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Mairu said:
Holy SHIT the screen on the m11x is a disaster. Glass screens are awful for something meant to be portable. The glare on this thing is insane, it's like looking into a mirror.

Guess I'm gonna try spending $30 on this anti glare screen protector :/

Yea one of the most biggest annoyances in my m11x, I usually try to play games in the dark.

m0dus said:
Despite the fact that this machine actually has some excellent performance , especially for the price, Is there any word on whether they've fully addressed the hinge issue? My wife used hers for about 6 months, took good care of it, before both hinges spontaneously split about a week ago. I've dropped it off for repair, but based on my research this was a relatively widespread issue that Dell is supposedly going to remedy next month. Also, any word on the R2's having better results?

FWIW, I've had my R2 since November and have been taking it to school (in my backpack) M-F since January. Not a very long time I understand but it seems to be holding together so far.

A quick question, does anybodies M11x screen flicker when windows boots up? It never happened before and to be honest it's somewhat worrying =/.
 
So the new Macbook Pro updates, the 6750M is it any good? Would it be able to play BF3 reasonably for instance? I know it's a guessing game right now, but some knowledge would be appreciated.
 
Pankaks said:
Yea one of the most biggest annoyances in my m11x, I usually try to play games in the dark.



FWIW, I've had my R2 since November and have been taking it to school (in my backpack) M-F since January. Not a very long time I understand but it seems to be holding together so far.

A quick question, does anybodies M11x screen flicker when windows boots up? It never happened before and to be honest it's somewhat worrying =/.

I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but my screen goes dark whenever the Windows 7 log in screen comes up. Can't figure out why. :/ I figured it had something to do with Alienware Face Login, but not completely sure.
 
New Rumors, fresh out of the NBR forum's Chinese sauces:

GTX 500M in 4 to 6 weeks.

- GF114 cores (?)
- 560M = 192 cores, 192-bit GDDR5; essentially a faster GTX 460M
- 570M = 336 cores, 192-bit GDDR5; replacement for the 470M, which only had 288 cores unlocked
- 580M = 384 cores, 256-bit GDDR5; replacement for the 485M

The purpose is lower power consumption and lower prices.

Chart:



The 570M is the chip to look out for. If it's cheaper than the 470M, and as fast as the 6970M, Nvidia will own the price/performance crown.

I'll keep you updated. I know the upcoming MSI GT780 will house the GTX 560M.
 
Pankaks said:
Yea one of the most biggest annoyances in my m11x, I usually try to play games in the dark.



FWIW, I've had my R2 since November and have been taking it to school (in my backpack) M-F since January. Not a very long time I understand but it seems to be holding together so far.

A quick question, does anybodies M11x screen flicker when windows boots up? It never happened before and to be honest it's somewhat worrying =/.
It's not going to be a problem when I'm playing games at home but I took it to class yesterday for note taking and it was almost a struggle to see what I was looking at. I know MacBook Pros have glass screens as well, but it's nowhere near as bad as it is with this Alienware. I ordered the anti-glare screen protector but I'm kind of worried it'll affect the color too much during times when I don't need the anti-glare. We'll see D:
 
Kenka said:
? Doesn't even come close to half the price x_X

I agree it will become most gamers' first choice once it hits a lower price but its current pricing still makes it exclusive.

It's not officially available to retail, yet - so there are a lot of unknowns. I said "potentially". :) It's also a reference to building a system with it. It's currently $500 extra to go GTX 485M. Perhaps it will be $300ish to upgrade to 6970M.


K.Jack said:
The 570M is the chip to look out for. If it's cheaper than the 470M, and as fast as the 6970M, Nvidia will own the price/performance crown.

I'll keep you updated. I know the upcoming MSI GT780 will house the GTX 560M.

lol...dude we'll never be able to buy a laptop at this rate. Competition is good, though! I don't know if I can wait until after April to buy.
 
I know nothing about laptops, but I'm in the market to buy within the next few months. I know it isn't good to look into computer hardware so far in advance, but I need some reference. Laptop GPU chipsets are so confusing to me, and even CPUs are a little confusing. I know my desktop hardware, but laptops are so confusing. I'm looking for a nice high res screen. Cheaper than the Macbook Pro 15" would be nice, as price is one of the reasons I'm not going with that. I like to play games.
btw, if there is anything out there that is more powerful than my desktop(Phenom II X4 @ 3GHz, GTS 250, 4GB DDR3-1333) feel free to point it my way as long as it is not crazy expensive.
 
Does anyone have a suggestion for a complete cheap-ass? Is there a $600 laptop out there that would be decent for gaming, and could last me for a year playing the current stuff out there at mid-level settings?
 
acerbist said:
Does anyone have a suggestion for a complete cheap-ass? Is there a $600 laptop out there that would be decent for gaming, and could last me for a year playing the current stuff out there at mid-level settings?

Probably the Alienware M11x R1. I would check Dell Outlet (watch for coupons) and investigate places like Slickdeals.net to see if there are any deals. The R2 (i5/i7 processors, otherwise pretty similar) runs at around $700 on sale. If you can push it to that you will have a bit more future proof gaming laptop for the more CPU-intensive games (BF:BC2, Black Ops). Definitely mid-level settings in the latest stuff.


Lkr said:
I know nothing about laptops, but I'm in the market to buy within the next few months. I know it isn't good to look into computer hardware so far in advance, but I need some reference. Laptop GPU chipsets are so confusing to me, and even CPUs are a little confusing. I know my desktop hardware, but laptops are so confusing. I'm looking for a nice high res screen. Cheaper than the Macbook Pro 15" would be nice, as price is one of the reasons I'm not going with that. I like to play games.
btw, if there is anything out there that is more powerful than my desktop(Phenom II X4 @ 3GHz, GTS 250, 4GB DDR3-1333) feel free to point it my way as long as it is not crazy expensive.

Notebookcheck.net has a pretty good outline of what the best cards are:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6970M.43077.0.html

Load that page and look on the right. They even have benchmarks for a lot of the more popular games. From there, go to sites that you are considering a purchase from and if gaming/graphics is that important, find a laptop based on the graphics chipset you're interested in. Just read the individual reviews of any laptop prior to purchase.

If you know desktop hardware, armed with the info from Notebookcheck.net you should be set.
 
Well, my laptop search is over. After conversing with some of the DICE devs over twittter (link) - and getting one of them to confirm in a roundabout way that they wouldn't buy MBPs unless they knew it could run a certain game well (they're all in the States for GDC and are picking up MBPs with the 6750M due to lower costs than in Sweden) - that was enough for me. I love Mac OS X (typing on a Mac mini now), love the form factor, and the graphics should be good enough. I hate the price, but whatever... :)

EDIT: Here's a YouTube video of BF:BC2 running on high in Bootcamp and performing very well.

Castor Krieg said:
Which of the different ASUS G73 configurations is the best in terms of price/value?

Personally, I would look at the G**SW series (53 = 15", 73 = 17" - pick your size pleasure). They are not out, yet...but they should be imminently. You will get the latest and greatest Intel Sandy Bridge processors and a GTX 460M which is a solid card. MSI has some cool stuff down the pipe, but that's a couple/few months out. And you can always wait and wait and wait and never buy so don't worry about biting the bullet! BTW - Costco has the G53JW (last gen) so perhaps they will stock the G53SW. That would be a nice deal because Costco has a GREAT return/warranty policy and I have heard mixed reviews RE: ASUS service.
 
The GTX 460M is a scrub, period. You'll be looking to upgrade within a year, if native res 1080p gaming matters to you. It's slower than a GTS 450, if you need a desktop reference point.

sk3tch said:
lol...dude we'll never be able to buy a laptop at this rate. Competition is good, though! I don't know if I can wait until after April to buy.
Fortunately, the Intel mess guarantees that I won't have a machine until April/May anyway, so I'm fine with sitting on the sidelines until then.
 
K.Jack said:
The GTX 460M is a scrub, period. You'll be looking to upgrade within a year, if native res 1080p gaming matters to you. It's slower than a GTS 450, if you need a desktop reference point.


Fortunately, the Intel mess guarantees that I won't have a machine until April/May anyway, so I'm fine with sitting on the sidelines until then.

Nothing wrong with looking for a new laptop within a year. I like the yearly upgrade cycle. Keeps me in warranty and current. For me, personally, I'm without laptop now so the need for a new one was more imminent. I think calling the 460M a scrub is a bit harsh...it's definitely going to play the latest games with pretty great quality, especially when paired with Sandy Bridge for CPU-centric titles. If you're a hardcore gamer...yeah, it may not be enough for you.

EDIT: may be a bit off-topic, but it's a new monitor for my new laptop so perhaps it counts. :) I think I am going to bite the bullet and spend the $150 extra to get the Acer GD235HZbid (reviewed here - http://www.digitalversus.com/acer-gd245hq-p357_7352_38.html) due to the amazing response time in comparison to the $200 Acer H243H. I already have an Acer H233H that I use for 360 MP gaming and I just love it. I am rationalizing spending the extra $150 for a couple reasons:

1) Connectivity - it has HDMI in and TOSLink out so I can use my Astro A40 MixAmp with any device I connect via HDMI (i.e. my 2011 MBP).
2) Crazy response time. Best in class. Probably the best gaming monitor right now.
3) 3D for the future. Won't use now...but maybe some day. Heh.

No 3D or TOSLink out on the H243H but it is $150 cheap and the response time is still very good. It's kind of a tough call. I should probably just hold off but I'm trying to rationalize this...what are your thoughts, guys?
 
ASUS to begin shipping updated Intel Sandy Bridge notebooks

Customers encouraged to contact service centers for sales return or swap

Based on new information from Intel, ASUS is happy to announce that updated Sandy Bridge-based products will begin shipping this week, immediately after the revised design is released by Intel. This fast response aims to prevent any further inconvenience and interruption to customers.

For notebook products, ASUS will begin by rolling out revised G73SW, N53SV and N53SN models, followed by N43SL, N43SN and N73SV notebooks

Customers who already own potentially affected models: please go to http://vip.asus.com/eservice/changeSandybridge_NB.aspx?slanguage=en-usto verify whether your notebook is affected, and simply follow the swap procedure to get a replacement notebook.

For customers planning to buy new notebooks with Intel® Sandy Bridge technology, ASUS has clearly marked all packaging, including shipping cartons and gift boxes, to indicate the use of revised hardware. Just look for a sticker displaying "New Revision Certified Design" to rest assured the products have been fully updated.

We would like to use this opportunity to encourage any current users in possession of affected ASUS products to carry out return and replacement within two months of their purchase invoice date. This is to make sure the transition to revised hardware is as smooth and fast as possible.

For additional information and assistance, please feel free to check http://vip.asus.com/eservice/changeSandybridge_NB.aspx?slanguage=en-usor contact your local ASUS service hotline as listed below.

With thanks for your patience and support,

The ASUS Team

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14346&Itemid=99999999

Time frame is still a little vague, but at least it's close.
 
Naked Snake said:
1920x1080 15.6" screen or bust.

Those are impressive specs otherwise though.

Great to hear sandy bridge laptops are rolling out.

There is a 1080 option available.

How is the mobile graphics on that though? I am not really familiar with graphics cards, but am looking to upgrade.

The other laptop that I am looking at is the HP Envy 14, but I am hesitant on that one because of the older processors. Will there be a discernible difference between last gens Core i, and the new Sandy Bridge?
 
Mechanical Snowman said:
So I can justify ordering a notebook with a 720QM like, 20 minutes ago :lol.
You have the worst timing. Cancel.

hermit7 said:
How is the mobile graphics on that though? I am not really familiar with graphics cards, but am looking to upgrade.

What kind of gaming do you want to do?
 
K.Jack said:
What kind of gaming do you want to do?

Well maybe some RPGs Witcher, Witcher 2. Potentially some newer shooters that are coming out soon like Battlefield 3. I know that I won't be running at high settings, but hopefully at medium.
 
hermit7 said:
Well maybe some RPGs Witcher, Witcher 2. Potentially some newer shooters that are coming out soon like Battlefield 3. I know that I won't be running at high settings, but hopefully at medium.
You'll need at least a GTX 460M or Mobility 5850 for The Witcher 2 or Battlefield.

Minimum requirements on Witcher 2 call for the 8800 GT, and that's 2x the speed of the GT 540M or Mobility 5650.

Edit: wait, 6570M GDDR5 is absolute minimum
 
hermit7 said:
There is a 1080 option available.

Fffuuu I want one! One of Dell's older XPS models had one of the best screens ever on a laptop, but was supposedly discontinued. I wonder if it's making a return.

Will there be a discernible difference between last gens Core i, and the new Sandy Bridge?

For CPU intensive tasks, and video encoding, yes.
 
K.Jack said:
You'll need at least a GTX 460M or Mobility 5850 for The Witcher 2 or Battlefield.

Minimum requirements on Witcher 2 call for the 8800 GT, and that's 2x the speed of the GT 540M or Mobility 5650.

Edit: wait, 6570M GDDR5 is absolute minimum

Are there any laptops that offer this type of performance?
 
hermit7 said:
Are there any laptops that offer this type of performance?
Asus G73SW and G53SW; Sager NP8150, NP8130, and NP8170; Alienware M17X R3; MSI has upcoming products, while the GX640 and GX740 will appease though who are okay with the current-gen CPUs and the Mobility 5870/5850.

Really though, the AMD 6970M is all that matters, to those who want long-term GPU firepower. It's a slightly downclocked 6850, and 2x the speed of the 460M and Mobility 5850.

It will only be available in the NP8170, NP8150, and M17X R3. Once the Intel mess is over, and AMD gets its mass production shit together, machines should start at $1.4k to $1.5k.

It's worth waiting for, imo.
 
K.Jack said:
You have the worst timing. Cancel.
Nah, I don't mind being a generation behind.

I'd have waited if the next model up from the Acer 8943G had a GPU with DDR5, but it's still the same old 5850, and I'm not going to wait what could be months for a only a faster processor and no other hardware upgrades. Timing does suck, but I need a notebook sooner rather than later.

While I'm in here, noob question: does HDD RPM have any effect on gaming performance? If so, how substantial is the difference between, say, 5400 and 7200?
 
K.Jack said:
Asus G73SW and G53SW; Sager NP8150, NP8130, and NP8170; Alienware M17X R3; MSI has upcoming products, while the GX640 and GX740 will appease though who are okay with the current-gen CPUs and the Mobility 5870/5850.

Really though, the AMD 6970M is all that matters, to those who want long-term GPU firepower. It's a slightly downclocked 6850, and 2x the speed of the 460M and Mobility 5850.

It will only be available in the NP8170, NP8150, and M17X R3. Once the Intel mess is over, and AMD gets its mass production shit together, machines should start at $1.4k to $1.5k.

It's worth waiting for, imo.

A 6970M GPU with a full-HD 15'' screen, USB 3.0 ports and a weight from 2.9 kg downwards @ 1400 $ would be my dream machine, regardless of the CPU and the amount of RAM (if kept at 4 Go of course).

edit : and, please, a 4 hours + battery life :(
 
NOTICE: The 6970M is now available in the M17x R3.

Base config + 6970M is $1749. Very tempting.

The thing that bothers me about AW, is that the 1080p LCD isn't standard. The Clevos will be around the same price, but w/o having to pay an extra $150 for FullHD.

Gamer @ Heart said:
If im content to run my games in 720p at full everything, what mobile graphics card / laptop combo will i be comfortable with for under 1200?
GTX 460M or Mobility 5850/6850.
 
K.Jack said:
It will only be available in the NP8170, NP8150, and M17X R3. Once the Intel mess is over, and AMD gets its mass production shit together, machines should start at $1.4k to $1.5k.
These model numbers led me to Sager notebooks. I've never heard of them, nor has anyone I know. (We're Australian, forgive us.) What's the story with them? Reputable?
 
Sew said:
These model numbers led me to Sager notebooks. I've never heard of them, nor has anyone I know. (We're Australian, forgive us.) What's the story with them? Reputable?

I've only recently stumbled upon this brand as well. It seems to have some credit since websites like Notebookcheck review their laptops. The materials they pack into a 1200 $ offer is pretty good in my opinion.
 
Okay I'm trying to help a friend with getting a new laptop since her's just recently crapped out on her.

Although she didn't give me a price range, hopefully someone can suggest one in the $500ish range and one in the $700ish range.

I think she needs a windows based system for some of her work related programs and such, so no macs please.

I guess in general she's looking for your normal internet surfing, movie watching, the best graphics capabilities for the price range would help, but she ain't much of a gamer (though she may throw some CoD or L4D on there, but its not a major concern of hers)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
 
EDIT:

I have an m11x R1 for sale.
New screen/hinge, new GPU, new battery
500GB hdd, 4gb ram, WWAN card, bluetooth, core2duo

3 months remaining on the warranty
 
robotzombie said:
Okay I'm trying to help a friend with getting a new laptop since her's just recently crapped out on her.

Although she didn't give me a price range, hopefully someone can suggest one in the $500ish range and one in the $700ish range.

I think she needs a windows based system for some of her work related programs and such, so no macs please.

I guess in general she's looking for your normal internet surfing, movie watching, the best graphics capabilities for the price range would help, but she ain't much of a gamer (though she may throw some CoD or L4D on there, but its not a major concern of hers)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

What country do you live in ? I assume the US.

Acer has some good bang for buck in this range. Try the Acer Aspire 5742G.

GeForce 540M for 650 bucks. And the CPU is not crappy. Not exactly built to last but sufficient for gaming at medium resolution, office stuff and so on.
 
^That Acer is an amazing value @ just $650.

Sew said:
I was almost sold on them, until I saw that they only seem to offer glossy screens. WTF. :(
There's a 72% color gamut MATTE screen available for the 17", and a 95% color gamut MATTE for the 15".

The premium screens are $200 extra.
 
K.Jack said:
I have my own credible sources, but read this.

The new M17x with the 6970M is now available on the alienware website. The options seem pretty good. With an i7 2630, 4 GB's of ram, and an upgraded screen its coming out to $1899.

My plan was to build a gaming PC this year. I might scrap that and get this instead. The wireless HD on this is a huge plus for me because my main TV is a 1080p projector and to use my big screen as my screen without connecting any wires sounds beyond awesome. I do have some questions though.

-Any reason I would need more then 4 GB's of ram if all I'm using this for is gaming?
-Should I expect everything out now and in the near future to run at max settings flawlessly?
-How long until the specs in this thing are "outdated"

Sorry I know NOTHING about this stuff. Its just about time I graduated to a real gaming machine.
 
I could wait a month so I will be able to buy an ASUS N53SV-SZ016V or I could buy a N53SV-SX003V for €120 less.
These seem to be the only differences:
SZ016V:
RAM: 6 GB
Screen resolution: 1980x1080

SX003V:
RAM: 4 GB
Screen resolution: 1366x768

Should I wait a month and buy the SZ016V or should I buy the SX003V?
 
Wizman23 said:
The new M17x with the 6970M is now available on the alienware website. The options seem pretty good. With an i7 2630, 4 GB's of ram, and an upgraded screen its coming out to $1899.

My plan was to build a gaming PC this year. I might scrap that and get this instead. The wireless HD on this is a huge plus for me because my main TV is a 1080p projector and to use my big screen as my screen without connecting any wires sounds beyond awesome. I do have some questions though.

-Any reason I would need more then 4 GB's of ram if all I'm using this for is gaming?
-Should I expect everything out now and in the near future to run at max settings flawlessly?
-How long until the specs in this thing are "outdated"

Sorry I know NOTHING about this stuff. Its just about time I graduated to a real gaming machine.


Anyone?

Also to add to my questions when configuring this they gave me a few options in regards to the wireless card. If this thing is never going to leave my house any reasons to upgrade to the more expensive cards?
 
TimmiT said:
I could wait a month so I will be able to buy an ASUS N53SV-SZ016V or I could buy a N53SV-SX003V for €120 less.
These seem to be the only differences:
SZ016V:
RAM: 6 GB
Screen resolution: 1980x1080

SX003V:
RAM: 4 GB
Screen resolution: 1366x768

Should I wait a month and buy the SZ016V or should I buy the SX003V?

If gaming is priority, everybody on GAF and beyond will push you towards 1980x1080 screens. 6 GB of RAM is a bit overkill though. May come handy in the future but not before one year at the very least.


Not strictly gaming related but holy shit nonetheless :

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6056&review=lenovo+thinkpad+x220

Sandy Bridge processeur (i5-2520M) and a staggering 8 h+ battery life in a 12'' laptop. I said wow.
 
TimmiT said:
I could wait a month so I will be able to buy an ASUS N53SV-SZ016V or I could buy a N53SV-SX003V for €120 less.
These seem to be the only differences:
SZ016V:
RAM: 6 GB
Screen resolution: 1980x1080

SX003V:
RAM: 4 GB
Screen resolution: 1366x768

Should I wait a month and buy the SZ016V or should I buy the SX003V?
How much of a priority, is gaming? If that's your main focus, I'd wait for the model with the 1366x768 screen, as the GT 540M is not equipped to handle 1080p gaming in any form, and having to lower the resolution will result in a great loss of image quality.

Native resolution wins.

Wizman23 said:
The new M17x with the 6970M is now available on the alienware website. The options seem pretty good. With an i7 2630, 4 GB's of ram, and an upgraded screen its coming out to $1899.

My plan was to build a gaming PC this year. I might scrap that and get this instead. The wireless HD on this is a huge plus for me because my main TV is a 1080p projector and to use my big screen as my screen without connecting any wires sounds beyond awesome. I do have some questions though.

-Any reason I would need more then 4 GB's of ram if all I'm using this for is gaming?
-Should I expect everything out now and in the near future to run at max settings flawlessly?
-How long until the specs in this thing are "outdated"

Sorry I know NOTHING about this stuff. Its just about time I graduated to a real gaming machine.
Wizman23 said:
Anyone?

Also to add to my questions when configuring this they gave me a few options in regards to the wireless card. If this thing is never going to leave my house any reasons to upgrade to the more expensive cards?
My bad, Cavs-Bro.

1. 6GB is the new 4GB, as far as gaming goes.
2. For perspective, the 6970M is the desktop 6850, slightly downclocked. Check 6850 benchmarks to get a grasp on what you'll have.
3. See #2. Besides, tech is outdated the moment it releases. That's just the way the game goes.
4. The Intel wireless chips will give you better range and stronger, more reliable signals. But the issue here is how Dell is overcharging for the chips. The 6300 retails for $35 flat, while they're charging $70. Better to leave it at the default, then upgrade to the 6300 on your own.

Kenka said:
Not strictly gaming related but holy shit nonetheless :

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6056&review=lenovo+thinkpad+x220

Sandy Bridge processeur (i5-2520M) and a staggering 8 h+ battery life in a 12'' laptop. I said wow.
18 hours and 34 minutes, with the optional battery. Damn.
 
Mechanical Snowman said:
Just overclocked the mobility 5850, am averaging ~38 fps on GTA IV, 720x1280.

Never thought I'd be playing this game on a notebook.
How high do you have the clocks? It's a downclocked 5770, and you should be able to come pretty close to 850/1000.
 
K.Jack said:
How high do you have the clocks? It's a downclocked 5770, and you should be able to come pretty close to 850/1000.
Really? I have it clocked at 750/900, I didn't want to go any higher since, for some reason, my version of Catalyst doesn't show my GPU temp and so I didn't want to go too crazy.

I should say as well, that that fps was using the game's benchmark test. During normal gameplay the range stays quite consistently in the mid 40s.

Edit: If I crank the core clock speed to 800 or 850, the game (and the OS) crashes on start up. I did managed to put the memory up to 1000 without problems, though I'm not sure how much that increases performance. Not too sure what the problem is with the core speed.
 
Mechanical Snowman said:
Really? I have it clocked at 750/900, I didn't want to go any higher since, for some reason, my version of Catalyst doesn't show my GPU temp and so I didn't want to go too crazy.

I should say as well, that that fps was using the game's benchmark test. During normal gameplay the range stays quite consistently in the mid 40s.

Edit: If I crank the core clock speed to 800 or 850, the game (and the OS) crashes on start up. I did managed to put the memory up to 1000 without problems, though I'm not sure how much that increases performance. Not too sure what the problem is with the core speed.
Wait, which notebook do you have?
 
The hinge on my laptop just snapped apart a few hours ago. I need to get a new laptop. I have about $1000 to spend on one. Can anyone help me out to get the best laptop for the money I have to spend. Thanks!
 
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