this right here. never read the books but just going by the show, the only stark to realize how the world operates is ayra . Ned and robb just set themselves up for failure in really naive and stupid ways.
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Game of Thrones *Tagged Book Spoilers, Please Read OP* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO
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Trojita
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If they somehow ran with that it would be fucked. I haven't watched that part in awhile, can anyone check that this is for sure?
They already fucked up by having Jaime kill his "cousin".
Trojita
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A guy at work forgot she even had children other than Joffrey lol.
Eh, still not worried. There will always been a special contingent of viewers who will forget most details.
Morrigan Stark
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There is one thing I was sad to see cut from Jaime's speech: [not really a spoiler but a book quote so yeah]
I thought that was a great line.
Nope.
when he quotes Aerys saying something like, "Let Robert be king over charred bones and cooked meat. Let him be king of ashes."
Regarding Cersei, [book stuff but not really spoilers]
Tywin tells Cersei it's time she re-marries again. Cersei refuses, but Tywin insists, saying she's still young and fertile and it would put the rumours to rest if she birthed more heirs (which of course makes Cersei furious about being a "brood mare"). He suggests a bunch of names, old men with ailing wives at first, then younger men such as Theon Greyjoy (lol), Quentyn Martell, and Willas. Tyrion pipes in, "That would be the cripple.", enjoying her dismay, haha. He says Willas is his chocie but he would "let her choose another" if she can give him a good reason. She doesn't care for that at all, haha. Can't blame her, but it's Cersei, so we feel like laughing at her then. But yeah, since Willas is cut from the show, and namedropping the other dudes wouldn't have served much purpose at this point, it makes sense he'd go immediately with Loras.
I know I don't. The fuck is a simp? :S
Seriously. I'm gonna go on a limb here and say there's some possible latent sexism going on.
Nope.
She asks why he pushed Bran, saying they could have frightened him into silence. Neither of them sent the assassin nor do they know who did (it's Joffrey).
Also, you're wrong about Jaime, you need to read AFFC or something...
Also, you're wrong about Jaime, you need to read AFFC or something...
negreenfield
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Are you sure she didn't mean
the part about pushing him out the window?
I can see things getting overwhelmingly confusing for non-book people once ASOS/AFFC
we meet the Martells. That's a lot of houses to keep track of. Even as a book reader I often had to pause my reading and look up who certain people were once we started jumping to Dorne. So many Martells, so many nicknames. Darkstar. Sand Snakes. Red Viper.
Tommen probably looks completely different now, and will look completely different again when he is reintroduced.
Chuckie
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I think a pussywhipped dude.
Trojita
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Or the original meaning which was a shortened form of Simpleton.
Oh I agree. A lot of it can't be helped though.
ASOS
I also expect people to forget who Janos Slynt was.
Maybe it's unfortunate timing in the end, but the way it happens in the show kind of implies that Jamie did it:
E1: Jaime pushes Bran out the window.
E2: They stay in Winterfell for a little while still. Days go by, eventually some dude tries to kill Bran once everyone left.
E3: They reach KL (which supposedly takes weeks). Cat suspects the Lannisters to be behind the assassination attempt. More or less everyone by then has heard about it. It's only then that we see Jamie visit Cersei and she's like "Are you mad or something?"
So overall, it seems a bit weird to have this conversation take place weeks after he pushed him, and right after news of the assassination attempt reached KL. I dunno.
Here's the scene in question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLwOeYDRpY0
Seemed to me that they were discussing Jaime pushing Bran out of the window, because word got out that Bran was awake.
Yeah and word got out that someone tried to stab him while he was in a coma too, by then. So I dunno, the fact that this scene happens only at that point, and not in the weeks prior to that was kind of odd. As I said, maybe it was just poor editing.
Anton Sugar
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Seeing the back of her head is what sold me on it being her.
If there were stand-ins, wouldn't they be in the credits?
Can someone write out what Jaime said in the bath scene? I couldn't make out most of what he said at all.
Morrigan Stark
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I was just thinking about him. I wonder if we'll see [S4/ASoS]
Janos Slynt and Alliser Thorne again soon. It's a good while for an actor to do nothing, but they're kinda important to Jon's story once he gets back on the wall and gets elected Lord Commander.
Then again, have we seenAsha Yara at all this season? Will we? I'm guessing her AFFC story with her nuncles will be in S4 more than S5, to keep the actress around, but who knows...
Then again, have we seen
Trojita
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"Yara" was in the trailers for Season 3.
Nope. They're treated as extras in that case.
Morrigan Stark
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Interesting. I wonder if [ASoS/ADWD]
she'll be around when Balon Greyjoy eats it, or something. I hope they show a Faceless Man doing the deed.
I wonder if we'll hear about the Ironborn taking Moat Cailing later. Or before that, Robb writing a letter about his mysterious heir and sending the carrier of that letter to Greywater Watch. Argh, no Dacey Mormont. #NOONEUNDERSTANDS lol
I wonder if we'll hear about the Ironborn taking Moat Cailing later. Or before that, Robb writing a letter about his mysterious heir and sending the carrier of that letter to Greywater Watch. Argh, no Dacey Mormont. #NOONEUNDERSTANDS lol
Trojita
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The trailer showed Yara walking down a line of her crewman looking serious. Maybe she tries to go get Theon. AFFC:
The Kingsmoot isn't till AFFC so it can't be that.
Morrigan Stark
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[AFFC]
Yeah I know it can't be the Kingsmoot, they haven't even cast her uncles yet. I just wonder what she'd be up to at this point in the story. Maybe we'll see her attempt to rescue Theon, but obviously that won't go very far.
Well, ASOS/AFFC
Balon should die any minute at this point. No way we'll see him die though. Since Tara is in this season though, I think they'll move up the kingsmoot.
I doubt it. The other brothers haven't been cast AFAIK.
I don't mean in this season, of course. Next season. Should have made that clearer, sorry.
timetokill
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Yara is going to be used as
a hallucination by Theon. He'll look up and see Yara, and try talking to her.
... and then his vision will clear and it will be Ramsay in a wig, his voice in falsetto.
... and then his vision will clear and it will be Ramsay in a wig, his voice in falsetto.
pulga
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The misfits actor they got for the part looks to be fantastically sadistic, going by the latest preview <3
Gen.Grievous
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Great episode. Jaime & Brienne bath scene was excellent. Dondarrion vs Hound fight most spectacular duel so far.
It killed Lord Karstark on the first strike. I always thought the contrast was very nice.
Anyone else feel like they finally nailed a fight scene (Beric/Hound)?
All of the previous duels have felt a bit lacking in certain aspects: Ned/Jaime, Hound/Mountain, Jon/Halfhand, and Jaime/Brienne. Season 1 stuff can be forgivable, but I was really hoping everything from season 2 and forward would have been top notch.
Hopefully [ASoS/Season 4]
All of the previous duels have felt a bit lacking in certain aspects: Ned/Jaime, Hound/Mountain, Jon/Halfhand, and Jaime/Brienne. Season 1 stuff can be forgivable, but I was really hoping everything from season 2 and forward would have been top notch.
Hopefully [ASoS/Season 4]
Mountain/Viper will be even better than this last one.
Jibbajabbawockky
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They have to get [ASoS]
Conan Stevens back as Gregor for that fight. Or bulk up the guy they had last year. I don't want to see the Beanpole That Rides versus the Viper.
Feels like everything is better this year, fight choreography, wigs, costumes, sets, directing, but the focus is too great to fill one hour neatly. My sole gripe, but watching them back to back might alleviate it
I really wish he would come back for an episode too, but if not keep that visor down and pad him to the gills in armor lol
Will we even see the Mountain in this season? I don't think he was in any of the events that this first season covers, but that doesn't mean they could sprinkle him in somewhere. Yeah...I wonder if they will find someone else again for the role. From the sounds of what people in this thread have said about that first actor, it doesn't seem like he will return. 
They really need to nail the Mountain/Viper scene though... They better do what is necessary to achieve that.
They really need to nail the Mountain/Viper scene though... They better do what is necessary to achieve that.Morrigan Stark
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From the non-reader thread:
[ASoS]
[ASoS]
lol. That thread is so much better when they're left to speculate like that. Haha
I don't agree with you in the slightest bit. She looked amazing.
Check two posts above you!
It's a strange assumption to come to whether you've read the books or not. Why would you think Tyrion would flee from a physical confrontation when we've seen him enter not one, but three battles in the series so far.
Wait a second...
in the books it suggests that Joffrey issued the assassination? I don't recall it that way. He wasn't even King yet was he? He had no motive for killing Bran, unlike Cersei and Jaime.
Might want to spoiler that, but yes that's what the book spells out. I always thought it was a sloppy explanation by GRRM. It's like he forgot about it, and then remembered it when he was writing the third book.
Morrigan Stark
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Also, it's best to strip the username and post ID# from the quote, cause apparently there's a feature of "who quoted you" that they could see in their control panel.
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It is Joffrey, Tyrion thinks at lengths about this. Remember that Joffrey, while Robert wasn't his bio-dad, was very much influenced by him. Robert offhandedly remarked that Bran was better off dead and it'd be more merciful to end his misery. The shiny expensive dagger also belonged to Robert's stash, which Joffrey would have had access to. Tyrion guesses that after Joffrey brags about being "no stranger to Valyrian steel", and he mentions the dragonbone hilt dagger and Joffrey gets all flustered.
Pai Pai Master
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Some of the posters in that thread...I really wonder how the hell they come to the conclusions they do. It's pretty mind-boggling some times.
I think the book also explains at some point how Robert didn't care for daggers and that he preferred his warhammers etc. So he gave Joffrey those daggers and whatnot, and, like you said, gave Joffrey access to those things. Correct me if I'm wrong here. It's been a while. =/
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You should spoiler tag posts like this even in this thread or just go to the no tag book thread. The mere act of you saying "lol" with that quote makes it seem like the statement is comically incorrect which suggests Tyrion will confront his father.
bodyofanamerican
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ASOS
RW is gonna be brutal enough without watching Dacey take the fucking axe to the stomach.
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