So do I. It's one of my preferred ones in the MCU. And I don't even care for Thor much
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Geoff Johns on the Future of DC Movies
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So do I. It's one of my preferred ones in the MCU. And I don't even care for Thor much
Nope. All insider info seems pretty positive on it right now.
Just_myles
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Honestly here is the thing Johns:
I watch every comic book movie that comes out, even the shitty Fox ones(excluding deadpool). Because I love the genre.
However, for the movies that are done well(not amazing, just done right and respectful to the source material) which is for the most part, Marvel movies I will watch them more than once in their first opening weeks. Last I checked, those numbers are important. I think you should keep that in mind.
I watch every comic book movie that comes out, even the shitty Fox ones(excluding deadpool). Because I love the genre.
However, for the movies that are done well(not amazing, just done right and respectful to the source material) which is for the most part, Marvel movies I will watch them more than once in their first opening weeks. Last I checked, those numbers are important. I think you should keep that in mind.
Father_Brain
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I've heard that DC's royalty arrangements are structured very differently from Marvel's, in a way that would make that prohibitively expensive. No idea how accurate that is, though.
Team Filler
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Bummer, I've been holding out hope for the longest time that DC would follow Marvel in that aspect. I guess for the time being I'll stick to GAF recommendations.
I swear to god if The Omega Men doesn't live up to its praise...
I think the standing theory (not sure how much credence there is to it) is that DC's business pulls in too much from trade sales, that there's fear a subscription service may cut into that.
Discotheque
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Fitting. Both performances as of late have just been action figures who look good in their costumes.
It's a good film.
Mix Master
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Johns and the DC folks need to start looking at fixing Arrow, or Felicity and Friends.
Folks saying they like Thor 2 should be Banned, don't reward Disney with praise for sub- par CBM films.
Folks saying they like Thor 2 should be Banned, don't reward Disney with praise for sub- par CBM films.
Trash opinion, Cap>>>> supes
Primethius
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Bahaha. Evans might not be the greatest but he's miles ahead of Cavil in either Superman role.
Mix Master
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I've heard Cavill was great in UNCLE so I blame it on snyder
Thatonemoor
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Am I late on the Marthas?
The MarthaPoint Paradox?
The MarthaPoint Paradox?
broncobuster
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Thanks. That's a shame. Always had blind spots from both, by nature of having only so much time and money to follow select characters. So MU is wonderful for, to use a personal anecdote, getting interested in GotG after he movie and spending the following days deep diving into it all.
Primethius
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While I haven't seen the movie, he did look much better in it.
But the performance he delivered in the two Superman movies? Nah.
Discotheque
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don't agree with that. he's a bland walking talking action figure in the cap films. i'm not saying they're equal but they are both pretty similar performances to me. he gets so overrated as cap around here. cavill would have given a comparable performance as captain america tbh.
i guess it's just the nature of the character too i suppose. always the least interesting person on screen in these marvel movies until he fights. like he's hilarious in Scott Pilgrim and cavill was...ehh...he was ok in man from Uncle so i suppose they're just being directed as cardboard cutouts with good hearts.
You've tried to argue Gal Gadot is as good an actor as Hemsworth and Evans.
Your opinions on this matter is wack.
Evans owns his role, even when he isn't fighting. Cap doesn't do that much fighting in the first half of TFA, yet that's the best parts of the movie. And while the WS is praised a lot for its' action, the character work outside of that is also very good.
I've yet to see Cavill show anything that would suggest he'd do just as well with the character as Evans. Then again, I've only seen him in his MoS/BvS roles.
Discotheque
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when da fuck did i say this? find the quote and i'll gladly eat the crow.
fall back. nothing about evans in the cap movies is more than serviceable. and that's a term i think perfectly applies to both cavill and evans. only the mcu fanboys see something special in his captain america performance. they're playing "aww shucks" characters with minimal effort behind it. i don't really buy them to be as endearing as say..tobey maguire or chris reeves were for instance.
In one of the trailer threads when people started talking about Gadot not having the ability to carry the movie.
Discotheque
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quote me then. or else put respeck on my name.
Lol no.
I'm not searching through your long post history just to prove a point.
Discotheque
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prolly because i didn't say they were worse than gadot lmao, make stuff up i guess. i really don't see me saying something like that as much as i find the two chris' the weakest actors of the marvel slate.
They have spent close to a quarter of a billion dollars proving that point
Discotheque
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has liam hemsworth ever really starred in a movie though? he's at the most co-leading
chris aint shit either but i at least give him props for landing a Michael Mann flick.
Primethius
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Yea, I don't really see that at all.
I guess the better way to put it my view on them is:
Evans doesn't bring down the movie with his level of acting. It's more or less in line with everyone else (aside from a few that dip below and a few above everyone else).
Cavil does hold the movie back. I don't know if it's the director or not but it's definitely a thing. In BvS, him and Gadot were huge black marks on the movie acting wise. Dude was acting like he was forced at gunpoint to be on set.
And the difference between those two levels of acting is definitely notable. I'm honestly not sure what you see in Cavil's acting in these two movies.
Discotheque
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not much. that was my point. i think both are pretty dull in these franchises outside of the amazing aesthetic they have.
Primethius
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Ah well, agree to disagree. I'd take Evans over Cavil anyday to play a superhero I like.
BKatastrophe
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Was Liam the leading on a movie about corporate sabotage? Or something regarding a tech invention? I can't recall the name, but I think it came out a couple of years ago
George Oscar Bluth II
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I like Evans as Cap. He isn't great or anything, but he really makes Cap for me.
Speaking of MCU actors, I'm glad we're getting Ruffalo as co-lead (I think) in Thor: Ragnarok because we need more of him since there won't be a solo Hulk movie.
Do you mean Blackhat? That's the Chris movie by Michael Mann
Hey Disco, I remember you saying that Snyder was a better director than anybody in the MCU. Too lazy to find it though
Discotheque
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Gross I never said that either. In fact I disliked snyder a lot prior to the man of Steel announcement. I'd never put him over Shane Black or Coogler. The rest...ehhh I think a case can be made. Both these studios ain't exactly finding the cream of the crop. I wasnt a big fan of Gunn outside of Super tbh so guardians surprised me.
People misconstruing my stuff. I said I think man of Steel and BvS >> a good number of marvel flicks that's about it. I appreciate what snyder is trying to do and his visual sensibilities but it's clear he is not a good storyteller here. Not even competent half the time. But he stumbles onto some good shit sporadically throughout his movies.
Hmm....not sure I can recall this. But then to be fair I've never sat through any of his movies except for the hunger games. All the power to him tho. Peace and love and all that. But I ain't got time for a Liam Hemsworth movie
People misconstruing my stuff. I said I think man of Steel and BvS >> a good number of marvel flicks that's about it. I appreciate what snyder is trying to do and his visual sensibilities but it's clear he is not a good storyteller here. Not even competent half the time. But he stumbles onto some good shit sporadically throughout his movies.
Hmm....not sure I can recall this. But then to be fair I've never sat through any of his movies except for the hunger games. All the power to him tho. Peace and love and all that. But I ain't got time for a Liam Hemsworth movie
Discotheque
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ill PayPal you tomorrow bro.
BKatastrophe
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Paranoia is what I was thinking of. 2013, so farther back than I thought. But it also has other heavy hitters, too.
NotoriousPUG
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Well, DC had a good run. Not really interested in Marvel 2.0
This.
I hate how people demand a sacrifice of the tone - that does set the DCU apart - while that's not the primary problem at all. Maybe MoS to BvS to whatever comes next is reactionary in terms of character development, "cleaning up the mess", but overall I like the idea of developing the characters through out the movie universe by directly ackownledging what came before. The MoS set-up for BvS was fantastic and a huge reason, why I didn't hate the latter.
As a side note: HBO's The Leftovers does the dark tone but with optimism/good at its heart brilliantly. I very much like this approach, look at a certain scenario.
That is easy to fix. Stop killing characters because they need to be in the movies. We aren't idiots. But I think the badly performing movies are more important for him to fix than a show that is doing great numbers.
The way people describe the DCEU you'd swear it was the Crow.
Aeternus Malum
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Serious love how every other post on the first two pages alternate between series and Martha shit
I stopped watching the CW DC stuff after Flash S1/Arrow S3. Who did they kill off?
Discotheque
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Amanda Waller and Deadshot. It's a blessing though because they were garbage on the show
Green Arrow sort of was Batman-lite in his comics form too.
To be fair that's kind of Green Arrow's thing, it fits.
In the beginning in and now. But his best run had him as the angry liberal of superheroes
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