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Giant Bomb #25 | A Fun Time with Friends
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the holder of the trombone
I'm good.
My current youtube feed is full of garbage overwatch youtube videos, so that's great.
My current youtube feed is full of garbage overwatch youtube videos, so that's great.
Stella would never stand for this.
Just got around to reading this. I totally know where he's coming from. The same sense made me drop TLOU the first time I checked it out on the PS3, even though I would eventually fall in love with the remaster:
I'm actually not sure I've seen anyone else express that sentiment, so it was pretty interesting to read Austin's typically clarifying take on it. No other game has had the same "dizzying" effect on me that TLOU did.
Started playing the game in English but I didn't like the VO and it's not the same as the movie so that was irritating. Changed to German which I actually liked more, but the lip syncing was atrocious. So I changed it to Japanese and never looked back.
I should try French for the giggles.
Austin pretty much explains what's bothering me with the games as well. Tey are very well crafted. Too much crafted, designed through and through. It's getting boring for me pretty quickly because you already know what to expect around the next corner. A beautiful facade and all that, but I only see design notes and gameplay triggers.
Death Metalist
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Ein Bear
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My main issue with Naughty Dog games is that, after striking a pretty good balance between gameplay and narrative in UC2, their games have become progressively more and more self-indulgent with their focus on story. Uncharted 4 is honestly one of the most poorly-paced videogames I've ever played.
Maiden Voyage
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So, I did this yesterday:
I can't believe I've spent 72 hours playing a Hitman game. I'm ready for season 2.
I can't believe I've spent 72 hours playing a Hitman game. I'm ready for season 2.
It has puzzles, jumping, some action, and cool cinematics!
That's what I heard today after trying to get some answers why someone likes it so much and why that person is so hyped about Last of Us 2 (despite not having even played the first one).
bigwinnerx
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Is Iron Galaxy involved in any capacity in the Windjammers thing or are they just taking the piss a little bit w/ handing out cards and going to the booth?
sammyCYBORG
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UC4 was the first Uncharted game that didn't give me combat fatigue.
I'm not saying it's the best (that's still 2 clearly) but the pacing was fine.
How was it poorly paced? I'd argue the increased focus on the exploration and narrative work well. The combat scenes felt more like set-pieces.
I didn't get combat fatigue either, but I think the pacing was still off in UC4. The only ND game I think has excellent pacing is TLoU.
Zeouterlimits
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Yeah, for me it was the opposite. I would tire of so many encounters in the earlier series.
For me 4 struck a far better balance.
Uncharted 4 was definitely the most pleasant to play of all Uncharted games, in my experience.
2 strikes a great balance between all parts of the game, but I enjoyed the slightly more "peaceful" feeling from 4.
If we're talking ND in general, The Last of Us is my favorite one to play.
2 strikes a great balance between all parts of the game, but I enjoyed the slightly more "peaceful" feeling from 4.
If we're talking ND in general, The Last of Us is my favorite one to play.
Ein Bear
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I wouldn't say that the game needed more combat exactly, but I just felt like they didn't give you enough stuff to actually do as a player.
For instance, the sequence in the jeep is probably the most open the game gets, but that still doesn't feel like 'exploration' to me. There's only really one place that the game wants you to arrive at, and the only 'gameplay' to be had is driving from point A to point B whilst Nate and co have a chat. Occasionally you'll be interrupted by having to winch the car or something, which is just a case of getting out and hitting square next to a tree, and only seems to be there to further slow everything down and give the characters more time to talk.
I just feel that you ultimately aren't interacting with the game as a player very much at all, and are instead constantly forced to just listen to the story they want to tell you.
Human Trashcan
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I really think it's the opposite. It was perfectly paced until the endgame, when it became a mush of incresingly stilted combat encounters (the tunnels section was awful).
sammyCYBORG
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It can feel slightly tedious the 20th time you're waiting for an AI routine to complete, but in general going back and experimenting is my favourite thing.
I did just did the Sapienza sniper challenge the other day. It didn't say do it all in your suit, but I did anyway, just to add extra complexity for added fun.
Find what you like about the game and focus on that. I don't find following the opportunities very fun, I like being given a specific challenge then figuring out how to do that.
that's the one thing i'm scared about and why i haven't gotten hitman yet. That and I'm shit at stealth
BreezyLimbo
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Makes sense why he liked Fallout 4 so much
I think my problem is more like : I already know the map the second time around so i'm just running around trying to find set pieces, instead of discovering and taking whatever I stumble upon. It feels like i'm just trying to get shit done instead of playing
that's especially true since you can't just do whatever you want, if you want to unlock stuff you need to do challenges and those revolve around you finding the right thing and using it.Finding a nice knife and throwing it won't cut it (get it?), even if that's what I want to do
sammyCYBORG
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I do think that weapons and equipment shouldn't be locked off. It should all be free to use from the start.
So tired of progressions and unlock systems in most games to be honest. Maybe it's because I'm old.
So tired of progressions and unlock systems in most games to be honest. Maybe it's because I'm old.
BreezyLimbo
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I like progression systems.
I hate it when I would use cheat codes to unlock everything(ie gta games) and infinite money because then I would just become bored with the game.
I hate it when I would use cheat codes to unlock everything(ie gta games) and infinite money because then I would just become bored with the game.
stump sock
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I guarantee Brad is worse and he gets paid to play it.
You don't need to be "good at stealth" in hitman. With the one exeption being suit only runs (and you only do those when you know the maps well).
Almost everything has multiple elegant solutions where you can hide in plain sight. If you are seen, it's very forgiving in letting you run away.
sammyCYBORG
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For me the goal of hitman isn't filling bars and unlocking stuff though. It's experimenting and finding new methods, which is limited until things are unlocked.
sammyCYBORG
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My problems with unlocks and progressions in a lot of games is... who has the time?
I like to sit down and experience a game start to finish and then shelve it these days. A select few I keep playing, like 4-5 a year.
When each game has a different unlock system, progression system, etc etc it just feels like a chore and a game saying "you know you aren't going to get the full experience here unless you invest 30 more hours than you want to into me".
In some games they're great systems and needed, but in most they're tacked on to increase longevity and appear more complex than they are.
I like to sit down and experience a game start to finish and then shelve it these days. A select few I keep playing, like 4-5 a year.
When each game has a different unlock system, progression system, etc etc it just feels like a chore and a game saying "you know you aren't going to get the full experience here unless you invest 30 more hours than you want to into me".
In some games they're great systems and needed, but in most they're tacked on to increase longevity and appear more complex than they are.
Maiden Voyage
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I felt the same until I replayed Hokkaido with the ninja suit, only killing the targets, not being spotted, destroying evidence, etc. That clicked something in my brain that caused me to become enamored by the game.
I just finished FFXV and it's good, but it has issues. The structure is just baffling and you can tell this was frankeinsteined over the years. The game also needed a proper prologue to introduce you to a lot of the stuff in the world, but Square had to do their shitty movie and anime I guess. It's also easy for combat to become irrelevant if you are just a couple levels above the quest.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Isnt that the way youre supposed to use youtube?
Human Trashcan
Banned
I feel like combat is always either irrelevant or super frustrating. The other day I had a dropship above me drop like a dozen guys or more, they were all shooting at me, no way to avoid the shots while still taking them out. It's totally braindead. Either I don't understand how to play this game or it's just bad.
Maiden Voyage
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When does the embargo lift?
Four minutes.
Sleeping Lesson
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I feel like The Last Guardian is one of those games that I have to play whether it's good or not.
Also, from what I can find the PS4 Pro stuff for the game is pretty minimal. Maybe we'll learn more with these reviews.
Also, from what I can find the PS4 Pro stuff for the game is pretty minimal. Maybe we'll learn more with these reviews.
sammyCYBORG
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We've already had a mod say that 15fps is acceptable and fine for games to run at to try and excuse the reports of the framerate being wonky, doubt we'll top that for craziness.
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