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Can someone fix up my avatar, I'll update it tomorrow when I'm not on mobile.

Maybe change the colour of the hat from blue to rainbow? I dunno
Or maybe the gun
Or even the headband
 
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I demand more tears to drink.



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These assholes are always crying about protocol and what the Constitution allows and overstepping boundaries of office but when things don't work out for them when done exactly according to protocol they cry foul. Chris Christy had the best response, as far as assholes being on the wrong side of history goes. It was something along the lines of 'I don't agree with the decision, but this is America and the supreme Court is part of our decision making process so I have to accept it.'

His actual quote was different, but that's the gist of it.
 
You obviously care.

And no. The LGBT community deserves to have their moment of jubilation. For years people with hateful thoughts enshrined discriminatory laws on the books that targeted LGBT members sense of self-worth and dignity. Now, one of those pillars has collapsed. Literally, they have every reason to throw just a tiny fragment of the shit back toward these people for all the years of suffering and sadness they were put through.

If you don't like the atmosphere, there's other threads for you to brood in surely.

Boom. Exactly. And frankly, I don't feel particularly conciliatory to anybody who either dislikes this or believes I shouldn't be delighted and vocally delighted at this.

For years we've hidden away and been scared and now you're just gonna have to shut up and get on the right side of history.


Ps can anybody rainbow me?
 
These assholes are always crying about protocol and what the Constitution allows and overstepping boundaries of office but when things don't work out for them when done exactly according to protocol they cry foul.

Exactly this!

But i am very happy this happended, truly a memorable day for america. Also obligatory:

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Hey guys, I work for a local clerks office (One that has been issuing same sex marriage licenses for over a year) so I thought I would chime in on the process.

Prior to the change, the certificates were all formatted for a man and a woman. Basically, it had "groom" and "bride" listed for the two people. The marriage license allows you to get married and that is verified by having you both, your officiants and two wittinesses sign a marriage certificate. This is basically the contract part and the one the state archives and gives you a certified copy of so you have proof of marriage. (The license is actually retained by your offiiciant after the wedding.)

Anywho, being the certificate is a state form, the state has to make fundamental changes to it so it can be used by same sex couples. Considering hetro and same sex are both considered marriages, it is prudent to use one form as there is now no difference in the two getting married. Some things had to be altered; I.E. adding "spouse" to the options where bride and groom were available to check for what you want to be referred to on the certificate. Changing he/she to include he/he and she/she as well.

So, the Department of Health (in our case) had an emergency meeting after my state ruled to allow same sex marriages and made a new form to accommodate everyone. This took about 30 days. That being, for them to create a whole new certificate, change the computer program to work with it and then issue the certificate to all the counties and get their systems changed over to be able to print the new form with all the new and correct language.

So, I tell you all this so that if you are in a state that previously did not recognize same same marriages and today, after the ruling, you are planning to go on in and buy a license, I urge you to call ahead to make sure your state wasn't like mine (Washington State) in that it took a month to get forms to use from the Dept of Health. The clerks are at the mercy of the state in most cases when it comes to forms to use. The state typically has one form to use for people who get married and each clerk issues it on behalf of the state. Until the state amends the current certificate and gets it out there, there is not much a county clerk can do. Obviously, YMMV but from what I understand, the process is pretty similar in each state.

Regardless, congrats to everyone who has been fighting for equality! History was made yesterday, and this is something that we will be able to tell future generations about. Voices can and will be heard!
 
Well this is great news, just the thing I needed. Been having a shitmonth and seeing the world actually evolving and being progressive always makes my day! Maybe even my month.

If anyone feels like rainbowfying my avatar, feel free, I'll gladly show support!

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Do you want it to say iApprove instead?
 
Posted this in the avatar thread but might as well post it here too since there's so many talented people:

Could someone possibly rainbow-ify this avatar?
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Clothes/headband/ribbon would be preferable, but just a rainbow background would be cool if it's too much work.

Thank you :)
 
You obviously care.

And no. The LGBT community deserves to have their moment of jubilation. For years people with hateful thoughts enshrined discriminatory laws on the books that targeted LGBT members sense of self-worth and dignity. Now, one of those pillars has collapsed. Literally, they have every reason to throw just a tiny fragment of the shit back toward these people for all the years of suffering and sadness they were put through.

If you don't like the atmosphere, there's other threads for you to brood in surely.

The only thing I care about is bigots calling other people bigots and people being giant hypocrits. The LGBT community isn't the only one in the world who has been " oppressed " during the history of this world. But they are likely one of the few who openly throw stones at the very people that threw stones at them and for the exact same reasons the stones were thrown in the first place.

See my point? Its hypocritical, and shows them to be bigots themselves. I'm all for celebration, as I've recently called my aunt who came out 10 years ago in front of a very religious family, to congratulate as she will be wedding the woman she loves after being together for 8 years now. Celebration is expected. But openly antagonizing people and spitting on people makes you no better then the people who did the spitting before. Now, let me iterate, I'm mostly talking about those who quietly had issues with the situation due to religious reasons or something like that. The people who were hateful toward people of the gay community simply but being that way, they have their own demons to deal with no doubt. Still don't think anyone deserves open mocking and ridicule though. I've known people on both sides of the equation, having grown up the way I have and where I have.

Bigotry is not a one way street, even if it is justified on some levels.

But hey, thanks for trying to act like you know anything about me or my thoughts on the subject there Amir0x. I'm happy more people are happy in this country. From the looks of this thread, a lot more people need to be happy. Be happy, not hateful. All I'm saying.
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.
 
Reading this post made me fear for what sort of reactionary movement we can expect from extremist homophobic trash out there :(

At this point it's pretty clear that the backlash will encompass the following:

-A renewed push on the far-right for a definition-of-marriage-amendment to the Constitution
-Continued efforts in state legislatures to pass "religious freedom" laws to legalize discriminatory business practices
-Conservative obstructionism on getting LGBT as a protected class in the states where it's currently not (which is more than half of them)

Expect the first two to come up frequently in the GOP presidential debates.
 
Reading this post made me fear for what sort of reactionary movement we can expect from extremist homophobic trash out there :(

There are always going to be people who are filled with hate. I see it everyday. One of the truly sad things about it is it comes from people who proclaim to love God. I grew up in a faith based environment and believe in God but I believe he is a God of love. For all creatures. It makes me sick to see the right wing conservatives bash and condemn two people in love all the while committing their own sins every day. It's close-minded, disingenuous of Gods message and comes from a place of hate and evil. I just try to forgive them as I am forgiven for the stupid shit I have done in my life.

There are just people who are stuck in the past. Racism still exists. Homophobia still exists, sexism still exists. It is an unfortunate part of the world we live in but we cannot be scared or taken back by it. We need to keep fighting for what is right and shining the light on those who would subdue us. No man or woman should judge another. It is our place to love and support our neighbors, even if we don't agree philosophically with them. We are all brothers and sisters. We are all human beings.
 
The only thing I care about is bigots calling other people bigots and people being giant hypocrits. The LGBT community isn't the only one in the world who has been " oppressed " during the history of this world. But they are likely one of the few who openly throw stones at the very people that threw stones at them and for the exact same reasons the stones were thrown in the first place.

See my point? Its hypocritical, and shows them to be bigots themselves. I'm all for celebration, as I've recently called my aunt who came out 10 years ago in front of a very religious family, to congratulate as she will be wedding the woman she loves after being together for 8 years now. Celebration is expected. But openly antagonizing people and spitting on people makes you no better then the people who did the spitting before. Now, let me iterate, I'm mostly talking about those who quietly had issues with the situation due to religious reasons or something like that. The people who were hateful toward people of the gay community simply but being that way, they have their own demons to deal with no doubt. Still don't think anyone deserves open mocking and ridicule though. I've known people on both sides of the equation, having grown up the way I have and where I have.

Bigotry is not a one way street, even if it is justified on some levels.

But hey, thanks for trying to act like you know anything about me or my thoughts on the subject there Amir0x. I'm happy more people are happy in this country. From the looks of this thread, a lot more people need to be happy. Be happy, not hateful. All I'm saying.

Wait, so you're calling the people who are shaming bigots "bigots" as well?

Bigots of what, exactly? Bigotry? If yes, then that is one form of bigotry I can get behind.

You understand that the people who are being ridiculed in this thread have made life literally miserable for a huge population of America, yes? THAT is why they are labeled "bigots". So you're saying that the mere act of LAUGHING at these people makes us "bigots" as well? To place the actions of bigots over the past god knows how many years anywhere NEAR the same level as just laughing and making fun of them is utterly ridiculous.

Your understanding and use of the word "bigot" is odd to me.

Edit: Further, your use of the "throwing stones" metaphor is downright offensive. The stones bigots have historically thrown are tangible (mostly in the form of legislation, but sometimes in a more literal sense). The stones being "thrown" by LGBT people and their supporters now are nothing but words. No LGBT or LGBT supporter is asking for rights to be taken away from bigots, but that is exactly what bigots have done historically.

Again. To say that the actions are anywhere near equal is just totally disingenuous.
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.

Well if you're heterosexual then you're probably not going to get tons of pleasure out of fantasizing about gay sex or watching gay porn. Homosexual people might look at straight porn and say "ew" and be completely repulsed by it. There's absolutely no reason for people to harbor negative feelings for each other over their sexual preferences.

Internally it doesn't feel any different to me than liking or disliking certain types of food. Unless you think me not liking most seafood is America's moral 9/11...
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.

I think it's a normal reaction. However, why would you think of man on man sex in first place?
 
I think it's a normal reaction. However, why would you think of man on man sex in first place?

I don't, but sometimes you're just browsing porn sites, and you'll accidentally see an image of gay porn, and yeah, it just really kills any arousal in me, and is pretty repulsive to me.

Well if you're heterosexual then you're probably not going to get tons of pleasure out of fantasizing about gay sex or watching gay porn. Homosexual people might look at straight porn and say "ew" and be completely repulsed by it. There's absolutely no reason for people to harbor negative feelings for each other over their sexual preferences.

Internally it doesn't feel any different to me than liking or disliking certain types of food. Unless you think me not liking most seafood is America's moral 9/11...

I guess you got a point there. Puts my mind at ease a bit, I just hate seeming like a hypocrite saying it's awesome that gay marriage exist, but then saying eww about their preference.
 
Posted this in the avatar thread but might as well post it here too since there's so many talented people:

Could someone possibly rainbow-ify this avatar?
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Clothes/headband/ribbon would be preferable, but just a rainbow background would be cool if it's too much work.

Thank you :)

I'd love to have a rainbow Rubick for this momentous occassion!

Bah fuck it, why not. You two ARE the last two for now though! I'm only doing 'em because Rubick is involved...

*EDIT* You'll have to wait :( Just realised my food is ready... patience friends.
 
Wait, so you're calling the people who are shaming bigots "bigots" as well?

Bigots of what, exactly? Bigotry? If yes, then that is one form of bigotry I can get behind.

You understand that the people who are being ridiculed in this thread have made life literally miserable for a huge population of America, yes? THAT is why they are labeled "bigots". So you're saying that the mere act of LAUGHING at these people makes us "bigots" as well? To place the actions of bigots over the past god knows how many years anywhere NEAR the same level as just laughing and making fun of them is utterly ridiculous.

Your understanding and use of the word "bigot" is odd to me.

The world bigot has a definition you know.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

I understand the reason for it. Definitely. But will never feel like it is right no matter what the circumstances. Don't see how it does anything to help the situation.

As for your edited portion. I'm seeing a whole lot more then " laughing " on my facebook feeds and in this thread and elsewhere. A whole lot of hatred being spewed and a whole lot of name calling and antagonizing. Which is why I used the 9 year old screaming Na Na example prior. Just happened upon this thread here so had to express my feelings on the matter. No doubt I'm happy for everyone in the community here and elsewhere.

But, I've said my piece. Dunno if I expressed my opinion fluidly enough though. Rushed as I'm at work and keep getting calls so its breaking everything up and killing my thought processes lol
 
Much needed salt for my popcorn tyvm

It's OK to be grossed out by people who mash their parts and are the same sex

It's Not OK to wish those people would die

The Republican God still hates gays, and they're still going to hell (in the republican fantasy of course). America was never the republican god's america, so most of their points are moot. You would think that (en masse) an entire political party wouldn't cry out arguments that could be dismantled by an average grade student but hey. This is may be the much awaited proof, that republicans (as we've known them) are finally dying out.
 
I don't, but sometimes you're just browsing porn sites, and you'll accidentally see an image of gay porn, and yeah, it just really kills any arousal in me, and is pretty repulsive to me.

Well if you aren't attracted to men, then of course watching two men go at it is going to be a turn off. While I'm not actively grossed out by lesbian porn, it doesn't do anything for me and watching it is like a short burst of amusement, and something I'd have to jokingly watch with someone else to be able to not get bored in the long-term.

I suppose I've heard quite a few people (of all sexualities) find porn that doesn't turn them on to be gross or disturbing. I personally can't relate to it going at that level as the least I get out of it is boredom. But at least know that you aren't alone.
 
The world bigot has a definition you know.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

I understand the reason for it. Definitely. But will never feel like it is right no matter what the circumstances. Don't see how it does anything to help the situation.

Dictionary definitions and colloquial use of words don't always match up. It would be completely ridiculous to call me a bigot just because I'm disgusted by someone's favorite ice cream flavor, for example, even if the dictionary definition would support that usage.

Also, see my above edit.
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.

Well I mean if it's your natural reaction then you can't help it.

The important part is you recognize that it's not cool to use that to vilify gay men. As long as you don't outwardly show that reaction to gay people and make them feel like a nonperson then you have a leg up on a lot of people.
 
The world bigot has a definition you know.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

I understand the reason for it. Definitely. But will never feel like it is right no matter what the circumstances. Don't see how it does anything to help the situation.

I don't get this. We need to be tolerant of people who think homosexuality is the devils work and the ultimate sin and sought to disenfranchise and ridicule them for generations until now they finally get their moment in the sun?

Should I also be respectful of people I know who are avowed racists?

"I don't like black people"

"Well I guess since I must respect your opinion then that's that, wouldn't want to be a bigot after all"

Edit: There vs Their. Gah grammar skills fading
 
The world bigot has a definition you know.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

I understand the reason for it. Definitely. But will never feel like it is right no matter what the circumstances. Don't see how it does anything to help the situation.

But that is not the definition of bigot.
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.
You're probably straight, so that's a perfectly fine reaction. I'd have the same reaction watching two women. Just don't make your feelings visible when you see two gay people on the street kissing. That's when it becomes disrespectful.
 
Well I mean if it's your natural reaction then you can't help it.

The important part is you recognize that it's not cool to use that to vilify gay men. As long as you don't outwardly show that reaction to gay people and make them feel like a nonperson then you have a leg up on a lot of people.

I typically don't. Like I said, I think this is awesome step forward for our country, and just hate that I live in a state with asshat for governor who wants to overturn this. I'm all about freedom of being yourself ^_^
 
I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.

Don't really find that bigoted at all. Of course that's what your natural reaction would be, that;s your sexual orientation after all
 
Blows my mind that its 2015 and people still get so butt blasted if someone else is homosexual

It doesnt affect your life in any way. Let them be human beings and love who they want to love

Think about all the horrible shit you say about gay people, and then replace the word GAY with the words BLACK or WOMAN

Sounds fucked up doesnt it?
 
gratz to the american gay comunity. :)

the salt everywhere is hilarious.

I hope just saying this doesn't put me into too much of a negative light. I think this is awesome that this happened. I'm all for freedom, and I think people have the right to love whoever they want to, and to marry who they want to.

What does it say about me though that I think homosexual sexual behavior to be kinda gross though? =/ I'm not even one of those guys who gets off on watching 2 women, but I do admit that I could probably watch them easier than seeing 2 men. It's not a conscious thing really either, it's just a reaction that my mind thinks is gross :(

I'm afraid it makes me seem bigoted when consciously I don't want to be.

beeing repulsed by something doesn't make you a bigot. trying to force your repulsion on other people and dictating their life, is what would make you one.

there are many kinds of porn i feel repulsed by, others would think its the greatest thing ever. (for example, i know a dude that wanked to 2 girls one cup...)
 
I'm curious how my dad is taking this. While he's never said he hates gay marriage or anything. I got the feeling he disapproves.


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Last ones for now, hope everyone likes 'em!

Awww. Can I be first in line?
 
I just hate seeming like a hypocrite saying it's awesome that gay marriage exist, but then saying eww about their preference.

I think this is an interesting subject. I think a lot of the 'ew' comes from the whole stigma of 'IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY KILL IT WITH FIRE'. Without that whole dynamic going on, I bet there will be a lot more sexual openness and bisexuality, and a LOT less eww in the forthcoming generations.

I used to be a homophobe and as I have changed full-cirlce part of my realizations is that even if my son is "straight as shit" he will probably be wayyyy more open than me. And the whole 'girls kissing girls and still being straight' crap, I think we'll start seeing more stuff like that regardless of gender, more blurring of the lines instead of people being scared shitless of even thinking about the thought of having a non-heterosexual experience
 
I'm curious how my dad is taking this. While he's never said he hates gay marriage or anything. I got the feeling he disapproves.

My dad and brother are homophobic. Sometimes I wish I had that loving accepting family that some people have. Being gay when I was young was really hard, but now I don't have to hear it anymore since I'm an adult.
 
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