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[Antiwhippy]

Vinny knows that he can just hold up the shield to block DVa's ult right?

Right?

 

[forgeforsaken]

So what categories are left?

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Vinny knows that he can just hold up the shield to block DVa's ult right?

Right?

The Iron Giant "You stay, I go" Reinhardt play was pretty popular for the first week!

Wouldn't even work anymore now that the bomb goes off faster

 

[forgeforsaken]

Vinny knows that he can just hold up the shield to block DVa's ult right?

Right?

That wont always save the team though.

 

[icespide]

It's weird that I enjoy this sites content so much but I can not stand most of the crews opinions or tastes in games

 

[V-Faction]

Vinny would probably caboose it back towards his fleeing team anyway, Sheikh Zanzibar style.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

That wont always save the team though.

If Reinhardt died and the enemy D.va lived you would lose anyway

#competitiveOW

 

[Antiwhippy]

That wont always save the team though.

It's a way more reliable way to do it though.

 

[Glass Shark]

Dan has no debate skills at all. He just can't hang with the others.

I just think Dan generally doesn't care enough to fight for anything. Most of the other guys are the same way. Alex has very particular things he will go to bat for (and usually ends up losing because he's the only one who played it) but Jeff and Brad are the only ones that actually take The Lists very seriously.

 

[SmackAttack]

As someone who likes Limbo but hasn't played Inside, do I need to pick this game up? Hearing the argument for Inside over the Titanfall 2 moment (which I'm glad Jeff fought so hard for) makes me think I really need to check it out.

Absolutely. I liked Limbo but didn't fall in love with it the way many did. INSIDE, however, is masterful work from a team that took what they did with their first game and refined it to near perfection. It's worth it.

Cant believe Forza Horizon 3 did not get more recognition for its music. Then again I doubt any of them actually put more than an hour in it to really hear much of the music.

Forza Horizon 3 needs more recognition period.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I think Alex and maybe Jason are the two people that are willing to give other games a chance or at least give them a nod.

 

[Bornstellar]

Aaaaaand they chose the wrong Titanfall 2 moment, lol

Yep. Just played through from Effect and Cause to the end, and while the SERE kit is awesome (especially the first time through), press q to

Spoiler

time travel

and how the level unfolded after that point definitely was the highlight.

 

[Strax]

I just think the game is boring and I don't understand the praise it gets. It's just another Rockstar game with interesting characters and a pretty world. The missions are still bad, the controlls are sluggish and the game itself could be so much tighter/better. I also think Western as a genre is super boring but that's neither here or there. Just personal preference.

It's well beyond what Rockstar has done written wise in all other games. There are maybe over 20 characters I felt I knew and cared about after playing the game. The tone/atmosphere are also so good I would just sit on my horse by a cliffside and let the music and scenery wash over me.

 

[broncobuster]

I like playing as Mei and using ice walls to block D.Va's blast. Or in between Roadhog and the sap he hooked to cancel it. People on the other team get real upset at Mei.

I just think Dan generally doesn't care enough to fight for anything. Most of the other guys are the same way. Alex has very particular things he will go to bat for (and usually ends up losing because he's the only one who played it) but Jeff and Brad are the only ones that actually take The Lists very seriously.

Regularly listening to the bombcast, I disagree. Even in trying to defend something that doesn't need defending, like Majora's Mask, he's not that skilled at making a convincing case.

 

[Antiwhippy]

It's well beyond what Rockstar has done written wise in all other games. There are maybe over 20 characters I felt I knew and cared about after playing the game. The tone/atmosphere are also so good I would just sit on my horse by a cliffside and let the music and scenery wash over me.

Too bad like every rockstar game the missions are boring as shit.

 

[Glass Shark]

I think Alex and maybe Jason are the two people that are willing to give other games a chance or at least give them a nod.

I always really appreciate Alex's quick "I know this won't hang, but I still want to mention it" interjections. He seems to go outside the mainstream more than any of the other duders and it's always great to hear about games that might otherwise get overlooked.

P.S. Thumper was robbed

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I just think the game is boring and I don't understand the praise it gets. It's just another Rockstar game with interesting characters and a pretty world. The missions are still bad, the controlls are sluggish and the game itself could be so much tighter/better. I also think Western as a genre is super boring but that's neither here or there. Just personal preference.

Also, Mario Galaxy 2 is the best game of all time. *brofist*

If you think the Western genre is boring then there's not much areas Red Dead could improve on to convince you.

 

[kiguel182]

Dan just says something is good or cool and not really why. Especially not in a compelling manner.

 

[Zornack]

I feel like Jeff's insistence to ding a game for having a bad component is some subconscious carryover from the GameSpot review days where a low score in one of a game's categories would affect the final score.

What does it matter if a game has a crappy multiplayer component if the singleplayer is worth the price of admission and more enjoyable than the entirety of a different game?

 

[forgeforsaken]

Yep. Just played through from Effect and Cause to the end, and while the SERE kit is awesome (especially the first time through), press q to

Spoiler

time travel

and how the level unfolded after that point definitely was the highlight.

This is what hurts Effect and Cause somewhat

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-gemini-heroes-reborn/2300-10969/

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I always really appreciate Alex's quick "I know this won't hang, but I still want to mention it" interjections. He seems to go outside the mainstream more than any of the other duders and it's always great to hear about games that might otherwise get overlooked.

P.S. Thumper was robbed

He talked about Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE in a few shout outs, which I didn't expect to see.

 

[LurkerPrime]

pls Dan

go to the hyperbolic time chamber and train your debate skills

give Stardew its due

I feel like Jeff's insistence to ding a game for having a bad component is some subconscious carryover from the GameSpot review days where a low score in one of a game's categories would affect the final score.

What does it matter if a game has a crappy multiplayer component if the singleplayer is worth the price of admission and more enjoyable than the entirety of a different game?

It's a great game, but...

-vs-

It's a great game!

 

[Death Metalist]

Too bad like every rockstar game the missions are boring as shit.

Excluding Max Payne 3.

 

[Chumley]

Excluding Max Payne 3.

fuck me that gif is perfect for MP3

now I want to reinstall it

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Excluding Max Payne 3.

Rockstar should take from the Remedy design doc more often because they make good games

Well I haven't played Quantum Break

 

[Zornack]

pls Dan

go to the hyperbolic time chamber and train your debate skills

give Stardew its due


It's a great game, but...

-vs-

It's a great game!

But if the "but" isn't part of the game they care about and if the great game part is better than the other great game then I think it shouldn't matter.

 

[Strax]

Too bad like every rockstar game the missions are boring as shit.

I thought the missions were good in the game context. It's a revenge/redemption story in the wild west and mostly grounded so of course that limits them.

 

[Antiwhippy]

So is there an overall message to Inside.

Or is it just themes for themes sake.

Because that's what it feels like to me just hearing and reading about it.

 

[RecRoulette]

I just think Dan generally doesn't care enough to fight for anything. Most of the other guys are the same way. Alex has very particular things he will go to bat for (and usually ends up losing because he's the only one who played it) but Jeff and Brad are the only ones that actually take The Lists very seriously.

Sort of hard to care when the only game you really care about gets stuffed every time you bring it up lol

 

[Zornack]

I mean ya'll heard those Stardew tracks.

Shit was weak and Dan knew it.

 

[Death Metalist]

fuck me that gif is perfect for MP3

now I want to reinstall it

I keep going back to it every year, nothing comes close to the satisfaction of MP3's gunplay when it comes to TPS games(well, maybe Vanquish does but in a different way). I looove the arcade mode.

Rockstar should take from the Remedy design doc more often because they make good games

Well I haven't played Quantum Break

Quantum Break has tons of potential that was mostly squandered. I enjoyed it but it wasn't that special, best thing about it is the gameplay though not the story sadly.

e: Remedy should stop putting important story bits into collectibles. It was like that with Alan Wake as well.

So is there an overall message to Inside.

Or is it just themes for themes sake.

Because that's what it feels like to me just hearing and reading about it.

Spoiler

We are all puppets

 

[Mister Negative]

I feel like Jeff's insistence to ding a game for having a bad component is some subconscious carryover from the GameSpot review days where a low score in one of a game's categories would affect the final score.

What does it matter if a game has a crappy multiplayer component if the singleplayer is worth the price of admission and more enjoyable than the entirety of a different game?

That's absolutely what it is, I had the same thought when I was thinking about it. It doesn't make the component of the game that you're there for any worse, so why does it matter...Unless you're summing up scores and averaging them out.

 

[hamchan]

I felt like they gave lies and misinformation to Vinny about Burnout Paradise, Geometry Wars and Mass Effect 2's PC ports, poor Vinny.

 

[jmood88]

I think Alex and maybe Jason are the two people that are willing to give other games a chance or at least give them a nod.

Vinny tries different stuff all the time.

 

[kiguel182]

Saying Doom is worse because of bad multiplayer is like arguing that a game without SP is worse than one with it or with both. What matters is if there's enough quality in there and in Dooms case there is. Multiplayer being there or not is irrelevant.

 

[wild wild rice]

I still have a difficult time coming to terms with the fact that Rockstar allegedly are capable of making the controls, encounters, gameplay scenarios and level design necessary to make a good action game.

To me, their games are basically macho antihero simulators that take place in impressively detailed worlds with garbage controls and dull missions.

But one day I'll give MP3 a chance.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Dan couldn't save Tropical Freeze. There was no way in hell he was gonna save Stardew Valley. He's like Mumen Rider from One Punch Man. His heart is in the right place and fight the good fight but he'll never win.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Vinny tries different stuff all the time.

He does. I just forgot.

 

[FStop7]

I feel like Jeff's insistence to ding a game for having a bad component is some subconscious carryover from the GameSpot review days where a low score in one of a game's categories would affect the final score.

What does it matter if a game has a crappy multiplayer component if the singleplayer is worth the price of admission and more enjoyable than the entirety of a different game?

"What does it matter?" If they include something in the package that's poor it's not just excused from critique because other parts of the product are good.

 

[Chumley]

Vinny tries different stuff all the time.

And never fights for any of them. He's better at debating than Dan and Jason but more passive and carefree than they are.

 

[Chuck]

Jeff really doesn't deserve Inside.

The easy mode bit in Titanfall bit isn't that great...

 

[Antiwhippy]

As much as we like to joke that it's the jeffies Jeff has been having hard losses throughout the deliberations so far.

 

[hamchan]

Dan couldn't save Tropical Freeze. There was no way in hell he was gonna save Stardew Valley. He's like Mumen Rider from One Punch Man. His heart is in the right place and fight the good fight but he'll never win.

Dan will never win a Best Music category. The whole thing already consists of people just saying "no I don't like this" and then trying to force their choice in. So now Dan is at a disadvantage since everyone just brings up Tropical Freeze and his choice instantly becomes the joke.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

The moment they fought over for Inside isn't even my favorite sequence in Inside.

Spoiler

The shockwave area is. For a long time you are wondering what that noise and shaking is, and you walk outside to see shockwaves going off. The sound/music combo there is amazing, and the first time you die there you wont forget it.

 

[AuthenticM]

are you guys trying to bust my data cap with those 70MB gifs? lol

 

[Death Metalist]

are you guys trying to bust my data cap with those 70MB gifs? lol

MP3 deserves it.

Here's a Neogaf script that blocks gifs from imgur and the like.

 

[Zornack]

"What does it matter?" If they include something in the package that's poor it's not just excused from critique because other parts of the product are good.

It's fine to call shit out for being shit, especially in the context of a review, but when it comes time for awards I don't think it should be a factor.

Doom's subpar multiplayer will undoubtedly come up as a knock against the game in the discussion tomorrow but if the room thinks that the singleplayer of Doom is better than the entirety of, say, Titanfall 2 then what should it matter?

 

[AngryMoth]

Titanfall 2 robbed, although I agree with the winner of best moment.

I've only watched the Hitman video so far, which other is most worth watching next?

 

[Chuck]

As much as we like to joke that it's the jeffies Jeff has been having hard losses throughout the deliberations so far.

And deservedly so.

I cannot believe Dan didn't find the thing in The Witness. Talk about playing games wrong, that might be the best example I've ever heard.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Spoiler

We are all puppets

Man if it's that rote I can understand jeff's distaste.