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Germany machete attack: Syrian refugee kills one and injures others.
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That's right wing propaganda that hasn't been proven in any way and frankly it's disgusting behavior to repeat those statements, especially in your condescending tone.
YianGaruga
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The irony
Kill Your Masters
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Can you at least back your claims from your high horse? Stats, police reports etc.?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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We're still one of the richest and safest regions in the world, we're fine. Save your empathy for Syrians for instance that actually need it.
Called my brother since he moved near Stuttgart recently, thankfully that was another city.
FF Seraphim
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That's not a function of any democratically elected government whatsoever. It is the government of a country being kind, it is not obligated to do said kind acts.
Anyway, does Germany have an end plan on what they are planning to do with the refugees. Last I read they are still in those camps.
Got stats? Reputable articles and studies on instances of criminal behaviour and its correlation with refugees? Anything?
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Hopefully the injured come out okay.
Discussions on potentially controversial topics could be much more productive if everyone would take this principle to heart.
How about you start providing some hard numbers to back up your sweeping generalizations. It's either that or STFU.
For the record: there are problems with the refugee situation and we need to work hard on the solutions. Demonizing many thousands for the crimes of very few is not the way and actually counter-productive.
Salty Rice
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High horse?
Many from you maybe not live in germany but there are multiple cases where shit like that happens in local regions.
Lolkay. A government protecting its own citizens is also just being kind and not fulfilling any moral obligation
It was very noble/nice thing she did but unfortunately not workable in the real world and we're seeing it happen right before us. She's put the safety of her people at risk, and given the far right a boost.
She's a fantastic politician and I really admire her but this was a pretty boneheaded move I'm afraid.
He/she will claim that the stats are wrong, because the police are fudging them.
Source? Every single data we have shows that refugees and immigrants ( even illegal) commit crime far less than native population.
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Deleted member 10571
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That's a no then, yes? Well then.
I do live in Germany, Dresden to be specific.
I still want you to provide numbers or else just shut up.
I live in Germany yet i still haven't seen you providing any proof for your claims
I'm British.
I live in Germany and work with young refugees to help them adjust to life after war and destruction. Maybe you should do the same instead of spreading lies and propaganda from behind your computer screen.
As much as I'de love to take your word for it, i'de like some properely conducted studies which demonstrate that the inteoduction of refugees into germany has actually influnced the crime rate.
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If he had a history of violence already, I'm sorry but why is he still in the country? Should have been on the first flight back to where he came from.
There's probably a middle ground where you prioritise children and families. A solution where 6000 refugee children just disappear isn't that great of a solution either.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/12/almost-6000-refugee-children-missing-last-year-germany
Salz01
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I totally agree. This whole 'we need to help everybody' mentality needs to stop. Because you can never help everybody.
Were you trying to be smart with that? cause it didn't sound smart at all
ClosingADoor
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You can't deport people to war zones. But I agree that if he has a history of violence, he should not have been able to walk around freely in society.
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What? He was "known to the police", no one said anything about a "history of violence". Where does this come from?
i fucking live in germany so where are your stats ? reports ? youre just a right wing idiot or spouting whatever theyre saying either way youre an asshole
Always-honest
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A machete?...
Fucking hell.
So in this rare case the attacker is still alive. So hopefully we'll get information of what exactly happened that made this fucking idiot do this.
Fucking hell.
So in this rare case the attacker is still alive. So hopefully we'll get information of what exactly happened that made this fucking idiot do this.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Asylum seekers gets rejected constantly.
FF Seraphim
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Hmm I stand corrected.
But it is odd that only France seems to make it a constitutional right. Reading up on the EU laws it seems each country has something different. That just doesn't make sense to me.
Well that's the rule of law. People have rights. Even foreigners. The police can't jail a person without due process. Any person.
Kill Your Masters
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Links links links.
I live in Frankfurt. I walk past a refugee center each day. Dunno, those guys look friendly to me. Also haven't tried to grab my female friends between their legs so far.
He'll be prosecuted and charged in Germany where the crime happened. He won't be deported.
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Sorry, I misread. History with the police doesn't sound great though and I still question why he is allowed refuge or free movement, plenty of other people worthy of help that aren't "known" to law enforcement.
There was an interesting graphic on criminal involvement of refugees in Germany. That one showed Syrian refugees were less problematic (below average compared to other refugee groups; green country).
Source: http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...aus-diesen-Laendern-oft-kriminell-werden.html
Source: http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...aus-diesen-Laendern-oft-kriminell-werden.html
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He got into an argument with a woman near the bus station, then he hurt her with the machete. There's no indication of a terrorist background, if that's what you're implying, this seems to be a seperated case of a random loon.
Murder and rape by nationality, Germany 2014, according to official crime statistics
Would be way more useful if it had a source and a date. I reverse-searched that image, and, for instance, found a post on r/conspiracy claiming that the data is from 2005.
Always-honest
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I was not implying anything. I was just curious what made him do this.
What made him carry a machete in the first place.
Why were they fighting, etc.
There was an interesting graphic on criminal involvement of refugees in Germany. That one showed Syrian refugees were less problematic (below average compared to other refugee groups; green country).
Source: http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...aus-diesen-Laendern-oft-kriminell-werden.html
Yeah but that doesn't show us the crime rate based on the local population, it just says that syrians are less problematic than algerians for example.
Principate
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Yes it actually is, it's called the Geneva convention and human right, the parts pertaining to refugees, you should check them up sometime
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