Exterminieren
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Calling it: [ASOS]
the Ramsay = Bastard of Bolton revelation will be signified on the show with Ramsay being present with Roose at the Red Wedding.
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Well it's decorated with dead bodies. At this point in the story, you wouldn't be surprised if every castle outside of the one at King's Landing looks like this.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Good. Then we can be friends lol
I still need to watch S3. But damn if 2 wasn't my favorite thing I've seen in forever.
DragonSworne
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infiniteloop
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Yup, I think so too.
That would be pretty awesome, specially ASOS
if they do a flashback of what really happened at Winterfell as Ramsay narrates the fake version of the events to Robb.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I didn't like season 3 quite as much as 2, but it was still pretty damn good and had some of my favorite moments in the series.
Nothing specific but spoilers to the question above
That would be Ilyn Payne. He is very much alive and should return if they follow the books. On a sidenote he is related to Tyrion's sex stud Poderick Payne, although distantly.
As classy as it was not to show him again, Arya keeps mentioning his name.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Damn that sucks.
negreenfield
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Trojita
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He's decided to not get treatment either. He is playing farewell gigs instead.
Most people probably don't know he was lead guitarist for British Band Dr. Feelgood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Feelgood
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, just looking him up on wikipedia, and in an interview from January he said he had about 9 or 10 months left. But at least he's using those 9 or 10 months to do what he wants.
He wasn't quite as big as I imagined Ilyn to be, but he sure as hell had the appearance and presence of him.
Have they also realized that [ASOS]
it means that it was Bolton's men who put Winterfell to the torch?
Laurentius
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I liked what they did with Gendry this episode.
Minor ASOS spoiler.
Minor ASOS spoiler.
I don't even remember the name of that other bastard of Robert's that Melisandre wanted to burn in the book. Since Gendry wasn't even in the book after Arya leaves the brotherhood, this will give him more screen time, and avoid the confusion of introducing yet another character.
The Anti-Monitor
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I think not, but I'm not too sure. I believe asking openly about it would give it away.
ASOS
Edric Storm
Also, Re: Gendry - AFFC
Yeah, Gendry makes an appearance and saves Brienne's life, but that's really it. I definitely do prefer what they are doing with him in the show.
Who was complaining that they could see Winterfell in this view facing South from The Wall? I can't see it..
Perhaps they thought that isolated group of trees (?) in the middle was Winterfell?
Jibbajabbawockky
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Eh...[ASoS MAJOR spoilers + Series]
I guess they could do that. But in the books, its already known by Robb prior to the RW that Ramsay has Theon hostage when Ramsay sends.
If they have that scene when Roose reconnects with Robb at the Twins prior to the RW, I wonder how they'll handle it. Just looking at my copy of ASoS, Roose tells Robb that it was the Ironmen that burned Winterfell and that Ramsay was the one who drove them out along with sending the piece of flayed skin from Theon's finger. Roose then suggests keeping Theon alive as a hostage in the aftermath of Balon's death a. The problematic part there possibly is that in the show we know Ramsay knows from Theon that Bran and Rickon are alive, yet in the books at least, they justify keeping Theon in Ramsay's custody in part as punishment for everyone thinking Theon killed Bran and Rickon and to get more information out of Theon. Plus the whole persona of Ramsay in the books is that he's well known to be a loose cannon, having been accused of rape and murder and so forth already.
I'm just wondering how they keep the whole Bolton thing sufficiently disguised before the RW. Obviously, if Roose gets a letter from Ramsay in the show it might seem odd not to communicate to Robb that Ramsay knows Bran and Rickon are alive. Seems like something Robb would want to know. And they can't really tell Robb that news since having everyone think Bran and Rickon are alive is a huge part of everything that follows, with respect to Sansa.
If they have that scene when Roose reconnects with Robb at the Twins prior to the RW, I wonder how they'll handle it. Just looking at my copy of ASoS, Roose tells Robb that it was the Ironmen that burned Winterfell and that Ramsay was the one who drove them out along with sending the piece of flayed skin from Theon's finger. Roose then suggests keeping Theon alive as a hostage in the aftermath of Balon's death a. The problematic part there possibly is that in the show we know Ramsay knows from Theon that Bran and Rickon are alive, yet in the books at least, they justify keeping Theon in Ramsay's custody in part as punishment for everyone thinking Theon killed Bran and Rickon and to get more information out of Theon. Plus the whole persona of Ramsay in the books is that he's well known to be a loose cannon, having been accused of rape and murder and so forth already.
I'm just wondering how they keep the whole Bolton thing sufficiently disguised before the RW. Obviously, if Roose gets a letter from Ramsay in the show it might seem odd not to communicate to Robb that Ramsay knows Bran and Rickon are alive. Seems like something Robb would want to know. And they can't really tell Robb that news since having everyone think Bran and Rickon are alive is a huge part of everything that follows, with respect to Sansa.
Morrigan Stark
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Hey now, be fair, he's in sheer pain and probably not thinking straight.
I agree. I think they might be moving a bit too fast with this, though. Remember, S4 is gonna be the other half of ASoS. [series]
What will Theon do during all of S4? The timeline for ADwD will mostly be in S5 which is when he'll have turned into Reek. I hope they slow down the pacing of Theon's mental breakdown a bit, and make it more gradual.
I disagree. "Everyone" as in readers or TV viewers? Sure. Everyone as in the characters of the fictional world? Nope. They see a little lord from a minor house who's no threat to anyone. That's why he gets away with all his schemes, and that's why he is trusted so easily by everyone, because no one has any reason to suspect him... except Tyrion.
I kinda dislike what they did with show-Littlefinger, he has no more subtlety at all. I tend to agree with those describing him as a mustache-twirling villain.
Haha I noticed that too. But I think he was just trying to look threatening. Still, it was funny.
Choppasmith
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Argh! I need help GoT-GAF!
I talked to my mom, who lives in New Zealand recently and she told me she just got into Game of Thrones (she minored in Mythology in college and is enamored with Viking and Medieval history/fiction in general). I have never in all my years have seen her hype a series as much as this one. She says she's picked up the Season 1 DVD for about 30 dollars down in New Zealand and she, in a very round-about way, convinced me to get her Season 2 as a Mother's Day gift. DVDs and such ARE much cheaper here than in New Zealand.
But then I thought I'd do her one better. I just got her a new HDTV and a Region Free Blu-ray player (so she's completely new to the world of High Definition) recently and thought it would be best to get her Season 1 AND 2 on Bluray, me watch it first, and then send it down to her.
My only problem is, there are so many season sets out there I don't know which one to get.
I saw this one. Looked cool, and it's even Region Free in case she wants to loan it to friends. But I have no idea what kind of Special Features it Has (and she's all about Special Features).
I was just wondering if you guys know the best version that has the best special features/cover/etc. I just got my Anniversary check from work so money really isn't an issue right now (well nothing more than $100 is preferable).
I talked to my mom, who lives in New Zealand recently and she told me she just got into Game of Thrones (she minored in Mythology in college and is enamored with Viking and Medieval history/fiction in general). I have never in all my years have seen her hype a series as much as this one. She says she's picked up the Season 1 DVD for about 30 dollars down in New Zealand and she, in a very round-about way, convinced me to get her Season 2 as a Mother's Day gift. DVDs and such ARE much cheaper here than in New Zealand.
But then I thought I'd do her one better. I just got her a new HDTV and a Region Free Blu-ray player (so she's completely new to the world of High Definition) recently and thought it would be best to get her Season 1 AND 2 on Bluray, me watch it first, and then send it down to her.
My only problem is, there are so many season sets out there I don't know which one to get.
I saw this one. Looked cool, and it's even Region Free in case she wants to loan it to friends. But I have no idea what kind of Special Features it Has (and she's all about Special Features).
I was just wondering if you guys know the best version that has the best special features/cover/etc. I just got my Anniversary check from work so money really isn't an issue right now (well nothing more than $100 is preferable).
SomeOrangeGuy
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I tried reading all of this thread posted since last night's episode before replying... but I fell about three pages short. Screw it!
Gahhh!!! Why did I even think of that!? After reading ADwD
. Or maybe they're setting up a possible way to sidestep all of that since ALL
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Good catch. I hadn't even thought of that. The whole conversation set up ASOS
. It will play into Cersei's paranoia in a very unforced manner. IIRC, it's when Tyrion talks to ASOS
. Joff is careless and stupid with his power, ASOS
.
I thought the exact same thing, especially because they keep removing minor characters. Not to mention they've effectively rewritten ASOS
. I like what they're doing, but I feel like this was a missed opportunity.
I was only going to read a book at a time as they lined up with the seasons, but it looks like they won't line up going forward -- at least not exactly. I'm glad I kept reading all the way through ADwD, because ADwD
This episode was like a catch-all of "all the stuff that didn't happen in the books, or at least didn't happen in the same way". I'm enjoying those changes immensely, and have even been thrown a few surprises. I think they're actively trolling the readers now, especially in the scene where ADwD
I really, REALLY hope people got a good look at the sigil in the Jaime/Brienne/Bolton dinner scene...
My guess, going forward, since ASOS
that there will be significant overlap with AFFC/ADwD
.
I wonder if we'll ever see ADwD
. Not that they couldn't write him out if need be.
Gahhh!!! Why did I even think of that!? After reading ADwD
I was sure we'd end up discovering that Jon had warged into Ghost and then back into his body, because of the Melisandre's vision of Jon turning from man to wolf and back to man again
the show has never even hinted that anyone but Bran is a warg
Good catch. I hadn't even thought of that. The whole conversation set up ASOS
a believable motivation for Tyrion to kill Joffery, AND the means by which to do it
Jaime that he figures out Joffrey was also responsible for the attempt on Bran
even before becoming king
I thought the exact same thing, especially because they keep removing minor characters. Not to mention they've effectively rewritten ASOS
Sansa's entire flight from King's Landing. Not that I mind; this is WAY better than the Dontos stuff, and gives Varys and Littlefinger a lot to do, where Littlefinger had almost no scenes in the book
I was only going to read a book at a time as they lined up with the seasons, but it looks like they won't line up going forward -- at least not exactly. I'm glad I kept reading all the way through ADwD, because ADwD
I'd be totally lost on the Theon stuff since he hadn't appeared in the book at all, and it would have spoiled me for the later books! Brutal as it is, I'm enjoying seeing the Theon stuff first-hand.
This episode was like a catch-all of "all the stuff that didn't happen in the books, or at least didn't happen in the same way". I'm enjoying those changes immensely, and have even been thrown a few surprises. I think they're actively trolling the readers now, especially in the scene where ADwD
Ramsay is playing that little guessing game with Theon, and admits to being a Karstark. I thought for a moment they were really going to change his backstory, but then nothing else would make any sense.
I really, REALLY hope people got a good look at the sigil in the Jaime/Brienne/Bolton dinner scene...
My guess, going forward, since ASOS
a lot of things are happening sooner or slower than they should -- or in some cases not at all
the end of the third book and the beginning s of both the fourth and fifth. This is especially important for Daenerys, who is supposedly a titular character of the last book, but seemed like she was in it the least
I wonder if we'll ever see ADwD
Xaro Xhoan Daxos again, given in the show he was locked in his own vault
I have a feeling that the season's final scene could be a brief one of [ASOS]
Cat's mutilated body being pulled from the river by the Brotherhood. The camera goes close on Beric, showing his neck wound, and then cuts to Cat, showing hers. No Lady Stoneheart, yet, but a pretty good hint at what's to come.
That's a really clever idea. For the show, I like it.
timetokill
Banned
Don't you mean Kelly C?
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Some people missed the fact Jorah was selling Daenerys and he changed his mind.
Damn thats good.
Who was complaining that they could see Winterfell in this view facing South from The Wall? I can't see it..
What a wonderful image.
I thought they were going to take it more sexual with Joff's fascination with wanting to impale someone with a bow. I know that would have been much much darker but that slight flash to joff with a bow then the cut to Ros was weird. I mean, that was the first time that Joff had killed someone right? I would assume it would have gotten more screentime.
I am actually more surprised than anything else that they had Joff go through with the killing himself. Any other time he only threatens to do it himself, but never follows through, or has someone else do his dirty work. But I also guess it goes back to the scene with him an Margarey and the Crossbow where he asks if she thinks she could kill something.
She said "close" not "kill" - but it could be taken either way. Series/AFFC/ADWD
I took it as kill.. because despite Arya's alter-egos, none of them have different coloured eyes.. her enemies, however, do.
Really good episode. Stuff that stood out for me
- Iwan Rheon. Just perfect casting. That scene was the highlight of the episode. [SoS]
- Van Houten killed it as Mel in her scenes... Somehow this struck me as her strongest performance so far. Especially when she read Arya's face.
- I don't remember, was that scene about loyalty between Ygritte and Jon in the books? Because that had some terrific lines.
- Loved the final shot of Jon and Ygritte on the top of the wall. I need a 1080p wallpaper of this.
- Jojen selling that dream. Damn convincing seizure.
- All of the Lannisters killing it
- Littlefinger's ladder speech
- 'The Lysa Arryn of chairs'. Hah! Brilliant.
Best casting ever.
- Iwan Rheon. Just perfect casting. That scene was the highlight of the episode. [SoS]
I don't care if he doesn't look disgusting, this little freak IS Ramsay.
- I don't remember, was that scene about loyalty between Ygritte and Jon in the books? Because that had some terrific lines.
- Loved the final shot of Jon and Ygritte on the top of the wall. I need a 1080p wallpaper of this.
- Jojen selling that dream. Damn convincing seizure.
- All of the Lannisters killing it
- Littlefinger's ladder speech
- 'The Lysa Arryn of chairs'. Hah! Brilliant.
Best casting ever.
Joffrey has been wanting to point his crossbow at Ros again ever since last season.
I couldn't get over the pretty bad cg.
Agree, I love all Lannister scenes, especially the one with Tywin and Olenna. What badass mofos both of them.
Brilliant way to end the episode.
Also poor Sansa.. :/
So show spoiled book confirmed? I fucking hope not.
Not necessarily. Series
Mel does a lot of talking in the books. Not all of it is truth.
It could also be in reference to people she has already killed in the books, and is slated to kill on the show. Probably Polliver, Dareon, etc.
It really wasn't that bad. I've seen much worse, and considering it's only a TV show, it was great imo.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Baelish speech juxtaposed with Jon/Ygritte physical climb was great. Awesome character scenes overall in this episode.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
That speech was nuts.
Look at the position of the bolt shots. That's the sickest kind of sexual depravity there is.
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