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[Zekes!]

Doom is edgy the same way Reaper is edgy

what I'm saying is that Reaper needs a solo DOOM-esque game

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Doom is edgy the same way Reaper is edgy

what I'm saying is that Reaper needs a solo DOOM-esque game

reaper is fucking great

 

[Rhaknar]

Doom is edgy the same way Reaper is edgy

what I'm saying is that Reaper needs a solo DOOM-esque game

I would play that

 

[nckillthegrimace]

I almost bought Mankind Divided yesterday as part of a buy two get one free, and those spoilers make me regret not picking it up.

 

[I speel my dreenk]

😄 I will.

I should really watch that DOOM documentary.

I was actually about to recommend this

They went from making an actually edgy, potentially soulless game to making the self-aware, yet wholly fun DOOM 2016. They know what they did.

 

[renzolama]

😄 I will.

I should really watch that DOOM documentary.

It's actually very interesting and entertaining regardless of your feelings about DOOM. The story of how a studio with that kind of history changes/evolves and how it struggles to recapture the magic that led to its original success is fascinating.

 

[wild wild rice]

Best spoilers of the year should go to DE:HR

 

[Ladekabel]

Doom is edgy the same way Reaper is edgy

what I'm saying is that Reaper needs a solo DOOM-esque game

The Darkness starring Reaper

 

[kingocfs]

Is Titanfall 2 really that excellent of a campaign though. There are some fun levels and the movement is good and it has its moments but its 5 hours long and the actual combat encounters are bland and unmemorable especially compared to Doom or Deus Ex or Dishonored 2

This is cray.

Spoiler

Pump shutdown sequence, Dynamic Simulation Dome, all of the time travel fights, Trial by Fire, Viper boss fight...

It makes the most of those 5 hours. DOOM's repetitiveness is why it comes second for me; things blend together more. Haven't played the other two, though.

 

[SmiteOfHand]

This is a well known demonic insult roughly translating to "fuck your fat demon face" in modern language. Sheesh, read your demon lore manual sometime.

😄 I will.

I should really watch that DOOM documentary.

You need to read it in the original Latin to really get it.

 

[Zomba13]

Maybe I'm using the word edgy wrong then. I'm oblivious to that game and its style. Not my cup of tea. Didn't want to come off as a douchebag. Entschuldigung if I did.

I totally get the game being something some people don't like. I can fully understand that some people might look at it and go "nah, I'm good" and I do get some people might look at it and think it's an edgy, try hard game wanting to be gory and bloody to be cool but the way the game carries itself makes it clear that while yeah, it is super gory and violent, it's also over the top and kind of silly. From things like "DEMONIC INVASION IN PROGRESS" to things like recruitment messages for sacrifice (as in, we need volunteers to be turned into demons, come to Lab B at lunch if your interested, kind of thing).

To me edgy is something like dark and grungy and mean and trying to be cool with no self-awareness whereas something like Doom can look like it's edgy, and you could argue the older ones were, but really it knows what it is.

 

[Hyrule Warrior]

(spoilers for the whole game)

Spoiler

-Multiple sidequests involve mental rewriting technology (the cult in the sewers, the two serial killer sidemissions)
-An email reveals that one of the doctors involved in the latter is friends with the doctor who experimented on Jensen between games
-A bunch of sidequests involve character living double lives and betrayal (the undercover TF29 guy Vincent Black, Louis Gallois the merchant, the real serial killer, the two Illuminati moles in TF29 [one of which is only hinted at if you very carefully read emails and think about how certain interactions can affect alert states]) or fake identities (the whole thing about how "k." is whoever is running Samizdat, how you discover that the original Eliza is loose and the one on TV is an older version the Illuminati used to replace her, which is why she talks more robotically and her propaganda is more on the nose than the first game)
-If you find the original Eliza Cassan, she'll note that something about Adam doesn't match her memories of him but she isn't sure what
-Adam's fuzzy memories between games
-Delara, under the guise of a psych eval, asks Adam about his past, which can lead to options where she tells you the "official" story of the events of the first game and Adam can angrily correct her by telling her what really happened. Delara notes at the very end that Adam's memories are "consistent" as if that was the secret purpose of the eval all along and hints that they're using Adam to find the hacker Janus
-The splash screen is two Adam Jensens looking at each other, one of which has the glasses and one of which doesn't
-If you take the "go to the bank" option when pressed to choose between that and the Church of the MachineGod, in the VersaLife vault there is a box in the corner with a piece of wood covered a glass opening. If you use Smart Vision, you can see a head and torso inside. If you move the wood and stare closely, you'll see Adam's face, with his glasses removed, on the other side, seemingly frozen (link)

All of this certainly increases some of my appreciation for the game. I just wish it wasn't so forgettable otherwise. Part of what makes this so spoiler so interesting is how well hidden it is, so I don't know if it would have helped the game if it was more obvious. However, the game needed SOMETHING to keep me interested too. The gameplay felt exactly like Human Revolution to me, and that's not entirely a good thing because I thought that HR was good...but needed improvements. They didn't do that with MD.

 

[avengers23]

Yo. That's amazing.



Is there also some sick Linkin Park playing in the background bruh?

No, but there is a downbeat cover by Disturbd.

 

[oti]

No, but there is a downbeat cover by Disturbd.

Is that Ska?

 

[Diprosalic]

all sountracks nominated were terrible

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[RecRoulette]

The road to hell is paved by Argent Energy

 

[oti]

all sountracks nominated were terrible

¯_(&#12484_/¯

FF XV > rest

 

[Chuck]

Desire to listen to a game soundtrack outside of the game really shouldn't factor into the best game music award.

 

[Phediuk]

Any good candidates for Worst Game?

I don't think there were any atrocities on the level of Ride to Hell / Afro Samurai 2 this year.

 

[Zomba13]

Any good candidates for Worst Game?

I don't think there were any atrocities on the level of Ride to Hell / Afro Samurai 2 this year.

Clash Royale

 

[oti]

Phoenix Wright meets Orchestra wins best OST. Forever.

Desire to listen to a game soundtrack outside of the game really shouldn't factor into the best game music award.

I really liked the bit they played for Thumper. Sounded mysterious and very intriguing in the context of video games.

 

[Jintor]

Desire to listen to a game soundtrack outside of the game really shouldn't factor into the best game music award.

i disagree but I do think the OST's effectiveness in context of the game is more important

 

[Curufinwe]

Greg is such a great writer. I wish we could clone him and have Greg B work at Giant Bomb.

 

[Reedirect]

Oh god the Best Music category is really painful. No Man's Sky dismissed after like a minute (probably the only thing that's excellent in that game), The Last Guardian's brilliant OST shortly after.

 

[ScientificPizza]

DOOM is not edgy. Hatred is edgy. Postal is edgy. DOOM is not.

 

[def sim]

I'm not reading any of these spoilers, but the talk around it has got me wanting to check out Mankind Divided.

Still working on Tyranny and Catherine right now, though. 😰

 

[Brakke]

DOOM is like. Post-edge.

Edgehouse? Edgewave?

 

[FStop7]

DOOM is not edgy. Hatred is edgy. Postal is edgy. DOOM is not.

"Rip and tear until it's done"

C'mon. That might as well read "Jorts and Oakley Blades"

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

'Tis the GOTY Deliberations Season. 😄
I hope they don't take it too seriously.

Pfft of course not.

Doom is edgy the same way Reaper is edgy

what I'm saying is that Reaper needs a solo DOOM-esque game

I don't think DOOM is "edgy" because its obviously joyful in what its doing. It kind of has the Die Hard feeling of "How does the same shit happen to the same man so many times" but by now Doomguy is like a walking force of nature extinction level event and the Demons are so scared of his crusades that they establish an entire mythology around him. In a lot of ways its the antithesis of most modern shooters - in a lot of FPS you spend more time hiding in a corner waiting for your health to come back up and not advancing. But not in DOOM - bitches should be running from the Doomguy.

It manages to pull something out of nothing from Doom 1/2 which have pretty much no story besides the intros, endings and manuals that feels both like a celebration and a playful jab of the series.

 

[Zomba13]

DOOM is like. Post-edge.

Edgehouse? Edgewave?

Ska.

 

[Chuck]

all sountracks nominated were terrible

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Which soundtracks did you like then?

Oh god the Best Music category is really painful. No Man's Sky dismissed after like a minute (probably the only thing that's excellent in that game), The Last Guardian's brilliant OST shortly after.

TLG is my number 2 goty, but the soundtrack isn't that memorable. It's great when it's there, but a looooot of the game doesn't have music at all.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Welp, should have at least played Mankind Divided before I read all that lol.

Damn, that is wild.

I'm currently playing Watch Dogs 2 and damn, it is so much better than its predecessor.

Hitman still my GOTY but Watch Dogs 2 is top 3.

 

[ScientificPizza]

"Rip and tear until it's done"

C'mon. That might as well read "Jorts and Oakley Blades"

That's probably the most self referential moment of the game. It's parodying it's self using a well known meme.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

"Rip and tear until it's done"

C'mon. That might as well read "Jorts and Oakley Blades"

That in itself is a playful jab at the Doom comic tho!

 

[Nameless]

Yeah so I returned from vacation today and caught up on Day 1 & 2...holy shit you guys weren't lying. They have multiple well lubed fingers firmly inserted up DOOM's asshole. Judging from recent comments they even give it a reach round on Day 4. I think Brad is just going to nominate it for everything and see what sticks.

 

[Chuck]

Alex "I think [Battlefield 1] is primarily a visual show-piece...everything in there is at least fucntional..."

Dude what the fuuuuuuuuuuck.

Oh wow, now Jeff is say part of Gears multiplayer is bad so it shouldn't win. I sooooo hope Alex brings this up tomorrow with Doom.

 

[| Praxis |]

Maybe I'm using the word edgy wrong then. I'm oblivious to that game and its style. Not my cup of tea. Didn't want to come off as a douchebag. Entschuldigung if I did.

Don't worry, the majority of people use the word edgy wrong.

 

[renzolama]

Yeah so I returned from vacation today and caught up on Day 1 & 2...holy shit you guys weren't lying. They have multiple well lubed fingers firmly inserted up DOOM's asshole. Judging from recent comments they even give it a reach round on Day 4. I think Brad is just going to nominate it for everything and see what sticks.

I guess this is a clever way of saying "many people on the staff really enjoyed playing Doom". I'm still not sure why this is a problem, considering that the awards are meant to highlight the games that the GB group personally enjoyed playing this year.

 

[FStop7]

Alex "I think [Battlefield 1] is primarily a visual show-piece...everything in there is at least fucntional..."

Dude what the fuuuuuuuuuuck.

That's a hell of a box quote right there.

 

[Justinh]

Oh wow, now Jeff is say part of Gears multiplayer is bad so it shouldn't win. I sooooo hope Alex brings this up tomorrow with Doom.

What if it is Gerstmann who actually brings it up tomorrow?

 

[chromatic9]

Jeff does like fps campaigns like COD advance warfare where most don't give a fuck. Inside is probably a bit too pretentious artsy, like it's relying on presentation from his view. These types of games just don't seem to fly with him.

Funny hearing him say fuck Inside after conceding though. I've heard elsewhere people say fuck that game while the other guy is saying its his game of the year so far.

 

[Nameless]

I guess this is a clever way of saying "many people on the staff really enjoyed playing Doom". I'm still not sure why this is a problem, considering that the awards are meant to highlight the games that the GB group personally enjoyed playing this year.

It was obvious that it was a popular game among the staff and the GOTY frontrunner. I just think it's a stretch for it to be a favorite in several of these categories so far, especially when games that to the thing in question better are being dismissed.

 

[| Praxis |]

If Jeff somehow gets Titanfall 2 winning game of the year, I will probably politely disagree and carry on with my day.

So he better not pull that bullshit.

 

[Chuck]

What if it is Gerstmann who actually brings it up tomorrow?

If Overwatch pulls off a victory...oh man

 

[Courage]

MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE PLAYED DEUS EX BEFORE READING ALL THESE SPOILERS

Even after playing and finishing it, I only got hints of it via subtext and environmental cues. In a general sense though,

Spoiler

dual identity

is a major theme, down to the game's title.

 

[Brakke]

Don't worry, the majority of people use the word edgy wrong.

Saint Peter was crucified upside-down.

 

[| Praxis |]

Saint Peter was crucified upside-down.

He died pissing in his own face.

Why isn't he the patron Saint of golden showers?

 

[Felix Lighter]

They should have just played Hitman every holiday video.

 

[f0rk]

They should have just played Hitman every holiday video.

I mean there are 6 levels

 

[| Praxis |]

I mean there are 6 levels

Would have been more interesting than Gears.