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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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deanote666
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The heck you talking about?
Standing at the top of qingyun peak was breathtaking looking out at the scale of everything when standing on top of it.
The mist in between the pillars in huaguang stone forest looked awesome.
Pejo
Member
The only good things about Liyue, in my opinion, are Chenyu Vale and the internal Chasm map and they came way later. The overworld was unremarkable. What area do you consider to be "more boring" than 1.0 Liyue?
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deanote666
Member
It's all relative. Back in 1.0, everything was new and exciting.
In 5.0, there's areas of the map I've barely touched in years. I spend more time in 1.0 areas than some of the newer areas actually. Newer areas are more pretty but 1.0 areas are more convenient for quick resource grabs or leyline runs to burn resin.
Pejo
Member
Convenience wasn't my claim though, it was that the area was boring.
Pejo
Member
Dang, that new Natlan event has a catalyst that's really good for Mualani. I didn't even see that there was a weapon reward until I went hunting red dots in the menu and found that I collected enough stuff to claim it.
If I had one complaint about Genshin's new major version patches, it's that they always have way too much to do right at the beginning of the patch. Wish they'd start these events at the 2nd banner of a new patch to give people some time to just do the exploration/unlocking waypoints stuff.
If I had one complaint about Genshin's new major version patches, it's that they always have way too much to do right at the beginning of the patch. Wish they'd start these events at the 2nd banner of a new patch to give people some time to just do the exploration/unlocking waypoints stuff.
InterMusketeer
Member
The craftable one is actually better for her. The event weapon's effect cooldown is too long. It can't compete. A shame, because thematically the event weapon is nicer.
Yeah, I feel the same. They even encourage the player to quickly finish quests to get those additional rewards. Feels like I'm rushing through. On the other hand though, the extra materials you get are really useful in building your characters. I've been trying to have fun with Mualani but she kinda sucks in combat at lower investment. And at least there's a lot of exploration and world quests and such to do after the big quests are done. You shouldn't run out of things to do for a while.
InterMusketeer
Member
You guys surfing through Natlan and me still crying about Monsieur Osse's death.
deanote666
Member
Did a yolo 10 pull, won 50/50 at 12 pulls, and got Mualani to C2.
InterMusketeer
Member
Bro, can you share some luck with the class? You did like 40 pulls total and got C2! But congrats. Her cons seem pretty fun.
deanote666
Member
I was doing the Natlan weapon domain yesterday and got 2 runs in a row with a gold drop so I decided to capitalize on RNG clustering, and it worked out.
Icymanipulator
Member
To piggyback on the Liyue is boring topic:
I enjoyed that area immensely, I probably sound like a broken record, but I have wonderful memories of gliding around that area and listening to the beautiful music, so much verticality there, felt magical. Seeing into the distance, passing through the clouds as the sun set, finding cool little areas like the pool of water over by cloud retainers area.
Sumeru has been my least favorite area so far.
I enjoyed that area immensely, I probably sound like a broken record, but I have wonderful memories of gliding around that area and listening to the beautiful music, so much verticality there, felt magical. Seeing into the distance, passing through the clouds as the sun set, finding cool little areas like the pool of water over by cloud retainers area.
Sumeru has been my least favorite area so far.
March Climber
Member
Quick question for anyone who knows: If I played the PS5 version a while back (I think I made an account with Hoyoverse I don't remember), can I eventually download the new Xbox version and load the same save?
InterMusketeer
Member
I enjoyed Liyue because I enjoyed Genshin. Finding out there was a huge second area to explore after Mondstadt was truly exciting. But looking back on it, both initial areas were mediocre. I'd say the first truly good content came into the game with Dragonspine.
Sumeru's forest area is great. The desert was a bit one-note, and I struggled with the lack of underground maps, but they fixed that. I think Sumeru is really good now as long as you space it all out a bit.
Apparently Microsoft confirmed cross-progression during a Twitch stream, but I can't find the specific clip. Even if you played on your PSN account, you can link it to a regular Hoyo account and keep your progress on other platforms.
Pejo
Member
The southwestern desert in Sumeru with the pyramids was great. It would have helped to have the underground map feature when they were released, but I still managed. I'm a big sucker for Egyptian themes and mythology though, so that probably makes me biased.
The desert area with the sandstorm was the absolute worst area in the game, IMO. I don't consider Liyue bad btw, just boring. The puzzles, the architecture, the landscapes are all boring. Thought so when I was playing through it for the first time, too. Mondstadt had a sort of "feels like home" thing going for it, but it's pretty standard too, but I loved Stormterror's domain and a few other areas, and obviously Dragonspine.
There are standout Liyue locations like the Stone Forest and Cloud Retainer's little mountaintop pond, but overall it didn't leave any strong impressions on me until Chasm and Chenyu Vale.
Anyways, Xilonen is getting special effects that activate if you are her using her signature weapon, similar to what we saw with Arlecchino:
The desert area with the sandstorm was the absolute worst area in the game, IMO. I don't consider Liyue bad btw, just boring. The puzzles, the architecture, the landscapes are all boring. Thought so when I was playing through it for the first time, too. Mondstadt had a sort of "feels like home" thing going for it, but it's pretty standard too, but I loved Stormterror's domain and a few other areas, and obviously Dragonspine.
There are standout Liyue locations like the Stone Forest and Cloud Retainer's little mountaintop pond, but overall it didn't leave any strong impressions on me until Chasm and Chenyu Vale.
Anyways, Xilonen is getting special effects that activate if you are her using her signature weapon, similar to what we saw with Arlecchino:
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
Lol Mualani's quest ends with the real treasure is the friends we made all along trope.
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InterMusketeer
Member
Probably for the best. I'd rather they function almost as skins, while having goog F2P options available too.
jonnyXx
Member
Too bad you will rarely ever see this since she doesn't use her sword while in Nightsoul state, she kicks with her rollerblades.
I wish there was an option to always display weapons on characters instead of having them disappear.
Jibran#one
Member
So out of all these free charter in the 5.0 patch who do u recommend for a player who's like lvl 30
I have amber noell Lisa kaeya all lvl 40z atm
I have amber noell Lisa kaeya all lvl 40z atm
Icymanipulator
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J
Jibran#one
I picked Dehya,
For a new account maybe Jean? As she can heal, and works well with lots of other characters.
But honestly, you should pick who you like and /or want to play.
Except QiQi, don’t pick her.
I picked Dehya,
For a new account maybe Jean? As she can heal, and works well with lots of other characters.
But honestly, you should pick who you like and /or want to play.
Except QiQi, don’t pick her.
deanote666
Member
My sister picked Qiqi.
InterMusketeer
Member
So I've been seeing some comments and videos disputing how capturing radiance works. Some people seem to think that the game keeps a tally of how many 50/50s you've lost in a row. After two losses in a row, the odds will change to 75/25. If you lose that one too, the next 5-star will be guaranteed. If you win with those increased odds, you will trigger the special animation. Apparently there's math and data to back this up, though I can't say if those are genuine.
To me this sounds better, since it limits bad luck streaks. It will trigger for the poor souls who really need it. But it also means the mechanic and thus the 55/45 isn't always available to players. It's important that we figure out how it works, so we might plan for it. According to this new theory, previous lost 50/50s don't count as it only starts tallying from 5.0 and on.
I'd say getting an on-field damage dealer like Diluc, Keqing or Tighnari is probably going to be the most fun for now, if you don't have any yet. But you're probably better off getting Mualani or Kinich from the limited banner if that's the case.
In terms of supportive characters, Jean is probably the most unique and fun. Dehya was considered terrible before, but she's become more relevant lately. Mona and Qiqi are the ones I'd recommend the least.
But really, all of these characters are easily replaceable. It depends on what else you already have and who you're planning to pull. If you don't (want to) plan ahead, just pick whoever you like the most.
To me this sounds better, since it limits bad luck streaks. It will trigger for the poor souls who really need it. But it also means the mechanic and thus the 55/45 isn't always available to players. It's important that we figure out how it works, so we might plan for it. According to this new theory, previous lost 50/50s don't count as it only starts tallying from 5.0 and on.
You never pulled for any other characters? That's what it's really gonna depend on.
I'd say getting an on-field damage dealer like Diluc, Keqing or Tighnari is probably going to be the most fun for now, if you don't have any yet. But you're probably better off getting Mualani or Kinich from the limited banner if that's the case.
In terms of supportive characters, Jean is probably the most unique and fun. Dehya was considered terrible before, but she's become more relevant lately. Mona and Qiqi are the ones I'd recommend the least.
But really, all of these characters are easily replaceable. It depends on what else you already have and who you're planning to pull. If you don't (want to) plan ahead, just pick whoever you like the most.
jonnyXx
Member
Just finished the theater on the new difficulty and it was actually fun. The new blessings they added are much more impactful, they buff reactions as well as give stat boosts to characters. Makes the scuffed team lineups you can end up with not so frustrating to play. That however makes it even easier than it already was, I fought the last boss with Neuvi, Arle, Tighnari and Clorinde
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It was a cakewalk except I missed the flower on the last boss by 2 fucking seconds and you can't retry that boss after beating it, I'd have to redo the whole thing to get that last flower.
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Did it again and got the final flower on the last boss this time with Neuvi, Lyney, Kachina, and Collei. So yea with those blessings you can make anything work as long as you're triggering reactions.
.It was a cakewalk except I missed the flower on the last boss by 2 fucking seconds and you can't retry that boss after beating it, I'd have to redo the whole thing to get that last flower.
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Did it again and got the final flower on the last boss this time with Neuvi, Lyney, Kachina, and Collei. So yea with those blessings you can make anything work as long as you're triggering reactions.
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Icymanipulator
Member
Ok, stayed up late last night and burnt through the rest of Fontaine archon quest. Ready for Natlan now.
Nankatsu
Member
Man Natlan Archon quest so far feels like I'm rewatching the Chunin exams from Naruto.
Missed opportunity by Hoyo in not making
Anyway Natlan is pretty fun. I dig the different mechanics and transversal the animals offer. Hats of, I'm surprised and liking it a lot.
I'm skipping Mualani, even thought I find her super cool, because Kinich and Ajaw mechanic it's just my cup of tea.
Missed opportunity by Hoyo in not making
The final 5 warriors summonable characters. Those 2 randoms there felt stupid as fuck.
Anyway Natlan is pretty fun. I dig the different mechanics and transversal the animals offer. Hats of, I'm surprised and liking it a lot.
I'm skipping Mualani, even thought I find her super cool, because Kinich and Ajaw mechanic it's just my cup of tea.
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InterMusketeer
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5.1 banners are supposedly Xilonen with Chiori, followed by Nahida with Hu Tao.
Who's pulling Hu Tao at this point? I theorized that maybe they'd bring back the Chronicled Wish in Liyue style to keep excitement up a bit in 5.1 since there's only one new character, but I guess not. Looks like they're going through all their Archons before Mavuika releases.
Who's pulling Hu Tao at this point? I theorized that maybe they'd bring back the Chronicled Wish in Liyue style to keep excitement up a bit in 5.1 since there's only one new character, but I guess not. Looks like they're going through all their Archons before Mavuika releases.
Dragon_Rocks
Member
Thoughts/theories on the latest harbinger introduced?
Nankatsu
Member
Are you guys liking Mavuika's personality? Idk, while her design seems awesome, her personality feels a bit off.
I don't like her kumbaya vibe to be honest, at least not what I was expecting from the Pyro Archon.
And the whole time traveling mambo jambo, they went full Kingdom Hearts on this shit
Props to Mihoyo for sneaking Tupac into the game however
I don't like her kumbaya vibe to be honest, at least not what I was expecting from the Pyro Archon.
And the whole time traveling mambo jambo, they went full Kingdom Hearts on this shit
Props to Mihoyo for sneaking Tupac into the game however
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
Are you guys liking Mavuika's personality? Idk, while her design seems awesome, her personality feels a bit off.
I don't like her kumbaya vibe to be honest, at least not what I was expecting from the Pyro Archon.
And the whole time traveling mambo jambo, they went full Kingdom Hearts on this shit
Props to Mihoyo for sneaking Tupac into the game however
I felt like that in the beginning but then her story tells us that she is a human who had human family and friends before she became an archon so she acts more like a human than a god/divine being.. This scene was super cute though. Took his weapon and then broke it.
InterMusketeer
Member
Really? I think it's fantastic and greatly varied too. African, Peruvian, Mexican, Brazilian, even Hawaiian, it's all mixed here. There has got to be something in there you like. My favorite is probably this one.
ap_puff
Banned
The music is solid but it really feels lacking in a unified theme. Like I can instantly remember the mondstadt, liyue, sumeru and fontaine themes but natlan isn't really hitting the same, maybe the point is that it's a diverse region that all has their own things going but it makes it kinda hard to identify with, idk if that makes sense
Pejo
Member
So I've been on a trip for my gf's birthday for the past week or so, I don't get how you guys play this game on mobile for anything other than dailies. I ended up Zhongli'ing my daily resin dumps on new Natlan material bosses, but that's about all I was able to muster with touch controls. Zhongli feels damn near mandatory for mobile play because it doesn't matter what enemies are doing in that case. Natlan's daily quests aren't too bad, but I got unlucky draw a few times and had the "defend the pylon" type where I just Zhongli'd up and Arlecchino'd the enemies without bothering to adjust the camera. I can't believe that controller support on mobile is STILL exclusive to iOS. Apple must have paid a fortune or given up some % revenue share or something, because that would have made the entire thing so much better.
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Boy, what a bad day to be able to read leaks.
If they make Mavuika the first dogshit Archon...
Welcome to the thread! I've been really enjoying the Natlan OST so far. The reggae-ish one is currently my favorite. You have to kinda keep in mind that the nation is split into tribes, so there won't be one congruent theme like in other nations. But the water tribe stuff is my jam. Mostly the character themes and boss themes end up being my favorite though, because they have more clear melodies.
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Boy, what a bad day to be able to read leaks.
If they make Mavuika the first dogshit Archon...
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Nankatsu
Member
If they make Mavuika the first dogshit Archon...
Double 5-star banners? Like two new units in one banners?
ap_puff
Banned
So I've been on a trip for my gf's birthday for the past week or so, I don't get how you guys play this game on mobile for anything other than dailies. I ended up Zhongli'ing my daily resin dumps on new Natlan material bosses, but that's about all I was able to muster with touch controls. Zhongli feels damn near mandatory for mobile play because it doesn't matter what enemies are doing in that case. Natlan's daily quests aren't too bad, but I got unlucky draw a few times and had the "defend the pylon" type where I just Zhongli'd up and Arlecchino'd the enemies without bothering to adjust the camera. I can't believe that controller support on mobile is STILL exclusive to iOS. Apple must have paid a fortune or given up some % revenue share or something, because that would have made the entire thing so much better.
Welcome to the thread! I've been really enjoying the Natlan OST so far. The reggae-ish one is currently my favorite. You have to kinda keep in mind that the nation is split into tribes, so there won't be one congruent theme like in other nations. But the water tribe stuff is my jam. Mostly the character themes and boss themes end up being my favorite though, because they have more clear melodies.
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Boy, what a bad day to be able to read leaks.
If they make Mavuika the first dogshit Archon...
That leak is sus as hell, also since when do they talk about C6 without mentioning the other aspects of the kit?
Pejo
Member
To be honest, leakers have been full of shit the past 3-4 versions now. Remember the pre-Natlan leaks that we weren't getting Kachina but we'd get a free Bennett? I'll wait at the very least until we get some corroborating evidence that some of these are true. I can see (and have been prepared) for Mavuika to be mostly off-field, since that's how all Archons are, but to only buff Natlan characters seems too much. Especially with how long we've been needing a good off-field pyro DPS to rival Xiangling.
Kinda crazy if we really are getting young Ping though. I thought for sure that one was all made up, but it keeps coming back.
I just REALLY don't want them to fuck up Mavuika, and there's potentially all kinds of ways that they can, and might.
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New potentially playable character (has a vision)
Named Ororon in English
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InterMusketeer
Member
I doubt they would allow the Archon of all characters to be underwhelming. I wouldn't be surprised if she could refill her teammates' nightsoul points, but I doubt they'd completely lock her to Natlan-only teams.
Apparently "Imisan" is a derogatory term for MHY that antis use to shit on the company and its games, so it's a bit hard to take those leaks seriously. Why would someone like that have access to this information and leak it?
Speaking of rarity though, in the Archon quest it's revealed that Iansan is one of the acknowledged reincarnated heroes so maybe that could indicate rarity? Kinda hoping for that.
Apparently "Imisan" is a derogatory term for MHY that antis use to shit on the company and its games, so it's a bit hard to take those leaks seriously. Why would someone like that have access to this information and leak it?
Speaking of rarity though, in the Archon quest it's revealed that Iansan is one of the acknowledged reincarnated heroes so maybe that could indicate rarity? Kinda hoping for that.
deanote666
Member
Just realized Tighnari, Dehya, and Qiqi are the only standard banner/lose 50/50 5* characters I don't have C6.
Having trouble stopping exploration to try and do the archon quest. How long does it take to complete? I'm at the stadium gonna take awhile warning.
Having trouble stopping exploration to try and do the archon quest. How long does it take to complete? I'm at the stadium gonna take awhile warning.
mayham2199
Member
I'm still stuck in Sumeru and man the story is bad here. I'm stuck in some quest where the day seems to be resetting or something like that. Does the story get any better in the other nations? I liked Inazuma a lot and thought the writing was getting better until I reached Sumeru.
Nankatsu
Member
A bit. You have at least 3 more story phases until you reach the end.
deanote666
Member
At most, you missed out on a lot of free event weapons and a couple of limited time quests did have some important story. There's always youtube for the starfall and Albedo event stories.
The only game breaking character is Zhongli. His shield is easy mode. This game can be completed with any character so you can still play the game normally without a full roster. The game gives free copies of characters for regions new mechanics were introduced so the game gives you enough characters that you can complete the game.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I said i hated Inazuma a while ago...i take that back.
Stuff like this made it impossible to hate anything from that place:
I'm on Sumeru now. Stopped a bit for the new missions from Natlan and i now have Kazuha. Trying to go for his 5 star weapon. Don't care for the other character and i don't have 5 star weapons anyway.
Speaking of that queen above...i heard she's one of the next banners right? Fuck...i'll try to get that 5 star weapon and Raiden on the next ones.
Stuff like this made it impossible to hate anything from that place:
I'm on Sumeru now. Stopped a bit for the new missions from Natlan and i now have Kazuha. Trying to go for his 5 star weapon. Don't care for the other character and i don't have 5 star weapons anyway.
Speaking of that queen above...i heard she's one of the next banners right? Fuck...i'll try to get that 5 star weapon and Raiden on the next ones.
InterMusketeer
Member
The most important content in the game (exploration and story) are always available to anyone. At worst you won't be able to obtain as many characters as longtime players, but that's not a big deal. Most of them are luxury characters, so you don't have to absolutely get them.
Icymanipulator
Member
Absolutely. You can clear all the story with the characters game provides you with. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
New characters are always getting released, and older ones will gets reruns if there’s someone you have your eye on.
I don’t pull for meta at all, I only pull based on who I like and who I think looks cool lol
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deanote666
Member
How the heck did you get neogaf to let you post a gif?I said i hated Inazuma a while ago...i take that back.
Stuff like this made it impossible to hate anything from that place:
I'm on Sumeru now. Stopped a bit for the new missions from Natlan and i now have Kazuha. Trying to go for his 5 star weapon. Don't care for the other character and i don't have 5 star weapons anyway.
Speaking of that queen above...i heard she's one of the next banners right? Fuck...i'll try to get that 5 star weapon and Raiden on the next ones.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I post gifs all the time in here. "Insert Image" and post the gif link in there. Like a regular jpg, png etc image.