TharpDaddy
Member
It's not even the best FPS campaign this year! Once I got to Hell my motivation to play that game dropped off a cliff, couldn't force myself to get through the rest of it. Titanfall 2 was much more compelling and fun imo.
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It's not even the best FPS campaign this year! Once I got to Hell my motivation to play that game dropped off a cliff, couldn't force myself to get through the rest of it. Titanfall 2 was much more compelling and fun imo.
broncobuster
Banned
Hyper Light Drifter, Event0, Stellaris, House of the Dying Sun, Thumper, and Darkest Dungeon are the games I came out of their GOTY thinking I need to play. All in all, I'm shocked with how many of the "top" games this year I managed to play.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Holy shit, Dan's singing.
I had to stop the video.
It's like he's telling us the story of how the boys are back in town.
Brad can't keep his composure.
I had to stop the video.
It's like he's telling us the story of how the boys are back in town.
Brad can't keep his composure.
Blitzrules240
Banned
lol the fucking abrupt stop.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Titanfall 2 is certainly an excellent campaign and much better then the standard military FPS faire you would get, and it does prioritize movement.
But theres practically zero enemy variety and on harder difficulties you still feel the need to hide and regen hp (especially with the overpowered stealth camo.) In DOOM, the harder the difficulty is the more incentivized you are to go balls deep because of how relentless the enemies are and how you get health/ammo back. There is no hiding because you are the unstoppable force. That's what I like about DOOM. Its textbook my kind of FPS design.
All of those are great.
Incandenza
Banned
My biggest fear is that I actually sound like Dan when I try to sing.
Conciliator
Banned
I'm so mad right now.
About the Overwatch characters category.
Zarya got screwed and Symmetra wasn't even in the discussion. I mean, Reinhardt?! Beyond the pale.
About the Overwatch characters category.
Zarya got screwed and Symmetra wasn't even in the discussion. I mean, Reinhardt?! Beyond the pale.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Why would anyone talk about Symmetra? This was before she got buffed to be useful and not a pick that causes immediate disgust worse then Hanzo
Reinhardt is probably the most important Overwatch character across all metas. Like they said, you build a team around Reinhardt. He is your anchor.
Brad is a huge
Doom/id/John Carmack fanboy (Pretty sure he even admits to it during the deliberations this week).
Handwaving away bad parts of games because other parts are good is how we ended up with Skyrim as GOTY.
GOTY:
They made the right choice, I haven't even played it and I recognize that Hitman is an incredible game. The Doom campaign is great, but there's at least one portion (first person platforming to climb that fucking shaft thing) that make me never want to replay it.
Best Story:
Doom shoved into yet another category it doesnt belong in. "Remember those holigrams that told you to worship hell, weren't they funny? Remember all those text logs you had to read to get the story, weren't they great?"
No, they weren't. The story in Doom was generic as hell, but played to the nostalgia of people who love Doom.
No, they weren't. The story in Doom was generic as hell, but played to the nostalgia of people who love Doom.
Mei wasn't given a fair shake considering she is the best Overwatch character of all time.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Snap map isn't trash. And the multiplayer isn't trash, either. It's just mostly uninteresting.
They're fine at worst with a phenomenal single player that is more than worth the price of admission.
Mushroomer25
Member
Titanfall 2 makes up for a lack of enemy variety with actual level variety. While DOOM runs the gammot from 'space hell' to 'industrial hell', Titanfall sends you through active factory floors. A high-flying platforming routine atop a satellite array. Duels atop military ships in active chase. Not to mention the wild assortment of gameplay mechanics that keep popping up. It opens with a speed trial, introduces platforming challenges, horde based enemy encounters, and the masterpiece that is Effect and Cause.
Doom is a great series of enemy encounters. Titanfall is a great campaign.
Finished today's episode, overall a pretty solid list based on the deliberations. The top choice seems about right based on what I've seen from the site this year.
Based on this year's list, the games I want to try are Hyper Light Drifter, Thumper, and Stardew Valley. Was also glad that
made its way onto the list as that is some of the most fun I've had with a game this year.
I should also probably get Overwatch, even though I have no idea when I'd have the time to play it. (and no friends interested enough in it to play it with)
DOOM being in the running for best story was... what? The story in that game was literally the last thing on my mind while playing the game. Yeah there were some interesting/funny beats along the "Doom guy doesn't care" lines but yeah, that was a weird fit in that category IMO.
I was also worried that Jeff's irrational hatred of Inside was going to get it pushed off the list, but I'm glad the rest of the group kept it on. It is undoubtedly one of the best games of the year and surely deserved to be on that list.
Based on this year's list, the games I want to try are Hyper Light Drifter, Thumper, and Stardew Valley. Was also glad that
Superhot
I should also probably get Overwatch, even though I have no idea when I'd have the time to play it. (and no friends interested enough in it to play it with)
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
That is two different FPS designs. Titanfall 2 has influences of Call of Duty designs and Doom with the 90s design of FPSs. Both can be good and bad.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Huh.
Should have realized that
not having good
would revert Jeff's alliances so quickly.
Makes sense, in retrospect.
Should have realized that
Doom....
multiplayer
Makes sense, in retrospect.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Thats a really good point. Doom's level design isn't about setpieces, its about the labyrinthine mazes of old FPS filled with secrets and upgrades and in some cases, the ability to sequence break by getting a weapon early. They just prioritize different things and I lean more Doom's way.
Fwiw, Titanfall 2 is also more fun then I've had with any military fps ever. I'd probably put it above Wolfenstein TNO/TOB and around Half-Life 1.
See thats where I disagree because I don't think I've ever found a CoD campaign interesting. Titanfall 2 handily beats even the best Call of Dutys in SP and MP, and I've enjoyed Call of Duty MP before.
EnlightenedMint
Member
I was not expecting that GOTY, but I am pleasantly surprised, Jeff saving it.
I don't think this should necessarily impact GOTY discussions (being, as they are, reflections of how much fun folk had with a title) but for practical purposes it's worth mentioning that I bought Doom and it's currently sitting at literally a 76.7GB size. As a singular consumer who recently suffered a catastrophic HDD failure and is trying to play games on just a 250GB SDD, that's fucking outrageous.
Dark Souls would win for all time.
I enjoyed and was more interested in the lore of Overwatch this year than in Dark Souls 3's.
I mean, there's a fraught discussion to be had there concerning an aesthetic and/versus an actual personality, right?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Pharah might be the most boring Overwatch character. Yes, including Bastion.
Her design, kit and skins are great but she has like zero personality. Even walking templates like Soldier 76 and Reaper have more fun to them.
Pharah's laugh emote is that she laughs for a second, catches herself laughing, and then stops.
Her design, kit and skins are great but she has like zero personality. Even walking templates like Soldier 76 and Reaper have more fun to them.
Pharah's laugh emote is that she laughs for a second, catches herself laughing, and then stops.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Just finished the podcast, I'm shook.
slightconfuse
Banned
Clearly mass effect 2 is the game of the year
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
We have to agree to disagree then on what a good FPS campaign is. Becuase the single player campaign in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare were pretty good in the history of FPS.
Sir you are incorrect
I realize, and I know some things are problematic. I just enjoyed how Drew sounded, that's all.
(And I like her if only because her Anubis skin reminds me of Anubis from ZOE)
Hitman won! I couldn't believe it. Especially after Vinny putting it as his top game but supporting Hitman as number one. Hitman is the best game for sure.
On the other hand the idea that Doom has a better story than Firewatch is baffling. I get that some people don't like the ending but Firewatch tells such a touching tale about two (three) broken people and how they deal with their shit while subverting the thriller genre that Doom, even if fun in an absurd way, can't even compare.
Doom has fun writing but so does Hitman. Firewatch is touching and makes you think about life. The idea that Drew forgot about characters (that are talked about way more than Brad implied) just says more about him than the game.
Firewatch is a fantastic game with such a human and down to heart story that ugh, it made me listen to them saying how Doom had a better story so weird. I mean, taste and all but I just couldn't connect.
But, going back to the positive side, Hitman fucking won. Yes! GOTY without a doubt.
Also, Vinny might not like constraints but they do help with you being creative. Escalations give you constraints without feeling like a check list, I feel he would enjoy that.
Hitman is amazing and everybody should play it. The better game won and when Jeff said they should swap Doom with Hitman I was like "hell yeah!".
On the other hand the idea that Doom has a better story than Firewatch is baffling. I get that some people don't like the ending but Firewatch tells such a touching tale about two (three) broken people and how they deal with their shit while subverting the thriller genre that Doom, even if fun in an absurd way, can't even compare.
Doom has fun writing but so does Hitman. Firewatch is touching and makes you think about life. The idea that Drew forgot about characters (that are talked about way more than Brad implied) just says more about him than the game.
Firewatch is a fantastic game with such a human and down to heart story that ugh, it made me listen to them saying how Doom had a better story so weird. I mean, taste and all but I just couldn't connect.
But, going back to the positive side, Hitman fucking won. Yes! GOTY without a doubt.
Also, Vinny might not like constraints but they do help with you being creative. Escalations give you constraints without feeling like a check list, I feel he would enjoy that.
Hitman is amazing and everybody should play it. The better game won and when Jeff said they should swap Doom with Hitman I was like "hell yeah!".
Mushroomer25
Member
Pharah as a character for a huge boost from the community through the Pharamercy ship. It paints that character in a way more human light than ever surfaces in the game. That makes me play with her landing in the top three.
That said, they clearly picked her based on gameplay. Considering a ton of the dudes have a love of Quake, it all fit.
meanspartan
Member
I have been spoiler tagging mine, but honestly, if you click on newest posts on this thread and get spoiled (assuming you consider their pick a "spoiler"), you have only yourself to blame.
So is Geometry Wars game of the generation?
100% agreed. I was personally pulling for Zarya, she's actually a pretty bold design both artistically and mechanically.
100% agreed. I was personally pulling for Zarya, she's actually a pretty bold design both artistically and mechanically.
Unaha-Closp
Member
I'd say its a tie between The Last of Us and Red Dead Redemption but that is just me.
Mushroomer25
Member
I think it's more "game of the generation that you always want avaliable at a moment's notice"
Death Metalist
Member
The fuck are you talking about
Jeff's taste is in a constant state of nonsensical inconsistency.
It's not even the best game containing the words "Geometry Wars" in the title.
meanspartan
Member
Hitman Collector's Edition is only $80 on Amazon, is the statue good quality anyone know?
It looks cool, but they often look cool but are trash quality.
Also, is the extra content in the upcoming steelbook worth getting? I think collector's edition just comes with a basic download of the five episodes or something.
It looks cool, but they often look cool but are trash quality.
Also, is the extra content in the upcoming steelbook worth getting? I think collector's edition just comes with a basic download of the five episodes or something.
I'm talking about whichever one Brad seems to love.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
I'd say it's probably at least partly due to his personal list saying he was bummed at Doom's actual multiplayer compared to his nostalgia of the original games.
It's not about "the average", it's more like evaluating a complete experience which honestly should be a more common approach to video game critique. Judging something just by its high points and low points isn't really a great approach since a review should explore and speak of the game's entire content.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah I think a lot if people like her more because of Pharmercy.
Like I get it she's a security guard who's super job focused but you made 76 more fun.