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[Death Metalist]

Absolver looks fucking awesome(I was already excited for it when I watched the developer commentary videos). It also looks like a game I don't want to play right now because I could not dedicate a lot of my time on it. Looks like another December/early next year kind of game.

 

[Hasney]

I think their pick for best old game would be a battle between windjammers and mario sunshine.

If Dan managed to get Sunshine up there as best old game, then I would believe he could be voted mayor.

 

[Death Metalist]

If Dan managed to get Sunshine up there as best old game, then I would believe he could be voted mayor.

He got those around him to play Mario Sunshine. Nowhere to go from there but up!

 

[Drek]

Are you thinking of Kingsway?

That's it, thank you very much.

When did Adult Swim start putting out so many interesting video games? [rhetorical question] Strange times.

 

[brainzelda]

I think their pick for best old game would be a battle between windjammers and mario sunshine.

You mean Star Fox 2? (once Jason gets his mini...)

 

[Data West]

Horizon is the Bioshock Infinite of 2017

 

[Liquid Shake]

That's it, thank you very much.

When did Adult Swim start putting out so many interesting video games? [rhetorical question] Strange times.

No worries! And yeah it's still weird to me to see Adult Swim as a publisher on these games.

 

[LiK]

I wonder if anyone else got the reference when Vinny said "send a drawing of the turtle to Vinny."

 

[Dangansona]

Late to seeing the news, but I'm very happy for Jeff & his wife. Jeff's been through enough shit over the years, glad it was good news.

Oh wow I missed that too! Awesome!

 

[Blitzrules240]

#TeamFall

Fall/Autumn is the best time of the year.

 

[imBask]

#TeamFall

Fall/Autumn is the best time of the year.

8 C this morning here, feeling goooooooooooood

 

[Hindl]

#TeamFall

Fall/Autumn is the best time of the year.

Fuuuuuuuck that summer all the way

 

[Hasney]

#TeamFall

Fall/Autumn is the best time of the year.

Word

 

[Data West]

absolver seems like a cool game no one will be playing in a month

 

[LiK]

I'm laughing when Vinny said Dan could somehow befriend Grim Reaper because I can totally picture that, lol

 

[Blitzrules240]

Fuuuuuuuck that summer all the way

Read this in Abby's voice.

 

[TraBuch]

I'm laughing when Vinny said Dan could somehow befriend Grim Reaper because I can totally picture that, lol

Bill & Ted & Dan?

 

[Antiwhippy]

I'm laughing when Vinny said Dan could somehow befriend Grim Reaper because I can totally picture that, lol

He'll be like rincewind.

 

[Tagyhag]

I'm laughing when Vinny said Dan could somehow befriend Grim Reaper because I can totally picture that, lol

I think Dan would try to melvin Death.

And he'd get killed.

 

[Death Metalist]

somebody stop this train

 

[MadLaughter]

Dan Ryckert will accidentally try and wash a seasoned food with a household cleaning chemical and inadvertently conjure mythical ambrosia and become the first human rendered immortal.

 

[Data West]

re the Bombcast: Ring of Honor is worse than WWE and has been for the last 5 years

It's real bad. Stick to pretty much any other promotion.

 

[daveo42]

#TeamFall

Fall/Autumn is the best time of the year.

Agreed. Love the fall. Hoodies and strong, dark beer and the changing of the leaves.

Horizon is the Bioshock Infinite of 2017

Nah, Horizon is great game with an interesting and deep world and story. Infinite can be interesting and deep as long as you don't actually look past the surface. Horizon also has superior gameplay.

Infinite is a mediocre game that wished it was good as the original Bioshock.

 

[Hasney]

I'd rather watch ROH than WWE just for match quality, but I'd rather just continue watching neither and watching the occasional recommended ROH match.

 

[Data West]

I'd rather watch ROH than WWE just for match quality, but I'd rather just continue watching neither and watching the occasional recommended ROH match.

I've never seen anyone recommend a ROH match in the last 5 years

I've seen people recommend WWE matches

 

[bemusedchunk]

Autumn is where it's at.
It was freezing this morning and I loved it!

 

[mullet2000]

Horizon is the Bioshock Infinite of 2017

That's a bit harsh, it's much more interesting mechanically than Infinite.

Though I agree that I don't get the sense that it'll be looked back on as fondly as it was looked at at launch. A lot of stuff this year overshadowed it, I thought. And there's a lot of stuff I played this year that I got a "people will still look back on this game fondly 10 years from now" feeling from.

 

[Wunder]

As someone who has lived very close to the equator - I love Spring/Fall weather

 

[Human Trashcan]

I don't think Horizon's good to begin with

 

[Data West]

In the combat in Horizon good when it's the exact same 10 hours in as it is 50 hours in?

 

[Hasney]

I've never seen anyone recommend a ROH match in the last 5 years

I've seen people recommend WWE matches

I mean, they were mostly NJPW matches contested during an ROH event, but they count. Kinda.

 

[Antiwhippy]

As someone who has lived very close to the equator - I love Spring/Fall weather

Pretty much.

I live for fall/winter months.

Fuck the heat. Don't miss it.

 

[mullet2000]

In the combat in Horizon good when it's the exact same 10 hours in as it is 50 hours in?

That's definitely the part about the combat that felt lacking to me.

There's a lot of tools and a lot of them are front loaded so the combat feels really interesting at first, but it starts on a high and then doesn't really go any higher for the most part. It evolves through to the first half-ish then kinda plateaus.

 

[daveo42]

In the combat in Horizon good when it's the exact same 10 hours in as it is 50 hours in?

I assume you haven't played much Horizon then? Or did you just use the same bow and arrows the entire time and gloss over traps, bombs, elements, and different kinds of arrow heads based around the enemies you went up against?

Edit: Completely forgot about robot fighting as well. But yea, totally no depth to combat and it's 100% the same start to finish.

 

[Death Metalist]

I hate winter because it's depressing. At the very least, back home when it's winter it doesn't rain as much as it does here in the UK. Here, it fucking rains randomly and it sucks. SUCKS.

 

[Basileus777]

In the combat in Horizon good when it's the exact same 10 hours in as it is 50 hours in?

Yes. And you could slap the same descriptor on pretty much any game with combat.

 

[Data West]

I assume you haven't played Horizon then? Or did you just use the same bow and arrows the entire time and gloss over traps, bombs, elements, and different kinds of arrow heads based around the enemies you went up against?

Played and finished it. The game's skill trees and lack of weapons make it incredibly repetitive. You mention 'different types of arrows' but mechanically they all function in nearly the same way with small % changes based on attack points. By the time you've reached Meridian you already have purple gear, all the traps and purple weapons which you won't replace for the several tens of hours left of the game you have and all you'll get for new gear in their faux rpg are very small stat modifiers.

occasionally you'll get a new skill that lets you stab someone from on top of a rock. very exciting.

Yes. And you could slap the same descriptor on pretty much any game with combat.

Most RPGs tend to have a progression system either through new, diverse skills or varied gear. Horizon caps that off 1/4th of the way through

 

[xuchu]

Very happy for Jeff and his wife. Are they gonna stream the PAX panel?

 

[Basileus777]

Horizon isn't really an RPG though. But yeah its progression and itemization do leave much to be desired, even if they aren't outright busted like in the Witcher 3.

I never found Horizon repetitive though. I enjoyed the combat all the way through and liked the world design/lack of the typical filler content.

 

[Data West]

oh yeah and the dialogue choices that don't do anything.

forgot about those. what a deep, indepth storied role playing game

 

[TraBuch]

oh yeah and the dialogue choices that don't do anything.

forgot about those. what a deep, indepth storied role playing game

Before I die, I will become a billionaire and single-handedly fund Alpha Protocol 2 and give Obisidian all the money they need.

 

[Basileus777]

oh yeah and the dialogue choices that don't do anything.

forgot about those. what a deep, indepth storied role playing game

Not even the devs claimed it to be that, but ok.

 

[Data West]

Not even the devs claimed it to be that, but ok.

Then why include it at all

Before I die, I will become a billionaire and single-handedly fund Alpha Protocol 2 and give Obisidian all the money they need.

For a game from the writer of Falllout New Vegas, I was shocked that there was only one memorable character in the whole thing. And it definitely wasn't Alloy.

 

[Fireblend]

The lack of a GBEast livestream today is the worst

 

[Basileus777]

Before I die, I will become a billionaire and single-handedly fund Alpha Protocol 2 and give Obisidian all the money they need.

I'm not sure I'd trust modern Obsidian to write it tbh.

 

[TraBuch]

I can't remember any character in New Vegas tbh, and I loved the game. Guess there was the guy in the suit who shot the MC, but I can't remember his name.

 

[daveo42]

oh yeah and the dialogue choices that don't do anything.

forgot about those. what a deep, indepth storied role playing game

Lack of dialogue choice doesn't mean it has a bad story. They had a story they wanted to tell and a character they wanted you to play as. Unless you expected something like a Bethesda-style RPG prior to release of Fallout 4. And, it's a modern open world game with "RPG elements" and not a much more strict RPG.

Sorry the game wasn't The Witcher 3 I guess? Not sure why you played Horizon if you were looking for more Witcher tbh.

Then why include it at all

For a game from the writer of Falllout New Vegas, I was shocked that there was only one memorable character in the whole thing. And it definitely wasn't Alloy.

Extra dialogue between characters to flesh them out. But yeah, completely useless to include character interactions.

 

[Catvoca]

I'm not sure I'd trust modern Obsidian to write it tbh.

Is the writing in Pillars and Tyranny not as strong as it used to be? I haven't played those games yet.

 

[Basileus777]

Is the writing in Pillars and Tyranny not as strong as it used to be? I haven't played those games yet.

Pillars isn't well written at all and Tyranny's writing was fine, but not anything to write home about. Obsidian isn't the same studio that put out Mask of the Betrayer and KOTOR2, they've lost a lot of writing talent.

 

[Human Trashcan]

Horizon, and Aloy in particular, is what happens when a bunch of dudes want to write a Strong Female Protagonist ie. Mary Sue with no personality other than Strong, no flaws, and certainly no interest in sex, lord no. Make it as safe as humanly possible.