Yeah, the soundtrack and visual flair are undoubtedly its strongest points.
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Yeah, the soundtrack and visual flair are undoubtedly its strongest points.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I liked DR1, but apparently DR2 is much better.
It's on sale on PSN, which is why I got it.
Basileus777
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Lies, DR2 isn't as good as the first one.
Jex
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Oh god you weren't kidding. That was painful to watch, poor Drew.
DR1 has a stronger first half, DR2 a stronger second half, imo
ghost trick still the GOAT
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Might be on their twitch channel. I don't think they're archiving that portion of the stream.
On MGS2 ending:
Why does Solidus want to kill Raiden, and why does Raiden want to kill Solidus? After the truth about the patriots and the simulation is revealed, it seems they both have the same goal: stop the patriots and free the world. Raiden even says "I won't let you control me, I'll do what I want", and then proceeds to do exactly what the patriots want: eliminate their primary threat. Is it all because Solidus says that he killed Raiden's parents? Not sure if I get why Solidus wants to kill Raiden either, what does he gain?
Solidus believes that the nanomachines inside of Raiden contains data on the Patriots. He also wants to test Raiden and make him confront his past.
Raiden doesn't want to die because if he does Olga's child dies as well (and presumably Rose).
Raiden doesn't want to die because if he does Olga's child dies as well (and presumably Rose).
Since Solidus isn't privy to Raiden's nanocommunications, he doesn't know anything besides the fact that Raiden is the Patriot's lapdog.
randomlyrossy
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I cannot get this last part of Metal Gear Scanlon to play, dunno if it's my internet or what but it's infuriating.
Change the date in the file's link to the 23rd or watch it in anything but HD.
randomlyrossy
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Ah, cheers. That's worked.
SuperStiltzkin
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Why do people keep taking this line literally? I've heard Brad constantly quote this line to completely invalidate any value MGS2 has.
TheBaronOfNA
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Solidus is not a team player and is a huge asshole
It feels that his excuse for using child soldiers (and killing Raiden's parents) was because he was angsty about the Patriots and needed to prove a point
I don't see how Dan could play through that last boss fight and not think that Metal Gear Solid is hella anime until recently.
Well, devoid of context (and the context is easy to overlook in that massive infodump scene), it's very easy to take that thing at its word.
Basically.
Dude was created as a tool, and he wanted a way to ensure a legacy. Unfortunately he kind of lost track of Raiden after Liberia I guess? Careless
Willkiller
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Why isn't MGS 13 playing for me? Pls no
EmCeeGramr
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Solidus basically tries to kill Raiden for the same reason the Ganondorf tries to kill Link at the end of Wind Waker; he's a powerless old man and former ruler that the world has cast aside and all of his dreams to rebel against uncaring godlike forces and regain relevance and freedom have just failed at the last second and now he desperately thinks that he might be able to accomplish something if he takes out the young whippersnapper in front of him (who was manipulated into acting like a legendary hero and descending to the bottom of the ocean to murder said old man).
So on top of an old gray building he whips out his two swords and decides that he has nothing left.
So on top of an old gray building he whips out his two swords and decides that he has nothing left.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Why does luchadeer have 2 mouths?
You mean two tongues?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm so confused now!
Also oh hey rorie has the same mousing surface as me.
Also oh hey rorie has the same mousing surface as me.
Felix Lighter
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I know it hasn't been perfect, but Drew's play has not been too bad at all the last several episodes. The progress has been very consistent and rarely has he gotten stuck on a section for more than a 2-3 replays. I was expecting a series of deaths last episode based on the feedback but it wasn't nearly as bad as I had expected.
Incandenza
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Holiday holiday, Giant Bomb thread.
Merry Christmas, GB GAF!
edit: To be clear, I didn't make this, it's from last year(?) from a GB user!
Yeah must be from last year since 2/3 of that drawing is not at GB anymore.
Basileus777
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Fortune's voice acting is so poor. Every line seems off.
Felix Lighter
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Oh man, I haven't watched the ending to MGS2 since I've played MGS4. It changes Ocelot's moment so much.
A lot of the lines in this game seem oddly delivered, especially with the poor lip syncing.
The Rose and Jack convos being awful has to be intentional.
EmCeeGramr
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at least we haven't gotten to MGS3 levels of lip syncing awfulness
randomlyrossy
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I'm seriously considering either playing MGS2 myself or rewatching Sons of Drewberty to see how much that ending changes things.
Question about Rose:
Question about Rose:
Are we to assume that at least some of the codec stuff with Rose was the real person for a lot of the conversations? When Raiden meets her at the end they both refer to those conversations like they actually happened.
I actually checked out the original Japanese voice acting for this game, and Raiden's voice is much more deep and manly. I wonder if all the complaints people have with these characters were the result of poor VA direction from the localization.
I think Rose up to the point when she says she's pregnant to Raiden is real, as well as her appearing at the end as well. Everything else is just the Patriots fucking him with him
Felix Lighter
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Selection for Societal Sanity. Ha ha. Now that is Metal Gear.
I think so. It's the only way for it to make sense (insofar as sense goes)
EmCeeGramr
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Possibly. Solidus also had Snake's voice actor doing a slightly "older" voice so that the player (if they didn't already know about Solidus) would be genuinely confused, and there was also the infamous Liquid voice thing (in Japan, Ocelot kept his regular voice and players were supposed to realize it's Liquid's personality from the swaggering around and waving arms and "Brother" but apparently the localization team thought that that wasn't obvious enough for Americans so they straight up gave him Cam Clarke's voice).
IIRC the localization also probably suffered from a bit of a backlash after Jeremy Blaustein tried to soften up MGS1's localization to sound more natural in English. Kojima found out about it and thought that it went too far in changing the exact meaning of the writing, so Blaustein got the boot and MGS2 had a more direct Japanese-English translation, which is almost definitely why there are so many odd turns of phrase in the game. (NOT NERD, NODE)
Piston Hyundai
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Sorry to inform you all of this, but the only reason this thread exists is as an exercise of the S3: the Solid Scanlon Simulation.
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