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[Interfectum]

Not sure if I like the changes. I really like the way dungeons were designed back then.

long, drawn out messes?

 

[letsbereasonable]

Winged dungeons?

Chopping some of the old ones in half like they did with Utgarde Keep/Pinnacle.

 

[Ferrio]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like the one dungeon that merits its giant size is Blackrock Depths, I wonder what they'll do with that one.

edit: oh wow, they skipped over it.

It would be a real real shame if they split that one up. One of the most awesomely designed dungeons.

 

[HolyCheck]

Cool, internal MMR for SC2 will persist across seasons.

very very excellent, had been worried about having to scale the heights and getting myself back into the bronze league! (seriously though, this is good, no fucking around for the pros who already dont ladder much as it is)

 

[speedpop]

Oh cool, I didn't miss out on much.

It would be a real real shame if they split that one up. One of the most awesomely designed dungeons.

Yeah, BRD was the pinnacle of 5man instances. Such a pain in the arse at times, but doing guild runs through that were some of the most enjoyable PVE experiences in the game for me.

 

[Snow]

short summary of the SC2 battle.net stuff so far:

internal mmr caries over seasons
divisions are intended to hold 20% of player population each
bonus pool will stop being added at a certain point in the season
changes will be made to prevent things like loss-botting (joining lots of 2/3/4s and insta-quiting)
division (i.e. bronze, silver, gold etc) icons will gradually change as your rank within a division gets higher
season 2 will wipe ladders and division placements
season 1 stats will be remembered
only one placement match to be replaced in a division after new season
new master league, top 5% of diamond
new grand master league, top 200 players of every region
grand master league is visible for everyone
featured replays to be added to sc2, jan-feb timeframe

 

[Deadly]

Who are these girls casting the WC3 tournament? :lol

 

[Morbid Angel]

short summary of the SC2 battle.net stuff so far:

internal mmr caries over seasons
divisions are intended to hold 20% of player population each
bonus pool will stop being added at a certain point in the season
changes will be made to prevent things like loss-botting (joining lots of 2/3/4s and insta-quiting)
division (i.e. bronze, silver, gold etc) icons will gradually change as your rank within a division gets higher
season 2 will wipe ladders and division placements
season 1 stats will be remembered
only one placement match to be replaced in a division after new season
new master league, top 5% of diamond
new grand master league, top 200 players of every region
grand master league is visible for everyone
featured replays to be added to sc2, jan-feb timeframe

Thanks!

 

[Ferrio]

Oh cool, I didn't miss out on much.


Yeah, BRD was the pinnacle of 5man instances. Such a pain in the arse at times, but doing guild runs through that were some of the most enjoyable PVE experiences in the game for me.

Mean to say BRS too. So awesome being on the bridge right before the general and looking down and seeing the whole instance below you.

 

[pxleyes]

Mmmm, new Ragnaros elemental form.

 

[tenton]

Who are these girls casting the WC3 tournament? :lol

Kim "bunny" Phan
Jaclyn "JacziE" Lo

According to the blurb I saw at some point when the camera was on them.

 

[Tacitus_]

Tbh, BRD/BRS will propably be either trimmed (UBRS/LBRS) or winged (BRD). There's way too much stuff for a leveling dungeon.

Oooh, the dungeon map now shows boss abilities, loot and a bit of lore. Nice!

 

[pxleyes]

Wooo! AtlasLoot built into the UI through Enhanced Maps.

 

[speedpop]

Yeah, seems like an excellent addition.

 

[sykoex]

I love that you'll be able to get a quick hit of lore too from the enhanced map.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

It sounds like for WoW they're going to release more Casual stuff, a 5 man that won't be relevant to raiders yadda yadda.

Glad I'm not coming back.

 

[theultimo]

Yes please, want to see these alternative cinematics people are talking about and holo stuff.

Here is a tidbit for yas I'll try to cap some later.

 

[speedpop]

It sounds like for WoW they're going to release more Casual stuff, a 5 man that won't be relevant to raiders yadda yadda.

Glad I'm not coming back.

Aww poor baby!

 

[Tacitus_]

It sounds like for WoW they're going to release more Casual stuff, a 5 man that won't be relevant to raiders yadda yadda.

Glad I'm not coming back.

Incase you didn't notice, they'll release 2-3 raids in a content patch AND a dungeon.

Boohoo, they're releasing stuff for casuals and not just Vanilla Naxxes for the <1% of the players.

Spoiler

and yes, I've killed HC LK

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

long, drawn out messes?

Actual dungeons? Actual dungeons full of shit trying to kill you? Not a boring hallway like BC and Wrath?

I swear, some people have got shit so backwards reguarding the games they play.

Oooh, the dungeon map now shows boss abilities, loot and a bit of lore. ice!

If that stuff opens up more and more you beat the dungeon, that would be very cool.

Granted, the shits on-line from a billion wow sites and most quests, but hey!

Incase you didn't notice, they'll release 2-3 raids in a content patch AND a dungeon.

As long as the iLevel doesn't skyrocket out of control, endangering class after class with brutal gutting like in Wrath, it'll be a cool idea.

 

[Won]

It sounds like for WoW they're going to release more Casual stuff, a 5 man that won't be relevant to raiders yadda yadda.

Glad I'm not coming back.

 

[Shanadeus]

This expansion doesn't really seem that packed with content as you will have access to the cataclysmed landscapes without it.

I mean, what do you really get?
You get 4 raids, a dungeon and two new races - and that's it?
Oh, and archeology.

Didn't the lich king expansion give you a whole other zone, and a hero class while the alien one gave you yet another entire zone, flying mounts and two new classes.

 

[Morbid Angel]

http://imgur.com/4IeT9.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

Excellent :lol

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Incase you didn't notice, they'll release 2-3 raids in a content patch AND a dungeon.

Boohoo, they're releasing stuff for casuals and not just Vanilla Naxxes for the <1% of the players.

Spoiler

and yes, I've killed HC LK

:lol

They SAY that now, let's see how many raids are actually released.

 

[traveler]

This expansion doesn't really seem that packed with content as you will have access to the cataclysmed landscapes without it.

I mean, what do you really get?
You get 4 raids, a dungeon and two new races - and that's it?
Oh, and archeology.

Didn't the lich king expansion give you a whole other zone, and a hero class while the alien one gave you yet another entire zone, flying mounts and two new classes.

The new endgame zones are exclusive to Cataclysm, just like in Lich King. Only the revamped old zones are available to all.

 

[Ferrio]

Actual dungeons? Actual dungeons full of shit trying to kill you? Not a boring hallway like BC and Wrath?

I swear, some people have got shit so backwards reguarding the games they play.

.

Trouble is those dungeons are a double edged sword. They're extremely cool the first.... 5 times you do it. After that holy crap, take out a gun and shoot me. They need to come up with a way you have to complete a dungeon x amount of times, then you unlock shortcuts I don't know... that might fix the problem.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Trouble is those dungeons are a double edged sword. They're extremely cool the first.... 5 times you do it. After that holy crap, take out a gun and shoot me. They need to come up with a way you have to complete a dungeon x amount of times, then you unlock shortcuts I don't know... that might fix the problem.

BRD



That, and don't later turn them into soulless grinds for Mcguffins to wear the loot you've earned off of much later bosses...

 

[theultimo]

Anyone watching the secrets Panel? Its VERY informative on countering in SC2.

 

[Tacitus_]

This expansion doesn't really seem that packed with content as you will have access to the cataclysmed landscapes without it.

I mean, what do you really get?
You get 4 raids, a dungeon and two new races - and that's it?
Oh, and archeology.

Didn't the lich king expansion give you a whole other zone, and a hero class while the alien one gave you yet another entire zone, flying mounts and two new classes.

While true that you don't get a new continent, you'll get 5 humongous zones, underwater mounts and while yes, the revamped content is available pre 60 is available for everyone, it is still a fuckton of new content.

 

[speedpop]

This expansion doesn't really seem that packed with content as you will have access to the cataclysmed landscapes without it.

I mean, what do you really get?
You get 4 raids, a dungeon and two new races - and that's it?
Oh, and archeology.

Didn't the lich king expansion give you a whole other zone, and a hero class while the alien one gave you yet another entire zone, flying mounts and two new classes.

5 zones for 80+ which is practically the same amount of zones you visited during 60-70 and 70-80. I don't know a single person who did all the quests in every zone released for Outlands and Northrend.

 

[Tacitus_]

BRD gets teleports and SFK & DM get them as well!

 

[funkmastergeneral]

BRD gets teleports and SFK & DM get them as well!

Why does DM need teleporters? It's already broken into wings.

 

[theultimo]

Wow, MMR bitching on the Q&A for SC2.

Its as bad as Halo Reach :\

 

[theultimo]

NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FOR CHAT CHANNELS IN B.NET FINALLY


REJOYCE EYERYONE!@!!!!2121!

 

[Ferrio]

BRD



That, and don't later turn them into soulless grinds for Mcguffins to wear the loot you've earned off of much later bosses...

Just pick that damn thing.

But Good point. Never did complete my ubrs key back in the day either. Man if you were one of the few with a key you were so set.

 

[Won]

Chat channels actually done, huh? We will see.....

 

[LAUGHTREY]

I wonder where they planned their next Year long break between content.


Why are these people asking these questions really really awkward?

 

[Tacitus_]

Why does DM need teleporters? It's already broken into wings.

Whoops, meant DM = Deadmines, not Dire Maul :lol

 

[theultimo]

Wow, this Q&A on the Dev channel is awesome about them taking balance seriously.

B.net profile like War3 for SC2 later next year.

 

[Shanadeus]

5 zones for 80+ which is practically the same amount of zones you visited during 60-70 and 70-80. I don't know a single person who did all the quests in every zone released for Outlands and Northrend.

While true that you don't get a new continent, you'll get 5 humongous zones, underwater mounts and while yes, the revamped content is available pre 60 is available for everyone, it is still a fuckton of new content.

That's the thing, it doesn't seem like you're getting enough content per buck when compared to the two other expansions which gave you as a buyer entire zones.
Maybe the amount that you do get look smaller when you look at what non-buyers get for free - an entirely revamped world!

 

[LAUGHTREY]

That's the thing, it doesn't seem like you're getting enough content per buck when compared to the two other expansions which gave you as a buyer entire zones.
Maybe the amount that you do get look smaller when you look at what non-buyers get for free - an entirely revamped world!

The new zones are split up and spread out more than Outlands or Northrend, but it's still close to the same amount of levelling zones.

Not buying the expansion also excludes you from pretty much everything except levelling and low level boring stuff.

 

[Tacitus_]

That's the thing, it doesn't seem like you're getting enough content per buck when compared to the two other expansions which gave you as a buyer entire zones.
Maybe the amount that you do get look smaller when you look at what non-buyers get for free - an entirely revamped world!

While I get your point, the true 'bang for your buck' comes from the endgame - dungeons, dailies, BGs and raids.

 

[Pandaman]

short summary of the SC2 battle.net stuff so far:

internal mmr caries over seasons
divisions are intended to hold 20% of player population each
bonus pool will stop being added at a certain point in the season
changes will be made to prevent things like loss-botting (joining lots of 2/3/4s and insta-quiting)
division (i.e. bronze, silver, gold etc) icons will gradually change as your rank within a division gets higher
season 2 will wipe ladders and division placements
season 1 stats will be remembered
only one placement match to be replaced in a division after new season
new master league, top 5% of diamond
new grand master league, top 200 players of every region
grand master league is visible for everyone
featured replays to be added to sc2, jan-feb timeframe

so...
0-20% - bronze
20-40% - silver
40-60% - gold
60-80% - plat
80-95% - diamond
95-99.99999% - masters
99.99999-100% grand masters
?

basically current diamond league will now be masters league? [but slightly smaller]

or just 20% for each division and masters/grand masters will be choosen based on this seasons performance? so top 2500~ would be masters?
0-20% - bronze
20-40% - silver
40-60% - gold
60-80% - plat
80-99% - diamond
99-99.9%- masters
99.9-100% - grand masters

 

[Instro]

NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FOR CHAT CHANNELS IN B.NET FINALLY


REJOYCE EYERYONE!@!!!!2121!

Fuck yea.

 

[Kodiak]

this thread is a classic example of GAF getting too hyped up for their own good.

I hadn't been thinking too much about blizzcon and then I see the announcements pop up on my feed and I'm like

but then again I played way too much D2 pvp

 

[Snow]

Apparently David Kim (one of the two dedicated sc2 balancers) is the top random in the world, which is kinda neat. Some other interesting stuff from the question and answers at the sc2 panel:


plans to show the hidden mmr?
mmr is several different numbers, for user interface its difficult to show. also doesn't change that much
concern that mmr is same across all your races, looking at that for the future

chat, clan support?
chat before end of year, public and private, nov/dec
chat is done, in qa now

last patch, plans for reaper as mid-game unit?
focus for balance on esports, 2v2 top teams 50% was reaper/ling, in 1v1 terran had too many viable opening before scouting options available
wait and see with reaper, don't know what will happen yet

war 3 had lots of stats on website?
no timetable, want to do more
'huge plans' to evolve that, no dates or specific features

splitting 1v1 for separate races?
talked about it quite a bit
don't want too split too much to make it hard to find enemies
real issue, don't know what solution is

plans for replay sharing in cloud, watch together?
there absolutely are
hard at work at doing
next year

 

[speedpop]

Can't wait to see the Diablo III cinematics.

 

[theultimo]

Schedule right now:

 

[EmCeeGramr]

So for anyone who missed it, where is it the Diablo 3 stuff going to go up?

 

[Tacitus_]

So for anyone who missed it, where is it the Diablo 3 stuff going to go up?

Propably on loads of fansites & if you've got the ticket you can watch it already on-demand.