battlefield thing, but the boat scene used to show Theons ego/douchery was over the top. I was like "Oh they're just gonna keep going with this" then I lol'd.
Teh Sex.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I can understand the discomfort with some of the sex scenes. I remember watching A History of Violence with my dad and that was pretty awkward.....but you just have to get over it. It's just sex. And I doubt HBO is trying to get this broad, family audience. They are in the position they are in because they push the boundaries, not because they try to go for the CBS crowd...and the sex and violence didn't stop them from syndicating Entourage and Sopranos.
bodyofanamerican
Member
I'm no expert on blades so unless using the stone serves other purposes other than sharpening then it looks like a small plot hole.
None of the wiki articles about Valyrian Steel mentioned they never need to be sharpened. Just that they're 'sharper'. I can't recall if they explicitly say otherwise in the books. So it might be nothing at all.
Polishing/cleaning.
I know if I had such a sword I'd keep that shit pristine. Don't really care if it doesn't rust/need sharpening, it's a matter of pride in basically the best thing any warrior in Westeros could wield.
Not much different than washing your car even if it doesn't need to be clean and shiny.
petethepanda
Member
There is no way the sex scenes being back-to-back wasn't intentionally played for laughs, right? It was hilarious. It's like they're directly responding to people by saying "you don't like it? Well here's some more assholes." At least the Mel/Stannis scene plays well and feels like it actually fits.
I love what they're doing with Yoren and co on the Kingsroad and the Iron Islands so far, but man, every time Littlefinger shows up this season I want to change the channel. I wasn't the biggest fan of the show version of him in s1 but it's gotten much, much worse now. At least Cercei is improving.
I love what they're doing with Yoren and co on the Kingsroad and the Iron Islands so far, but man, every time Littlefinger shows up this season I want to change the channel. I wasn't the biggest fan of the show version of him in s1 but it's gotten much, much worse now. At least Cercei is improving.
The Arya and Gendry scene was cute overload. Very well done.
The Melisandre sex isn't in the book, but implied. Thank you HBO for giving us naked Melisandre. *bow*
Next week preview spoiler
The Melisandre sex isn't in the book, but implied. Thank you HBO for giving us naked Melisandre. *bow*
Next week preview spoiler
The actress playing Margaery is my second conflicted actress choice after Cersei. I hope she impresses.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Steelyuhas
Member
My review:
Jon Snow scenes:
Tyrion scenes:
Theon and boat girl scene:
Balon and Yara owning Theon
Arya and Gendry scenes:
Davos and pirate scene:
Mel and Stannis scene:
BEST.
RECAP.
EVER.
I'm more angry about how Jon Snow ran 20 feet and was exhausted.
PhoenixDark
Banned
That was her cousin, Lancel Lannister (the squire King Robert made fun of earlier in the season as he filled his cup with wine)
WyndhamPrice
Member
That was Lancel, her cousin. Not Loras.
Basileus777
Member
That wasn't the Knight of Flowers, that was the Lannister cousin that was Robert's squire.
timetokill
Banned
Nope. I could see the argument for the brothel, which they're clearly trying to use to add some extra exposition for Littlefinger and represent some of the commoner's feelings about the royalty in KL.
Theon's was in the book and HBO probably figured, "hey, a freebie." Explains saltwives, sets up Theon's womanizing traits and plays off well with how he's kind of an ass. Also helps transition to him putting moves on his sister in a natural way. (What a weird sentence to write...)
The Melisandre one is (season spoilers)
great for explanation/foreshadowing for what happens later in the season though
I wouldn't condemn all of the sex scenes as being TNA quota-fillers.
I though the exact same thing the first time I watched it, and I thought: "WHOA. Now THAT is straying from the books!" Then I realized it was her cousin instead. Made a lot more sense.
Sex happens. Most of it in this episode were in the book.
I liked the episode, very curious to see how Stannis is going to approach Renly.
CoK
I liked the episode, very curious to see how Stannis is going to approach Renly.
CoK
Stannis still has to approach Renly, having both Cat and Stannis show up in the same epi to then have the brothers feud and THEN for renly to die would seem like a lot to pack in. Especially if they are going to start showing off brienne. I fully expect my sun ans stars to die in episode 4.
Buckethead
Banned
It's not the sex, necessarily.
It's the context; how it happened and the overall value attached to it.
It's the context; how it happened and the overall value attached to it.
Stannis needs a son and Theon is salty. More then enough reasons.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked