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Giant Bomb #6 | You'd be hard pressed to find 10 better threads this year.

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Archaix

Drunky McMurder
chubigans said:
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hahahah
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Tell me that's real. I'm going to have to watch a 70 minute Forza video now, aren't I? There's no way that's real. They look like the sort of stock photos that you'd find in an Inappropriate Office Conduct powerpoint presentation.
 
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Chance Hale

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razgriz417 said:
Jeff saying in the livestream that NFS Xbone version looks rough
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Weird because the digital foundry comparison said they were almost exactly the same outside of better depth of field/blur stuff on the PS4 although yet again it was another comparison with preview code.

Think Forza 5 looks great but some of that F2P nonsense does the game a disservice. Doesn't really seem to affect many things in comparison to previous games but just having it does kind of poison it a tad. Although the opening but with the daily login bonuses wasn't really a good example, GT5 had similar things. Getting you to play daily had been a thing for a while.
 
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LCfiner

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Keyser Soze said:
Hey, It's the Vita TV

Quick Look: Watching TV With Xbox One
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watching TV. yeah, voice control is janky and unreliable as shit. Having to say “xbox pause” three times in a row before it works. who needs that?

not surprised. I still have problems with Siri all the time. Only Google seems to have voice dictation and parsing worked out.

Also, looking at the xbox one guide, it kinda sucks that it covers the entire TV image. My old cable box would put the current channel display in a corner so i wouldn’t be completely blind to what’s playing when browsing the menu. The xbox one UI covers and dims absolutely everything on screen. seems like a major step back that would be unwelcome by lots of people.

edit: and when snapped, the TV show framerate noticeably drops. maybe to 10 to 20 fps…


Did other reviewers have anything even close to this experience and not call the feature a half baked piece of crap? I shouldn’t be surprised but, yeah, nothing about this seems like it’s worth the price of admission.
 
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Chuck

Still without luck
Revengineer said:
On the other hand - he's also just reminding everyone that EA has been selling cheat codes for a long, long time.
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And EA is a disgusting company that aggressively hates its customers.

So, not exactly a great point to bring up when defending Forza's pay to not grind crap.
 
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Revengineer

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Chuck said:
And EA is a disgusting company that aggressively hates its customers.

So, not exactly a great point to bring up when defending Forza's pay to not grind crap.
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Hey, no argument here. I don't think there should be a single goddamn option to pay for more things in these $60 games except DLC that is additional content, not shortcuts.

Cheats, experience, and "gold" should NOT be buyable with real money in a full price title. Shame on MS.
 
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popo

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LCfiner said:
Vinny said he liked to drive his Prius in these driving games. I remember a friend and I were playing Forza 4 and he insisted on a one-on-one Prius race on the full circuit Nurburgring. that was a very long, and eerily silent race.
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'cause he owns a Prius. When you have a kid and move to the 'burbs they castrate you and issue you with a hybrid.

Archaix said:
Tell me that's real. I'm going to have to watch a 70 minute Forza video now, aren't I? There's no way that's real. They look like the sort of stock photos that you'd find in an Inappropriate Office Conduct powerpoint presentation.
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Just skip to an hour in - that is when they get to the funny stuff.

The twins are here

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Alex?

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What ever!

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Victoria Belmont?

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Me and my shadow

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No!

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I said Never!

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I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob

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JesseEwiak

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Revengineer said:
Hey, no argument here. I don't think there should be a single goddamn option to pay for more things in these $60 games except DLC that is additional content, not shortcuts.

Cheats, experience, and "gold" should NOT be buyable with real money in a full price title. Shame on MS.
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Why do you want to get in front of my voluntary exchange of goods for a service I deem to be a good value?
 
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Chuck

Still without luck
Revengineer said:
Hey, no argument here. I don't think there should be a single goddamn option to pay for more things in these $60 games except DLC that is additional content, not shortcuts.

Cheats, experience, and "gold" should NOT be buyable with real money in a full price title. Shame on MS.
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I guess we can hope for consumer fight back and Sony hopefully not doing this to force them to drop it.
 
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JesseEwiak

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alr1ght said:
Game design and balance are inherently compromised once microtransactions are introduced. There's no way around it.
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In your opinion. If the market shows that people prefer microtransactions to actually playing a game, it means that the correct way to make a game, as long as we're making it within a capitalist framework, is to include microtransactions. Balance is something you worry about when you don't have to worry about profits.
 
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Revengineer

Unconfirmed Member
JesseEwiak said:
In your opinion. If the market shows that people prefer microtransactions to actually playing a game, it means that the correct way to make a game, as long as we're making it within a capitalist framework, is to include microtransactions. Balance is something you worry about when you don't have to worry about profits.
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The market doesn't show a damn thing except that there are a small selection of people who will pay more money on top of the entry fee and that's good enough for the bottom fucking line.
 
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brianmcdoogle

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JesseEwiak said:
In your opinion. If the market shows that people prefer microtransactions to actually playing a game, it means that the correct way to make a game, as long as we're making it within a capitalist framework, is to include microtransactions. Balance is something you worry about when you don't have to worry about profits.
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The way you are defending this is like the way a telemarketer defends their job. "It's all I can do", "We (telemarketers) wouldn't do it if it didn't work", "Some people actually buy our stuff so it must be a benefit to some", and so on. It honestly sounds like you work or design F2P games and are justifying its existence for your own reasons. Whatever the reason, using terminology like "capitalistic framework" doesn't help your cause, because it is not only nonsensical, but it directs your argument to basically be "Well then, Justin Beiber must be one of the most talented artists around because of how people prefer him to others in the capitalistic framework that is the music industry".

Popularity isn't always correct; in fact it rarely is.
 
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JesseEwiak

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Revengineer said:
The market doesn't show a damn thing except that there are a small selection of people who will pay more money on top of the entry fee and that's good enough for the bottom fucking line.
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Exactly. You're buying a product. Products are about the bottom line, not artistic expressions. You want artistic expressions, buy Gone Home or The Stanley Parable.

Whatever the reason, using terminology like "capitalistic framework" doesn't help your cause, because it is not only nonsensical, but it directs your argument to basically be "Well then, Justin Beiber must be one of the most talented artists around because of how people prefer him to others in the capitalistic framework that is the music industry".

Popularity isn't always correct; in fact it rarely is.
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Going purely by the market, Justin Beiber is one of the most successful artists in history. Justin Beiber is a product to be sold and consumed, just like Forza 5 or any other big budget video game.
 
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