MassiveNights
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Except two other staff members apart from Jeff and Brad have already named it as their #1 of the year and another named it #5.
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Giant Bomb GoTY 2016- Agent 47, take out that Doom Marine
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Except two other staff members apart from Jeff and Brad have already named it as their #1 of the year and another named it #5.
They have a best style, best looking and best art category right?
Seems pointless to me.
Don't think best art has been a category before, could be wrong.
MassiveNights
Banned
I thought Brad said something about another category during today's pod, must have heard wrong.
Bornstellar
Member
I finished the single layer campaign four hours ago. Will probably never touch multiplayer.
Why.
HamPster PamPster
Member
Final Fantasy XV deserved to put up a bigger fight in 'Best Looking' because the food looks so damn good! The food looks so good it makes the rest of the game feel worse. Just thinking about a version of the game where the story and sidequests got the same love, care, and attention that grilled fish got makes me depressed.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Doom is a lot of good things but one of the
it is not.
3 best looking games this year
Mister Negative
Member
At this point, I feel like best Styyyyyyyyyyyyle has evolved past just visual style and encompasses both gameplay and art, as it honestly should. It's a more interesting category that way, and really lets games like SUPERHOT and Hyper Light Drifter shine.
misses bull
Banned
Best Looking:Uncharted is a given, but Inside and DOOM for best looking are both poor choices.
I legit can't see how inside is a poor choice for best looking. Every single frame in that game looks great
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
jeff's argument against battlefield one in best graphics being "the tanks look dumb" made me laugh pretty hard
Best Looking:Uncharted is a given, but Inside and DOOM for best looking are both poor choices.
Tech wise, Doom is probably the most competent made game? Runs at 4k 60fps and looks completely stellar at its speed
Doom is a lot of good things but one of theit is not.3 best looking games this year
I was sometimes caught up by the look of the lab, and how "lush" (for lack of a better word) the world looked, especially when I replayed it on PC last week... but in terms of
best looking
I legit can't see how inside is a poor choice for best looking. Every single frame in that game looks great
and the animations are incredible. It really needs to be played to get it I think
Diprosalic
Banned
Best Looking:Uncharted is a given, but Inside and DOOM for best looking are both poor choices.
i thought
Uncharted .
Time to officially rename these The Jeffies.
they always have been The Jeffies.
Twin Tails
Member
I do agree that there is a much better game there and Beth's story was definitely interesting. The logs that you find kinda of tell a crazy story about Beth as well.Whelp...Alex officially made me want to play Quantum Break during the Best Character discussion.
She was actually going to be a playable character along side the other dude.
For me the look and graphics was pretty much the only thing going for Uncharted 4 so it was a given
Year of the hookshot, though...
I love Doom and it's my favorite of the year but Abzu or Battlefield 1 should have taken it's spot. Uncharted 4 and Inside are very solid choices though.
Just watch videos of Beth's stuff. The game is awful, just boring both in it's story and it's gameplay all the way through.
Whelp...Alex officially made me want to play Quantum Break during the Best Character discussion.
Just watch videos of Beth's stuff. The game is awful, just boring both in it's story and it's gameplay all the way through.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Tech wise, Doom is probably the most competent made game? Runs at 4k 60fps and looks completely stellar at its speed
Anything can run at 4K 60. I don't think optimization should be a factor in Best Looking.
The Lab looks nice, but it's that same sort of Valve/Source Engine art style that I don't think is interesting anymore. Heck, Titanfall is better looking Source game I think!I was sometimes caught up by the look of the lab, and how "lush" (for lack of a better word) the world looked, especially when I replayed it on PC last week... but in terms of, it can sometimes be hard to argue for it in that way since it can be a little lacking in anything beyond the orange/brown lab and orange/brown Hell. But the game is a damn fine looker in those two scenarios!best looking
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
FFXV should win biggest disappointment. Nothing in the game's fun, the story makes no sense and it's been in development for a decade. It's the game that people like to pretend FFXIII is. FFXIII actually worked in one area. I can't see how anybody can argue the mechanics of SFV or XCOM 2 are lacklustre without bringing up that utter "Hold x to win then enjoy 5 minutes of boring automated car rides/loading screens" shitshow.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Best Looking.... does The Division seriously not come up here?
Ah good call, definitely an oversight. Really spectacular weather effects unlike any I've seen in a game before.
Ah good call, definitely an oversight. Really spectacular weather effects unlike any I've seen in a game before.
Even if it doesn't win it deserves to be part of the conversation, say what you will about how it plays that game looks fantastic through and through.
Agreed. It is more evolutionary vs revolutionary, I think the best comparison I can come up with Gears 4. Gears was incredibly popular last gen but it was very much a time and place thing. Gears 4 is polished, same great gameplay yet the whole package feels somehow lesser than the individual parts. DOOM also was very much a time and place game. Yet, id somehow managed to make it fun and relevant today. They really deserve more praise for that.
It's definitely not revolutionary, but I'm not sure how that's even relevant to the discussion. Did someone claim that it was revolutionary somewhere in the proceedings? I think you're absolutely correct that evolutionary is the best term to describe it, but I completely disagree with Gears 4 as a similar comparison.
Gears 4 came out 3 years after Judgement and added almost nothing to the formula aside from improved image quality and an excellent PC port. There's nothing evolutionary about it, it's the same game formula written against the most current graphics APIs. It's the safest sequel you could possibly design for an aging franchise. It's a great game, and I'm not denying that in the slightest, but it doesn't take any chances and therefore doesn't step out of the shadow of its formula/history in any meaningful way.
Doom 2016, on the other hand, came out 12 years after Doom 3, and it's vastly different from its predecessor in almost every way. It throws the formula of the previous game away completely and builds a new one that somehow manages to tap into the core of the genre-defining 2D Doom games of the 90s while also incorporating modern FPS design, and it even manages to go a step further by introducing innovative FPS gameplay mechanics in the form of the glory kill / forced aggression system. There's absolutely nothing safe about it, it goes in the opposite direction from the majority of popular/successful FPS games of the past half-decade, and the fact that it takes that leap and manages to stick the landing is an incredible achievement for id software and the Doom franchise in general.
Maybe it's impossible to see/feel the significance of Doom 2016 in the modern FPS scene without having lived/played though the history of the past 25 years of FPS gaming. It may be that those of us who think it's so amazing are just coming from a different cultural perspective, and if you grew up learning FPS gaming from COD / counter-strike then Doom 2016 might just seem like a high quality game that builds on some older arena shooter mechanics but doesn't do anything especially significant or exciting; those are both perfectly valid and equivalent reference points. All I can really do is express my own opinion for why I think it's an achievement worthy of GOTY in 2016, and that opinion is based on my reasoning that it is indeed evolutionary, but in a market in which very few games (especially in the FPS genre) truly are.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
How is it that none of them have done the Helmut Kruger opportunity on the Tokyo level when Helmut Kruger has become such a huge thing to them.
It starts with a guy extremely excited about his plastic surgury to look like Kruger, and after you steal his outfit, you go to the plastic surgeon for unwraping your face bandages, where the surgeon is so overcome by emotion at the beauty of his work that he has to hold back his tears as he tells you he needs to take a moment alone to process it.
It's a perfect moment that wraps up how silly and great the Helmut Kruger character is, even after him being potentially killed 6 missions earlier.
It starts with a guy extremely excited about his plastic surgury to look like Kruger, and after you steal his outfit, you go to the plastic surgeon for unwraping your face bandages, where the surgeon is so overcome by emotion at the beauty of his work that he has to hold back his tears as he tells you he needs to take a moment alone to process it.
It's a perfect moment that wraps up how silly and great the Helmut Kruger character is, even after him being potentially killed 6 missions earlier.
I'm a little behind so I just listened to the day one. Man they destroyed Palmer Luckey. It was glorious listening to them tear that guy a new asshole. Also seems like Doom is going to take this thing. They were already trying to shove it into categories it had no business being in.
Spoilers for Best Looking:
I think the final list is actually really good. Inside is one of the best looking games of all time, at least in my opinion, and it has the technical chops to back up the artistic vision. I'm so glad that they gave it this award.
Uncharted 4 is a technical marvel—one of the most impressive ever created. You can quibble with the art design, and while I personally like it, I see why others might not. Doom has an interesting and somewhat unique visual language and sense of style, and while it wouldn't be in my top 3, I get that pick.
I think what the discussion for Best Looking demonstrates, above all else, is that Giant Bomb needs to split this category back out into art design and technical proficiency.
Uncharted 4 is a technical marvel—one of the most impressive ever created. You can quibble with the art design, and while I personally like it, I see why others might not. Doom has an interesting and somewhat unique visual language and sense of style, and while it wouldn't be in my top 3, I get that pick.
I think what the discussion for Best Looking demonstrates, above all else, is that Giant Bomb needs to split this category back out into art design and technical proficiency.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Oh god
I love Alex for going in on Luckey. The rest definitely seemed like they would rather just move on, but Im glad Alex kept at it. Nothing but respect for the secret best duder.
Vinny's Hitman run... Good lord, I nearly fainted from the laughter when he buried the axe in front of the crowd. What. A. Surprise.
I love Alex for going in on Luckey. The rest definitely seemed like they would rather just move on, but Im glad Alex kept at it. Nothing but respect for the secret best duder.
Vinny's Hitman run... Good lord, I nearly fainted from the laughter when he buried the axe in front of the crowd. What. A. Surprise.
travisbickle
Member
Oh god
I love Alex for going in on Luckey. The rest definitely seemed like they would rather just move on, but Im glad Alex kept at it. Nothing but respect for the secret best duder.
Vinny's Hitman run... Good lord, I nearly fainted from the laughter when he buried the axe in front of the crowd. What. A. Surprise.
Where is this?
Where is this?
Holiday Specialtacular 2016: Hitsmas
Moment he is talking about is around 1:25:00. Though I'd recommend watching the whole thing.
Anything can run at 4K 60. I don't think optimization should be a factor in Best Looking.
The Lab looks nice, but it's that same sort of Valve/Source Engine art style that I don't think is interesting anymore. Heck, Titanfall is better looking Source game I think!
That's a good point. It's maybe more the art direction and style of the lab sections that is appealing to me, alpha effects and all, than being better looking than most. Titanfall does have some absolutely incredible vistas and landscapes. I haven't gotten around to playing Battlefield 1 personally, but based on videos, that seems like it would handily win Best Looking unless you go beyond the pretty graphics side of things (I haven't listened to today's stuff yet).
Ha man I was tense listening to the Best Visuals category, nice to see
took the win on that one. For me it's not even a question with that one, and I thought the arguments in support of it were irrefutable. Was surprised at how cold Jeff was to it, it really is the most visually stunning and enthralling game I've ever played.
Also after finishing Superhot yesterday, I wholeheartedly agree with its win for Best Style.
.....Inside
Also after finishing Superhot yesterday, I wholeheartedly agree with its win for Best Style.
opticalmace
Member
Make that 3/4 categories spoiled for me today.
Fool me three times, fuck the peace sign.
Edit: thanks for editing for others.
The only safe move is to not read until you've finished watching/listening.
FFXV should win biggest disappointment. Nothing in the game's fun, the story makes no sense and it's been in development for a decade. It's the game that people like to pretend FFXIII is. FFXIII actually worked in one area. I can't see how anybody can argue the mechanics of SFV or XCOM 2 are lacklustre without bringing up that utter "Hold x to win then enjoy 5 minutes of boring automated car rides/loading screens" shitshow.
I dont think any of them even played much FFXV nor do I think anyone in that room expected it to be a good game.
Make that 3/4 categories spoiled for me today.
Fool me three times, fuck the peace sign.
Edit: thanks for editing for others.
It's all about the journey!
And the shoutouts.
It's all about the journey!And the shoutouts.
Journey is less interesting when you know where it ends up.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Drew saying mass effect when they asked about the elevator game is the low key best moment so far.
Alex is on fire during these podcasts, i love the guy.
What is Dan doing though? Goes out swinging like a madman the first 5 minutes of each category then he realises he is not going to have it his way and gets all grumpy for the rest of the category?
I don't think Dan has the necessary knowledge and intelligence to debate over anything or anyone. Especially not against Alex.