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Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective |OT| Spoiler: The Main Character Dies
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rockman zx
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Wizpig said:
The plot of the demo is original but the characters, scenario, objects and things to do to complete goals, everything is from the full game
Crumpet Trumpet
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lol wait what happened again? also, you can replay chapters after you beat themJEKKI said:
well it was towards the end of the chapter, when you do it it leads you into the next one.Crumpet Trumpet said:
I had my save file up to that point and jus started playing again when I got home.
played for like a minute, restarted my system, played for another minute and a half, then decided to play the rest tomorrow =P
Crumpet Trumpet
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Ohhh haha I get it nowJEKKI said:
Just finished Chapter 7
I'll stick with my impression and my "Plot twist!" like theories on what happen which may or may not be to out there, since you all seem to want someone to post impressions for the first play though.
I still think the Detective is the Girls Father, and the Justice guy has to be the guy in green who looks a tad like Quercus Alba from AAI, which I will likely have to get him and his wife to make up in order to stop the execution. Also, lets start tossing some odd ideas off the wall. I am going to predict the main character told the girl to shoot him in order to do what he is doing now, solving the case, some how being informed of the ghosts tricks before hand. Also, the information on ghosts tricks and the such is what the blue guys are after.
Some other small predictions that will likely be totally wrong, the doctor isn't in with the bad guys despite being blue, the pidgin guy is also doing his own investigation on the paranormal independently, but his research will be needed at some point, the music box will have some sort of magic rock inside of it, and the fact the other two in the jail are trying to break out is coincidental.
Some other small predictions that will likely be totally wrong, the doctor isn't in with the bad guys despite being blue, the pidgin guy is also doing his own investigation on the paranormal independently, but his research will be needed at some point, the music box will have some sort of magic rock inside of it, and the fact the other two in the jail are trying to break out is coincidental.
I'll stick with my impression and my "Plot twist!" like theories on what happen which may or may not be to out there, since you all seem to want someone to post impressions for the first play though.
RocketDarkness
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Just spent all last night into the early morning powering through this game. So fantastic, and totally worth sleep deprivation. I'd have to say it's at least as good as the AA series. Kinda want to wait a bit before I dare say it's better, though.
Just noticed something. Probably just a problem with the english translation, but completely incoherent.
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So Sissel is a cat, he doesn't know how to read, he doesn't know what are bullets, etc. Yet he refers to the contraption that kills Lynne under the superintendant's office as a "Rube Goldberg Machine". I mean come on D:
Maybe the guy who did the localisation didn't know the whole plot beforehand or something.
Maybe the guy who did the localisation didn't know the whole plot beforehand or something.
Versipellis
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Just finished it. It's an awesome J-adventure game and I'm really glad I've bought it on day 1, instead of waiting for a price cut (like I usually do). This kind of games needs our support to remain alive.
The twisty plot is very good and engrossing.
The puzzles are a little on the easy side and reading the "suggestion balloons" feels almost like cheating. But how could you not read them: they are often funny and they help knowing the characters! But J-adventures are almost always plot-centered, thus I'm not too surprised or disappointed.
Missile ftw! I confess I didn't like him at first, but that changed fast!
I love the graphics and the animations: having no direct control over the characters gave the animators the opportunity to put a lot of effort on every single movement. Amazing.
The twisty plot is very good and engrossing.
The whole meteor thing is somewhat off, but not because it adds to the paranormal aspects; instead because it adds a sci-fi aspect to a ghost story. It kinda tries to explain a paranormal phenomenon with a parascientific explanation. It's just... odd.
The puzzles are a little on the easy side and reading the "suggestion balloons" feels almost like cheating. But how could you not read them: they are often funny and they help knowing the characters! But J-adventures are almost always plot-centered, thus I'm not too surprised or disappointed.
Missile ftw! I confess I didn't like him at first, but that changed fast!
I love the graphics and the animations: having no direct control over the characters gave the animators the opportunity to put a lot of effort on every single movement. Amazing.
The Technomancer
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I believe they're rotoscoped. That would explain the 3D look and the incredible fluidity.Mzo said:
Versipellis
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Versipellis
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Having played PW before, I had no problem thinking that you could skip (or FF) them and how to do so. But, yes, I can't say it's too intuitive.Volcynika said:
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Alright, still in chapter 7, but here are my wild theories. Don't spoil anything based on them, but some people should get enjoyment out of this.
The lamp is really Sissel from the future, come back in time to make sure everything goes according to plan. Sissel really cares about D99 for some reason, to the point that he's willing to ask Lynne to shoot him because Lamp Sissel connected with him psychically and told him that if he died tonight, he could save D99 by being a ghost.
Graphics Horse
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End Spoilers:
Had anyone else worked out
At least I think that's when I realised, it might have been earlier.
They're not, they're just hand animated 3D models like most CG movies have. I think they're rendered into 16 colour sprites before they get on to the DS. Obviously the nature of the game is more suited to this kind of animation than others, but it would work almost as well in a 2D fighter.
Had anyone else worked out
Sissel's true identity by the beginning of Chapter 15?
The_Technomancer said:
They're not, they're just hand animated 3D models like most CG movies have. I think they're rendered into 16 colour sprites before they get on to the DS. Obviously the nature of the game is more suited to this kind of animation than others, but it would work almost as well in a 2D fighter.
'Cause they said:zigg said:
http://www.destructoid.com/destructoid-interview-ghost-trick-s-shu-takumi-179528.phtml
Graphics Horse
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edit: thanks^
To be honest it's hard to tell, but I think if it was native DS 3D they'd have given them smoother edges courtesy of the hardware edge antialiasing of the DS.
The animation is very detailed though, and must involve a lot more bones than your standard DS game animations.
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They could have stored it as a different 3D model for each frame, which I think some DS games do, but using a non-lossy compressed animation format(similar to 16 colour gifs) might give it even less data to get through, and easier to port too
From the shots of the iPhone game it looks to be using upscaled sprites, possibly.
zigg said:
To be honest it's hard to tell, but I think if it was native DS 3D they'd have given them smoother edges courtesy of the hardware edge antialiasing of the DS.
The animation is very detailed though, and must involve a lot more bones than your standard DS game animations.
edit:
They could have stored it as a different 3D model for each frame, which I think some DS games do, but using a non-lossy compressed animation format(similar to 16 colour gifs) might give it even less data to get through, and easier to port too
From the shots of the iPhone game it looks to be using upscaled sprites, possibly.
Versipellis
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If you want to have an idea how would they look in hd, you should see the commercial for the game: the sprites are really smooth, with very simple textures on them (see missile's fur) and possibliy low-poly. I think those are the original models, which have been downscaled for the DS.Graphics Horse said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwH4ZRyN2B0
rockman zx
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Finished chapter 15, so good, the puzzles are beyond awesome now.
ShockingAlberto
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This just reminds me how great the style of the game is.Versipellis said:
It is incredibly unique.
Pureauthor
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Whenever they get a scene with someone eating chicken I end up feeling hungry. Just look at them scarf it down.
Versipellis
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Ramenman said:
A (poor) explanation of this could be that
Sissel heard the expression when Yomiel was planning to kill Anna with Kamila's contraption.
Ruzai said:
THOUGHS ABOUT SAID ANSWER ABOUT ENDING SPOILERS
I don't think the cat got killed by the fragment. I think it just wounded the poor creature. There are no deaths at the end of the story.
If the cat were dead, Sissel shouldn't be able to manipulate his body, since he can only manipulate objects (and there's no time for him to develop new powers like 10-years-after Yomiel and 10-y-a Missile did). The fragment went through Jowd's leg and hit the cat in the leg (hence the limp). The powers of the fragment are still in effect, though.
If the cat were dead, Sissel shouldn't be able to manipulate his body, since he can only manipulate objects (and there's no time for him to develop new powers like 10-years-after Yomiel and 10-y-a Missile did). The fragment went through Jowd's leg and hit the cat in the leg (hence the limp). The powers of the fragment are still in effect, though.
If there's a sequel, I hope they try and use the ability to get back in time to make Sissel collaborate with his "4 minutes before" self.
Like in chapter 1, when the guitar plays "on its own" because 4-m-b Sissel plays it
Versipellis
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Ceebs said:
That could be as well, but don't forget Missile got the same kind of powers when he died near the fragment in the park and when he died near Yomiel in the 10-years-after Missile scenario. I think the mutations are linked to the soul - or maybe to the kind of creature: humans get to manipulate living creatures, dogs can switch objects and cats can manipulate objects. Of course this is just speculation, since we don't have a canon to refer to.
On the other hand:
If the cat didn't die, then I don't know why he's still young, since the power of the meteor can return a body to 4 minutes before a death (thus giving immortality). But without a death in the beginning, that shouldn't apply.
Graphics Horse
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JEKKI said:
Yes, There is a
green hourglass sequence when you find his power mid game.
Zero-Crescent
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zigg said:
The fragment only grazed Jowd's leg, he even says so himself. It grazed past his leg and became lodged in Sissel, who was probably hiding in the nearby bushes.
