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Giant Bomb GoTY 2016- Agent 47, take out that Doom Marine

SamNW

Member
Oh, I'm not saying Inside is bad.

But since goty is more or less decided already, I'm just aiming for the side dishes.
Oh, totally. The top 5 games, though maybe not the order, is pretty clear, so I've made peace with the fact that Inside won't be in it and The Witness will be below Doom. I'm expecting:

1) Doom
2) Hitman
3-4) Overwatch, The Witness
5-7) Titanfall 2, Inside, Superhot
8-10) Uncharted 4, ???, ???
 
Someone taking a neutral stance on white supremacy is not something everyone is cool with.
I don't know that him not contributing to the conversation makes him neutral. That's a bit of a reach.
Yeah, there's nothing definitive, but Dan's personality certainly shares some characteristics of the type of people who would fall in with the whole "white supremacy" crowd. Wouldn't be surprised if he voted for Trump.
Jesus christ this thread is getting disgusting.
 
It's basically Pseudointellectualism: The Game. It says nothing about much of anything, but does it in such an artful way that it convinces others it is actually saying something profound. Inside is a dumb game that has convinced people it is smart. People are afraid to criticize it for fear of looking like a rube.
I'm sure people genuinely like it and think it great, but come ON, those people. Come on.

Uhh... I don't know anyone who thinks Inside is saying something 'profound'.

It's a well executed game with a very nice twist no one expected. That's it.
 
I think Dan knew nothing about the conversation and didn't want to say something dumb.

I mean, it's shitty he likely knew nothing about it, but, well, that's Dan.
 
Man, fuck Doom.

Like if that wasn't Jeff and Brad's favourite game of the year, we would have had a great fight. Do you guys think Jeff will go against Hitman, just to fuck with Brad now?

Edit: Cut Dan some slack, fucking hell. Some people are just uncomfortable with this, which is a shame, really.
 

bomma_man

Member
Giant Bomb crew clearly does not work out because I've listened to the Doom soundtrack fucking way too many times at the gym since it came out. Extremely good music to lift to.



No. Jeff's taste is awful, he thinks Last of Us and Witcher 3 suck too.

Red Dead, Last of Us, and Witcher 3 have basically the best characterization in AAA gaming and Jeff hates them all.

I'm late on this but it's pretty obvious, from those games that you picked, that Jeff does not give a shit about characterisation or story or world building or whatever unless they're accompanied by tight gameplay. Remember, the dude grew up on the 2600 and arcades - he has different priorities. As much as I love RDR, the shooting and even the mission design is mediocre at best. I gave up on Last of Us because of it's sloppiness (though I want to go back one day) and I'm reluctant to even start the Witcher because of what I've heard about the combat. It really isn't difficult to see why someone wouldn't like these games, but I guess it's easier to feign outrage.
 

Chumley

Banned
He and his dad have stated pretty liberal views in the past.

How about you not make baseless accusations about some pretty serious shit?

Not making accusations, just saying I don't buy that anyone on GB is ignorant about the current political climate.

I'm late on this but it's pretty obvious, from those games that you picked, that Jeff does not give a shit about characterisation or story or world building or whatever unless they're accompanied by tight gameplay. Remember, the dude grew up on the 2600 and arcades - he has different priorities. As much as I love RDR, the shooting and even the mission design is mediocre at best. I gave up on Last of Us because of it's sloppiness (though I want to go back one day) and I'm reluctant to even start the Witcher because of what I've heard about the combat. It really isn't difficult to see why someone wouldn't like these games, but I guess it's easier to feign outrage.

Not liking them but acknowledging the amazing work they do with characters and writing is one thing, dismissing them entirely is another. Big difference. But sure, I'm "feigning outrage".
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I think Dan knew nothing about the conversation and didn't want to say something dumb.

I mean, it's shitty he likely knew nothing about it, but, well, that's Dan.

I'm fairly sure he was with the crew when the news first break out. Why are we assuming he knew nothing of it?

Drew barely said a word about it too, do we presume him the same?
 
I think Dan knew nothing about the conversation and didn't want to say something dumb.

I mean, it's shitty he likely knew nothing about it, but, well, that's Dan.

Right. Was it Brexit people gave him shit about for not knowing? Or the TSA or something along those lines.

At a point if you don't know anything about a touchy subject, it's not the worst idea to keep your foot out of your mouth.
 

spiritfox

Member
I'm fairly sure he was with the crew when the news first break out. Why are we assuming he knew nothing of it?

Drew barely said a word about it too, do we presume him the same?

Drew likes Russian stuff after all.

that was said in jest just in case someone doesn't understand sarcasm.
 
I'm fairly sure he was with the crew when the news first break out. Why are we assuming he knew nothing of it?

Drew barely said a word about it too, do we presume him the same?
Yeah, people make weird assumptions about Dan constantly because they think he's stupid so everyone else is above him. It's super, super gross and condescending. There are much stupider people than Dan that appear more intelligent because they aren't as open about the things they don't know.
 

Chumley

Banned
Own up. Of course you're making accusations.

Lol. Tough guy over here. I have no idea what Dan's political leaning is and would not dare to guess. I've listened to every GB podcast and I've never heard him vouch for liberal or conservative views, and just because he works on a relatively liberal site doesn't automatically make him one. He could be a Gary Johnson guy for all I know.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
He has dropped pretty heavy hints or have stated before that he did not support Trump.

Like, I'm not going to pretend that he's the most politically active person in the world but these are some heavy accusations to drop on him apropos of nothing.
 

SamNW

Member
I'm late on this but it's pretty obvious, from those games that you picked, that Jeff does not give a shit about characterisation or story or world building or whatever unless they're accompanied by tight gameplay. Remember, the dude grew up on the 2600 and arcades - he has different priorities. As much as I love RDR, the shooting and even the mission design is mediocre at best. I gave up on Last of Us because of it's sloppiness (though I want to go back one day) and I'm reluctant to even start the Witcher because of what I've heard about the combat. It really isn't difficult to see why someone wouldn't like these games, but I guess it's easier to feign outrage.
I vehemently disagree with you about The Last of Us, but I also agree with your criticisms of RDR and the complaints about TW3's combat. I love those games despite their issues. I totally get why someone might not like any or all three of them. What I don't get is the impulse to judge taste as right or wrong (which is what you're responding to here). The idea that art is anything but subjective is ridiculous, and the insistence on "right" and "wrong" makes no sense. I think Inside is immaculate. Some people hate it. I think that Overwatch is boring and I don't care about the characters. Some people think it's the best multiplayer shooter ever. That's fine. Why is disagreement something to be corrected?
 

Brakke

Banned
Why would Dan speak up during politics stuff. Y'all are clearly lunatics ready to make wild, baseless claims. That dude's whole life is trolling and goofs, one of you doofuses would take whatever silly joke he was considering too seriously and make big 'ole mess of it.

If you're going to get Talmudic with these GOTY pods, at least bring a bare minimum of familiarity with these dudes to the table.

Dan didn't even know what a dang mortgage was until absurdly recently. There was no way he was going to navigate Palmer Luckey stuff from a place of being informed, and there was no way his ignorant goofball character would play well there. Plus Alex spit hot fire on the write-up anyway. Know your strengths, know your coworkers' strengths.

Chumley call your people and have them come pick you up.
 

Bowlie

Banned
Oh, totally. The top 5 games, though maybe not the order, is pretty clear, so I've made peace with the fact that Inside won't be in it and The Witness will be below Doom. I'm expecting:

1) Doom
2) Hitman
3-4) Overwatch, The Witness
5-7) Titanfall 2, Inside, Superhot
8-10) Uncharted 4, ???, ???

That's pretty much what I'm expecting too, haha.
 

erawsd

Member
Oh, totally. The top 5 games, though maybe not the order, is pretty clear, so I've made peace with the fact that Inside won't be in it and The Witness will be below Doom. I'm expecting:

1) Doom
2) Hitman
3-4) Overwatch, The Witness
5-7) Titanfall 2, Inside, Superhot
8-10) Uncharted 4, ???, ???

This looks about right to me, if today is any indication the fight for 5-7 will be glorious. Last two slots will probably be Firewatch and I could see Alex fighting to get Darkest Dungeon or Thumper in at 10.
 

Chumley

Banned
Chumley call your people and have them come pick you up.

No idea what this means but again, the suggestion that he isn't informed about Luckey and decided not to comment because of that is insane. He is absolutely informed, he just chose not to say anything, which is fine. He never says anything about this stuff, that's just who he is, for whatever his own reasons may be.
 

marrec

Banned
Every time someone puts up "TF2" I first read it as "Team Fortress 2", like some cool sick burn against Overwatch.
It doesn't help that people are often talking about Overwatch and Titanfall 2 in the same sentences all the time now I'm sitting here wondering why Team Fortress 2 is being considered for awards in 2016
 

SamNW

Member
Also there's no way uncharted 4 makes it onto the list at all.
Vinny, Dan, and Brad all have it on their top 10. Alex has praised it during deliberations. After the top 7, it gets pretty difficult to find games where there is any consensus. It's not a sure thing, but I think it's a pretty safe bet for #9 or #10.
 
So tomorrow I'm gonna be super late updating the op cause I've got work and work is horrible. I'll try to set up some prefab links for the day 5 deliberations and alex/jeff top 10s.
 

OkayRene

Member
There's something funny about axing Gears of War 4 early from Best Multiplayer—with good reason. And then serving up a 4 hour Gears of War Multiplayer video on the same day.
 

Brakke

Banned
Will Jeff fire everyone if Inside ranks before Titanfall 2?

Of course. Jeff has legendarily bad professional relationships, he's very difficult to work with. That's why he's fired so many people in his tenure. And why so many people have left Giant Bomb on terrible terms.

He's very petty and always on power trips. Everyone says this about him.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Of course. Jeff has legendarily bad professional relationships, he's very difficult to work with. That's why he's fired so many people in his tenure. And why so many people have left Giant Bomb on terrible terms.

He's very petty and always on power trips. Everyone says this about him.

Turns out autin had to pay the ultimate price in order to get invisible inc. onto the list.
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Of course. Jeff has legendarily bad professional relationships, he's very difficult to work with. That's why he's fired so many people in his tenure. And why so many people have left Giant Bomb on terrible terms.

He's very petty and always on power trips. Everyone says this about him.

Also, you can ALMOST spell 'Satan' with letters used in Jeff's last name.

It was staring us in the face all along...
 
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