JackMcGunns
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We're talking about Helldivers II
[Gaming Industry] Helldivers 2 has sold overall, over 60% of it's sales on PC
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We're talking about Helldivers II
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Cool. Seems like great news.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
False dichotomy. The industry has always married creativity with potential gains. Dreams was greenlit just after Tearaway (2013) and Roblox rose to insane heights by 2019/2020. They missed their target but there was clearly huge market potential there.
Mr Moose
Member
Title is a little misleading, it's Europe only (not sure if it includes UK and Germany, normally doesn't), could be higher/lower than 60% WW. Might be higher in the US according to a Tweet by Mat. Hopefully we'll get more info from the devs.
Neofire
Member
Okay I see, he has data for one Region. What about all the others? What I'm getting at how is he painting such a vivid picture of the sakes breakdowns but is messing alot of data from all the other region's.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
He only speaks for that region since that's the data he has access to, and yeah that means the OP headline is misleading. Feel free to ping a mod to request a thread title change since the platform split is indeed just for Europe and not worldwide.
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ShadowkillXNA
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
so, how many copies this game has sold so far then?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
That's not what he said either. He said over 60% overall meaning LTD.
yurinka
Member
Well, Sony doesn't plan to release less SP games. They have a record number of games under development, being the majority of them non-GaaS (SP) and plan to increase their investment in non-GaaS (so SP) games from now the current FY23 to FY25. Not sure if beyond too because the public graph they shown only covered until that year.
Yes, some like Destruction All Stars, The Last Guardian or others may have tanked (today needing more people, time and budget may be an issue), but in general they should be profitable. Even more considering the PC ports, which cost a couple millions and make some dozen millions of dollars.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Are you sure?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It's right there in the OP
JackMcGunns
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Bulletbrain
Member
Where did you get that ROI figure of 40-75% for SP? Recently I made a quick chart on actual ROI for Sony's G&NS segment and it has not been that high. Are you implying that non SP games and other services have much lower ROI hence bringing overall segment ROI lower?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That was from Insomniac's games only. I was using them as an example since they put out the most games and they've all been SP games. That chart above includes Network and Services costs too.
Holammer
Member
That's top sellers in your region. Click Global Top Sellers (it's #1 Global).Still up there
Hari Seldon
Member
By putting the game on PC day 1 they got a massive boost from streamers, which likely drove even more console sales. This is clearly the optimal strategy for live service games.
Self_Destructive
Member
Every worried PS fanboy cares.. obviously.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Seriously pathetic. A fun game is doing well and you have warriors fighting over on which platform it sold the most. Who gives a shit lol?I don't understand why any of this is controversial, frankly. Game is successful.
MasterCornholio
Member
I see more anger about the game not being available on a platform than anything else. Arguing about where it sold the most is really a distraction from that.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
It speaks to a shifting market. Many people don't want to see a shifting market.
Lots of people are worried about the rise of GAAS and the diminishing value of consoles. Helldivers 2 makes those worries more of a reality.
Topher
Identifies as young
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
Lol, how do you explain the controversy around its success then?
Topher
Identifies as young
There is no controversy. People getting bent out of shape over ratios of PC vs console is all. It's silly.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
Yes, but why? Why do you think people care about said ratios?
Topher
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Killjoy-NL
Member
There is no shift in market.
Neither console nor PC will replace one another.
Both have vastly different demographics that are not going to jump ship, regardless of what happens. This has always been the case and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
You asked but you didn't like the answer.
Obviously the market is shifting. There's no such thing as a market that doesn't shift.
The reason why PlayStation is putting its games on PC today is because it's not 2001, when the PC market was irrelevant.
The bigger the PC market gets, the harder and harder it becomes for PlayStation to treat it as a tertiary market.
nosoynadie22
Member
On the internet I have seen people dare to say that 90% of people buy helldrivers 2 on PC and only 5% of active users are on PS5 XD
Killjoy-NL
Member
PC and consoles have always co-existed without any problems to marketshare.
It isn't much different now.
Unless you want to take Xbox as example, but their situation doesn't change anything, because the majority of their installbase which is leaving is just moving to Playstation.
Varteras
Member
I don't understand why any of this is controversial, frankly. Game is successful.
mayham2199
Member
lol no it doesn't.
LegendOfKage
Member
OR, people are already signed up for a service that provides them with 36 games a year, (or a rotating library of about 400 games), and that's where their friends are, so why not buy the game there? But yeah, for people who mainly own a PlayStation for single player exclusives, it makes sense that they'd buy it on PC. I also don't think 60% is anything to be especially proud of or ashamed of. It's selling a lot of copies everywhere.
tusharngf
Member
PC that could run that game also costs more so it's balanced.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
MP PC is full of cheaters
Aces High
Gold Member
Paying $70 every year just so you can play your purchased games online is a scam.
This will get more obvious with every online game that SIE releases on PC.
It's a crossplay game.
So PC cheaters are using the same infrastructure that console gamers are paying for.
This will get more obvious with every online game that SIE releases on PC.
It's a crossplay game.
So PC cheaters are using the same infrastructure that console gamers are paying for.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I'm taking in general.
Aces High
Gold Member
From my experience, most of the time when people talk of cheaters it's in fact just a dramatic skill difference between players.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nah, this can run on a PS4-era rig.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
this why i am talking in general terms.
Aces High
Gold Member
Yeah that's true.
I have a RX 6600 which is a weaker GPU than the one in PS5 and I can play Helldivers 2 no problem.
Kilau
Gold Member
Thaimasker
Member
The most played console games are GAAS too.
DaleinCalgary
Member
It's a good game.