broncobuster
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It is. But it's entertaining to hear them fool themselves into believing Hitman isn't game of the year.
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It is. But it's entertaining to hear them fool themselves into believing Hitman isn't game of the year.
eh
you've seen so many glory kills by that point it doesn't come off as that crazy
chrominance
Member
This is me just realizing that VA-11 Hall-A does not appear to be in the nominee list for Best Music.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. I'll just assume none of them played it and move on with my life, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. I'll just assume none of them played it and move on with my life, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Tbf hitman's release strategy plays a big part in that.
GlamFM
Banned
I´m not. Hitman is a way more interesting game to stream.
Yours and a bunch of the other posts above came off more like people being consdescending and weirdly projecting their own insecurities on Dan than jokey but whatever.
Yeah, I think memorable moments wise the game is definitely frontloaded, the bossfights in DOOM are also basically just OK, they look neat, but mechanically they're nothing special. (although to be fair the bar for FPS boss fights is very low)
If dooms mp dlcs were SP dlcs like hitman this wouldnt be the case
And again thats irrelevant
Lets talk about gears stream time
What place does mario party 10 have since theyve played like a day of mario party by now
they didn't even give it a quick look because it hit during the austin transition time i think. not that i know whether austin even played it but it is TOTALLY his jam
Aarglefarg
Member
For most people, I'd think the type of gameplay in Hitman is much more entertaining to watch than the type of gameplay in Doom.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Look at the hitsmas video and find out why.
Yeah, I'd rather play DOOM, but much rather watch Hitman.
Twin Tails
Member
we were all waiting for the return of breaking brad: doom nightmare this year
ShockingAlberto
Member
Hitman is a playground, Doom is a ride.
There's way more video content in the former than the latter.
There's way more video content in the former than the latter.
I will be very surprised if it makes number 10, Dan and Brad have it on their personal lists, but they were even pretty negative on it there. I almost wondered why they included it.
My guess when it comes to the love for DOOM and Inside is this:
DOOM pushes you to be aggressive in every encounter no matter what. It strikes a balance between being on the brink of Game Over and feeling awesome in a kinda-old-but-also-new way seeing how other shooter games over the last few years have been about cover and just slowing down the action in general.
What Brad said about THAT Inside moment made me realize that I completely forgot about the instant realization at that moment:
I get that, it's cool, surprising and doesn't happen often. But the ending sequence is so "out there" it tries to hide the game's shortcomings like the mildly interesting puzzles at best (the gameplay is nothing to write home about) with a shock moment it doesn't deserve, it doesn't resolve (fair enough, but there are better ways to do it) and frankly isn't really worth to talk about at length.
We don't get games likes this that often and not every game has to be waifu Roboter wars but I just don't understand the love and passion this insanely high polished but ultimately flat experience gets. And I haven't heard a good argument why it deserves the praise it gets. All I'm hearing is "but it's so good!!!" and "yeah it is".
DOOM pushes you to be aggressive in every encounter no matter what. It strikes a balance between being on the brink of Game Over and feeling awesome in a kinda-old-but-also-new way seeing how other shooter games over the last few years have been about cover and just slowing down the action in general.
What Brad said about THAT Inside moment made me realize that I completely forgot about the instant realization at that moment:
this boy is dead and everything you did to escape was pointless
We don't get games likes this that often and not every game has to be waifu Roboter wars but I just don't understand the love and passion this insanely high polished but ultimately flat experience gets. And I haven't heard a good argument why it deserves the praise it gets. All I'm hearing is "but it's so good!!!" and "yeah it is".
Before podcasts all we could do was assume that GOTY just happens, because no one else was in the room when it happens.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
you're the crazy one
Aarglefarg
Member
The ending of Inside was good but after playing games like Flower, Journey, Abzu and Entwined (can't remember for sure if it is an example), it at the same time felt like
yet another 'power fantasy' ending. There was more to it that stopped it from just being a cliche but the structure is still a bit overdone.
Crayon
Member
Yes. That is exactly how it is.
PuppetMaster
Member
WOW DAN!! He beat The Witness but never noticed the environment puzzles!
That's just... wow...
That's just... wow...
Aarglefarg
Member
Jonathan Blow said somewhere, maybe it was in his video with Giant Bomb, that he could tell that a few reviewers didn't notice any.
I bet the Doom marine thinks it's all just routine
PuppetMaster
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Then I am pretty they didn't "beat" the game without getting a lot of help from other people or looking up the answers.
There is no way someone can be that dense as to not notice the hundreds of clues littered through out the world, some of which are extremely obvious, while still being "clever" enough to solve the puzzles all the way to the end.
soundscream
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ashbash159
Member
I kinda feel bad for not feeling anything when realising the environmental puzzles in The Witness.
After leaving the beginning area, there's a hill lookong over the water and a dock that immediately points out one of these puzzles and I immediately saw it, probably after 5 minutes of starting the game.
When they were talking earlier in the year about "that moment" I couldn't figure out what they were talking about because it didn't impact me at all.
However their arguments for it being on the Best Moments list are very well talked out.
After leaving the beginning area, there's a hill lookong over the water and a dock that immediately points out one of these puzzles and I immediately saw it, probably after 5 minutes of starting the game.
When they were talking earlier in the year about "that moment" I couldn't figure out what they were talking about because it didn't impact me at all.
However their arguments for it being on the Best Moments list are very well talked out.
Inviusx
Member
I'll be pissed if Hitman wins over Doom. Hitman seems cool but it has a serious case of "the giant bomb effect". Its fun for them to stream and its fun for people to watch but is it really THAT fun for the average joe who just plays games by himself?
Mario Maker won last year because of this and I think it misrepresented the game.
Mario Maker won last year because of this and I think it misrepresented the game.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yes.
They've said time and time again during this year that it is their awards, its not for the average Joe. Like almost every other outlet it is completely subjective so if they had the most fun with Hitman, it will and should win.
It has zero chance, but I agree with your sentiment.
Maybe I followed the game too closely before release, but I always suspected this to be in there. That's why they put so much effort into the environments. So yeah, that didn't really blow my mind either, but it's still cool.
chillybright
Banned
You and me both.
I saw it on top of the golden building in the desert area, which was the first area I explored. I actually thought it would require more effort to do it for example sunshine has to be perfectly lined up since the puzzles in that area were about lighting. So I was kinda of disappointed after realizing how easy it was.
Honestly I think Dan probably skipped all those tree brach puzzles. No one can still not realize the environmental ones after that.
opticalmace
Member
Yes
What video is this from? Thanks.
I only watch the Mainstream Awards and Clash Royale took it all.
chillybright
Banned
Uncharted will be #11.
Inviusx
Member
Well if its that awesome then it deserves to be a serious contender. Their Mario Maker win last year still irks me though and I just get the impressiom that it's heading that way again this year with Hitman.
I think you're agreeing with me but yes just to make sure you are correct, if you're arguing that something is objectively good instead of making an actual case for the game you've already lost.
I just finished Doom and honestly I still feel like I had a better time in Hitman.
Like, Doom is amazing. But it's not fascinating to me in the same way as Hitman is.
Yes
This video is amazing, hitman deserves top 3 tbh, but I still think DOOM will win.
That's how I always took it. Was like oh; that's how group lists get silly and weird. And boom "bad" video game lists stopped bothering me.