Giant Bomb GoTY 2016- Agent 47, take out that Doom Marine

Exterminieren said:
I see your case, but you could just as easily make an argument that it's the most exciting, creative game in years. That's the beauty of it!
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If by creative you mean how creative you had to be to find and follow good level creators then yes I agree.

Big Boss was robbed twice. Once of outer heaven, once of goty.

edit: I don't actually feel this strongly at all btw but someone needs to be the yin to oti's yang goddammit.
 
Zornack said:
If by creative you mean how creative you had to be to find and follow good level creators then yes I agree.

Big Boss was robbed twice. Once of outer heaven, once of goty.

I don't actually feel this strongly at all btw but someone needs to be the yin to oti's yang goddammit.
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If you can find your way to GAF you can find your way to great Mario Maker levels.

MGSV doesn't deserve top spot and even Dan realised that. DAN! MGS is to Dan what DOOM is to Brad.

I love you too.
 
Zornack said:
If by creative you mean how creative you had to be to find and follow good level creators then yes I agree.

Big Boss was robbed twice. Once of outer heaven, once of goty.

edit: I don't actually feel this strongly at all btw but someone needs to be the yin to oti's yang goddammit.
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Did MGSV get most disappointing GotY? Big Boss got robbed of that.
I still would have had it number 3 behind Witcher 3 and Mario Maker for GotY
 
The Illiterati said:
I'm fine with DOOM winning GOTY. I enjoyed it, but it wouldn't be my choice. But I wish that every one of these podcasts didn't have at least an hour of DOOM raving.

Day 4 category: Best Game that isn't DOOM

Spoiler:
Brad: I actually think you can make a case that it's DOOM here.
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Lmao

I'm guessing Inside will get higher than people might expect. (false edit: oh, someone already guessed 2...)

Diancecht said:
I don't know about Doom being the GOTY. I always look at games as complete packages and when I look at Doom, I see a fantastic single player coupled with average multiplayer and that alone makes me not want to see it on the top of the list. That's the reason I put Blood&Wine and Thumper on top of my list because they both are complete packages.

Doom is fantastic but I don't think it is THE best game of the year. It is definitely the best single player campaign.
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I can agree with this. Even though I had more fun with Doom this year, I put it as number 2 on my GAF votes ballot, behind Titanfall 2. I didn't think the multiplayer was even all that bad, but there was just another game that everything it set out to do, it crushed it in my opinion.
 
I don't know about Doom being the GOTY. I always look at games as complete packages and when I look at Doom, I see a fantastic single player coupled with average multiplayer and that alone makes me not want to see it on the top of the list. That's the reason I put Blood&Wine and Thumper on top of my list because they both are complete packages.

Doom is fantastic but I don't think it is THE best game of the year. It is definitely the best single player campaign.
 
Was sort of bummed that Final Fantasy XV didn't come up during the licensed music section. I finally started playing it a couple days ago and I completely forgot they did a new version of "Stand By Me" for that game. I cringed when it started playing in the intro.
 
The thing about Doom winning GOTY isn't that it's a bad game, just it's a safe, boring choice. We want the debates, the rage, the frustration, the bargaining. It'll just be "Ok, Doom is number 1 right? what is number 2?" and nobody will fight as hard or as dirty for number 2. Mario Maker last year was fantastic because it was really mainly Dan and Jeff fighting hardest for it and Brad didn't like it one bit and it was great!

GB GOTY is at its est when someone has to go super saiyan and give a big ass speech about why their game is great. Like Austin did for Invisible Inc, like Alex did just this year for the unmaking of Palmer Luckey. Like Jeff and Dan did for Mario Maker. I just feel we won't get that for the GOTY this year and the discussion for 2 and 3 won't be as heated.
 
Zomba13 said:
The thing about Doom winning GOTY isn't that it's a bad game, just it's a safe, boring choice. We want the debates, the rage, the frustration, the bargaining. It'll just be "Ok, Doom is number 1 right? what is number 2?" and nobody will fight as hard or as dirty for number 2. Mario Maker last year was fantastic because it was really mainly Dan and Jeff fighting hardest for it and Brad didn't like it one bit and it was great!

GB GOTY is at its est when someone has to go super saiyan and give a big ass speech about why their game is great. Like Austin did for Invisible Inc, like Alex did just this year for the unmaking of Palmer Luckey. Like Jeff and Dan did for Mario Maker. I just feel we won't get that for the GOTY this year and the discussion for 2 and 3 won't be as heated.
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Right

I hope Alex goes super saiyan for Overwatch. It seems like each day he has been working on his arguments more and more. I can feel it
 
MetroidPrimeRib said:
Shadow of fucking Mordor
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Reading all of the stuff from back then where every outlet and writer was going on about how Mordor was the first true next gen game and how stuff like the Nemesis system was the next big thing is like reading magazine articles from the 50s about how computers in the future will probably be twice as large to power our rocket ships
 
FStop7 said:
I'm going to make an F2P game where you go out on fetch quests to retrieve rare guns from locations such as abandoned towns in the old west, sunken pirate ships, forgotten battlefields, etc. You're given the assignment to seek out 3 of a certain type of gun on each of these levels. In order to "unearth" the guns you click as fast as you can on the spot where you're digging and the faster you click the more dirt is cleared away, which is represented by a series of increasing numbers. You can also buy a click accelerator with real money that lets you clear dirt away twice as fast or you can use real money to buy the guns you need to fulfill each quest. Once you complete a quest you receive a gun as a reward, and you can use real money to upgrade that gun from common to "elite" status or you can break the gun down into a number of click accelerators based on the value of that particular gun. Oh and it will have early 3D era graphics.

I'll call it GunClicker: Prophet of DOOM.

See you all at 2017's GOTY awards.
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Be careful cuz that sounds like a successful game.
 
Zero315 said:
The only issue that I have with them bringing it up is that Brad is still leading people to believe that losing stuff between chapters is some sort of hinderance and ruins the game. Makes me wonder if he even went past the first chapter, because that's how I thought until I pushed forward and realized that 90% of the stuff they take away is meaningless in the next chapter.
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Yeah! I was definitely miffed about it going into the second chapter, but by the end I had really warmed up on it. And then the last chapter put me on my ass and I knew it was a Correct and Perfect design.

That game kind of buried the lede I think. It goes in such a cool direction but it doesn't demand your respect right away, so I understand if people gave up before it got there.
 
Alex has spent all week sharpening his knives. They're coming out for Doom, and it's going to be joyous.

My heart still belongs to Hitman, but I'm almost at the point where I'm hoping a good Overwatch argument puts that at the top. It'd be more exciting that the week-long Doom coronation it looks like we're having.
 
How is DOOM the safe choice? lol

People thought that game was going to flop, and that became even more clear(in their mind, myself included)when Bethesda didn't send out review copies.

The SAFE bets are shit like Naughty Dog games, Rockstar games, COD, and Blizzard games.
 
IcyRhythms said:
How is DOOM the safe choice? lol

People thought that game was going to flop, and that became even more clear(in their mind, myself included)when Bethesda didn't send out review copies.

The SAFE bets are shit like Naughty Dog games, Rockstar games, COD, and Blizzard games.
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I think they mean safe in that it's the boring choice because they're treating GOTY deliberations like a spectator sport and want to see blood.

Whereas I am in the right because I am treating it like a spectator sport and am happy to see my team winning. Go DOOM!
 
IcyRhythms said:
How is DOOM the safe choice? lol

People thought that game was going to flop, and that became even more clear(in their mind, myself included)when Bethesda didn't send out review copies.

The SAFE bets are shit like Naughty Dog games, Rockstar games, COD, and Blizzard games.
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The very second Brad held court on the Bombcast about Doom back in May, it's been the red-hot favourite for this. It looked like Hitman was getting some momentum, but Brad's list today killed all of that.
 
TheXbox said:
I can't vibe with the Best New Character category. Way, way too wishy washy, and I'm not ever sure why Trico or that Witcher 3 guy were even considered.

edit: because TLG should be past the cutoff and HoS came out last year
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Vinny totally picked the wrong Witcher guy(Gaunter O'Dimm should have been the correct Hearts of Stone character choice), but regardless both came from a 2015 expansion...he should have won last year though. Best villain pretty much ever.

Trico deserves a spot and I haven't even finished TLG yet. Kind of glad Alex fought that battle for it.
 
I would liked to see
Hitman win but I admit I was among those who shit talked Doom before it released, fully believing it was going to suck and ultimately being shocked by the positive reaction.

On the other hand, I'm getting bored of hearing them talk about how fucking mind blowing Doom is.
 
Brakke said:
Ehh his whole "it's a scam to frustrate you into spending money" doesn't really track either. The way cards come out of chests and your crown towers level makes it real hard to pay to win. You can easily get into the second-to-top arena without spending a dime. You can get into legendary arena without spending a dime if you catch some luck.
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I don't think it's a scam, but that doesn't mean there isn't a point where progress points you more towards micro transactions than in game progress. I don't think that's a scam, but that also doesn't mean it can't be frustrating
 
Brandon F said:
Vinny totally picked the wrong Witcher guy(Gaunter O'Dimm should have been the correct Hearts of Stone character choice), but regardless both came from a 2015 expansion...he should have won last year though. Best villain pretty much ever.

Trico deserves a spot and I haven't even finished TLG yet. Kind of glad Alex fought that battle for it.
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And then we have the Doom character in there too.
 
ScientificPizza said:
I don't think it's a scam, but that doesn't mean there isn't a point where progress points you more towards micro transactions than in game progress. I don't think that's a scam, but that also doesn't mean it can't be frustrating
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Honestly I don't see it. It's really hard to spend money on things you want. If you come out of a game where Elite Barbarians whup your ass and think "damn that's a real weakness, I guess I need to run Witch or Skeleton army as a counter to that", then you pop over to the shop and those cards simply aren't available... then there's no way to spend money in a goal-oriented kinda way. And even if the card you want is available in the store, getting a full level it past level 7 or so costs an absurd amount.

Like right now I have Goblin Hut at 12/200. It'd cost me what, $40? $50? to get to 200 and then upgrade it. And then the in-game benefit isn't all that great anyway. Well obviously that's a horrible value proposition, so I'm not going to spend it. If you put that money into chests, there's no guarantee you'd get what you want; in fact, the game tends to give you cards that aren't as highly-leveled as your others, so you'll probably get some card you aren't currently using. Buying your way into a real advantage at arena 8 would cost hundreds of dollars. It's so obvious that spending money doesn't get you anything more than marginal improvement that I can't imagine anyone seriously spending money on an impulse.

By the time you get within spitting distance of the Legendary Arena, real money is close to useless. I suppose you need a lot of gold to use grade cards beyond level 10 or so, but by then if you aren't in the Legendary Arena, you just suck at the game.

The returns to skill and meta-reading deck construction are so much higher than the returns to spending money, it's no contest.
 
Jeff's little aside about half of Doom working against Doom at the end of today's podcast has me shook

He might pull a fast one and put Titanfall 2 as his #1

Brandon F said:
Vinny totally picked the wrong Witcher guy(Gaunter O'Dimm should have been the correct Hearts of Stone character choice), but regardless both came from a 2015 expansion...he should have won last year though. Best villain pretty much ever.

Trico deserves a spot and I haven't even finished TLG yet. Kind of glad Alex fought that battle for it.
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Most upsetting thing as a GB fan for two years now has been how hard they've slept on Witcher 3. Gaunter O'Dimm is objectively one of the best villains in gaming ever. That's why I think they lost a lot with Austin leaving, most of them prioritize gameplay over everything to such an extreme extent that they flat out ignore other really amazing things going on.
 
People are getting salty already? lol

Also everyone sleeping on Alex even when he has been on fire and it seems Jeff is actually gonna do his heel turn.

Day 5 should be fun
 
The hilarious thing about Mordor is that I still hear the Bombcast, and other podcasts as well, insist that the games taking advantage of the Nemesis system just haven't been unveiled yet. All the imitators are coming! Just wait!

It's never happening.
 
I can see Jeff doing it now. "Doom had an incredible campaign but the multiplayer is garbage. TitanFall 2 had a surprisingly great campaign and a fun multiplayer."
 
Nightengale said:
It's because it's day one/two awards that there's a tinge of saltiness. Doom deserves its place in the day four/five awards it'll get but seeing Samuel Hayden get seriously deliberated as best character was lol.
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Look, it's an award helmut kruger won. Don't think too hard on it.
 
Best looking discussion was real dumb. Brad arguing against Uncharted because he's seen ruins and islands before but arguing for Doom as if it's anything more than generic hell and hallways. Also Jeff arguing for Battlefield on a technical level while then saying Uncharted is just facial capture when Uncharted has more art in a single room than all of Battlefield or most games on that list period.
 
I'm with Jeff about the
patching stuff. It's not really a clear cut thing that can be solved. Like for example I remember Gears 4 had a 10+GB patch on Day 1 and it was for multiplayer. The reason was that it would not fit on the disc. What do you do when the game won't fit on the disc?
 
jbug617 said:
I'm with Jeff about the
patching stuff. It's not really a clear cut thing that can be solved. Like for example I remember Gears 4 had a 10+GB patch on Day 1 and it was for multiplayer. The reason was that it would not fit on the disc. What do you do when the game won't fit on the disc?
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2 discs?
 
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