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Giant Bomb |OT32| I've been meaning to love a boat
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ThanksVision
Member
Breath of the Wild is so good it made me like games again
like, in all honesty it rekindled a love for the hobby that I hadn't really felt in a long time
like, in all honesty it rekindled a love for the hobby that I hadn't really felt in a long time
Sleeping Lesson
Member
That's actually interesting! BotW made me appreciate aspects of the other Zeldas that I'd taken for granted. In a way it made me like them more.
There is no room for fake opinions.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Haha I correctly guessed the twist in Kiwami.
ThanksVision
Member
i was a regular robotrock until botw arrived
SunDimension24
Member
Boy did I have that in the back of my mind after finishing P5. It was a good game but there were just enough shortcomings and problems I had with the game that it made me wonder "Did Persona 4 have these problems as well, I was just younger and it was my first Persona game so I was more accepting of its faults?" I'm afraid to go back and find out because P4 is my GOAT and I don't want to sully that.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Persona 4 was always the weakest of the modern personas and 3 is still the best game in the series.
Death Metalist
Member
Phantom Thieves >>> Scooby-Doo Detective Crew
The Dear Leader
Banned
Persona 5 is only good if you enjoy bad video games.
Blitzrules240
Banned
What the duck.
slightconfuse
Banned
Persona 5 has the best persona designs
Human Trashcan
Banned
same. I realize P4 had its share of problematic shit but I do feel like it was much more interested in its characters. Also helped that the themes of the dungeons were directly related to the characters instead of nothing antagonists like in P5.
The Dear Leader
Banned
That's a Northern Mesopotamian Territorial Wintershire Goose sir, pls don't get it twisted with an average duck.
Hmmm you raise some valid points. As I like Persona 5, maybe I should give Destiny 2 a second look.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Complicated and full of wonder?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Tying the characters to the dungeons is a really great move by persona 4.
Too bad they undermined the development in the dungeons immediately once they're are done!
It's a ninja right. Same shit.
Persona 5 was good. Everyone wasn't constantly telling you how great you are
it would be amazing
Shrink the size of BotW by about a 3rd and combine regions (Like both of the snow regions and some of the wooded regions) so you get down to 7-8 regions instead of the 13 in BotW and make a region-specific dungeon like the one I described above and that would help a lot. I loved a lot of regions, but there wasn't a ton to do in them if they didn't have a Divine Beast
I dunno, I get wanting more traditional dungeons, but I think that could work in BotW. Honestly, one part of BotW that disappointed me was that it seemed like they were trying to make massive dungeons within the world, but it didn't translate. Look at this quote from 2014:
Now think if they pulled it off. In the Faron Woods south of the Plateau, there's a section that kind of evokes this, but it just ends in another shrine. But a BotW 2 could pull that off now that the foundation is down. Replace the Divine Beasts with something like the Champions being sealed and the player has to find and release them. Stick one of them in a massive forest that the player can approach from multiple different directions, and the different routes you take result in different environmental puzzles to figure out. And I mean more traditional puzzles, although I thought some of the puzzles BotW had were really creative and could still populate the world. If they blow out the BotW idea, combine it with traditional dungeons
, and add the hookshot,
Shrink the size of BotW by about a 3rd and combine regions (Like both of the snow regions and some of the wooded regions) so you get down to 7-8 regions instead of the 13 in BotW and make a region-specific dungeon like the one I described above and that would help a lot. I loved a lot of regions, but there wasn't a ton to do in them if they didn't have a Divine Beast
Human Trashcan
Banned
you can fuck your teacher
When you can poke then with your stylus?
Basileus777
Member
They're constantly telling you everything else over and over and over and over and over though.
broncobuster
Banned
Same here. BotW will probably remain my GOTY but it made me miss quality dungeons, boss fights, etc. Ideally the BotW followup keeps those open world immersive sim qualities as it introduces what was missing.
It reminds me of how I felt about Resident Evil 4. One of the best games I played but at the same time had me missing things from Resident Evil 2 and the Gamecube RE1 Remake.
SeriuzBiznus
Member
This is the only correct opinion.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
"Hey guys, 5th time we've stolen hearts here, but seeing that we finished the dungeon in one day how can we be sure that we've actually stolen their heart even though we went through the same thing as those 5 other times?"
"Just text me a reminder everyday lol"
"For the next 30 days?"
"Totally, yes."
"Just text me a reminder everyday lol"
"For the next 30 days?"
"Totally, yes."
Basileus777
Member
If you cut out every text message Persona 5 would be like a 37% better game.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm kind of joking around seeing that I don't mind it that much, but yes.
Or at least do more with it.
Which is one of the weaknesses of Persona 5 seeing that it doesn't feel like the way friends actually talk to each other in chat.
Or had more fun with them. Tokyo Mirage Sessions had a lot of really entertaining text messages which made the characters even more likeable.
3rd dungeon was great and had such a great theme.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Huh.
I would say the dungeons got worse as the game went on.
Which is fine because dungeons were always the worst part of persona.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Some of yall need the cleansing fire of SMT:Nocturne's dungeons in your lives.
Cuz maybe those P5 dungeons weren't BIG enough and HARD enough.
Cuz maybe those P5 dungeons weren't BIG enough and HARD enough.
broncobuster
Banned
Weird opinion: I think I preferred the dungeons in Persona 4 because they were so simplistic. Didnt particularly care for the puzzles or gimmicks of dungeons when Im just trying to reach the boss.
I like the three but in a different order.
I like the three but in a different order.
VeryGooster
Banned
Man I totally forgot Persona 5 happened.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Oh don't get me wrong, I speak of their flaws but I still love them.
And that is the correct order yes.
Never beat Nocturne as a kid. Got my ass kicked and I didn't understand the whole fusing mechanic, lol
I like them all as well, though they certainly have their issues. I'd go 3>4>5, with 3 being one my favourite games ever. 4 and 5 are pretty close but I'd probably give to to 4 just because it was my first Persona game and 5 suffered from some diminishing returns.
kambaybolongo
Member
5>4>3
The text stuff was bad but easily skippable since it was a retread on the conversation you already had. Seemed kind of like the team working on the texts were completely separate from the gameplay team, but they were both told to make sure they covered all of the story beats. Better scripting should have been included for when you cleared a dungeon early or when you started dating a character. I will say at least 4 included dialogue in the dungeons around that.
Dungeons though were the best change. 3 and 4 were always a slog because of the dungeon design (or lack there of). I was sick of the dungeon portions by the end of both games and dreaded spending any time in them. 5 made the dungeons fun, interesting, and varied enough.
They still need to move away from the high school setting and the calendar business unless they can better manage story pacing.
Dungeons though were the best change. 3 and 4 were always a slog because of the dungeon design (or lack there of). I was sick of the dungeon portions by the end of both games and dreaded spending any time in them. 5 made the dungeons fun, interesting, and varied enough.
They still need to move away from the high school setting and the calendar business unless they can better manage story pacing.
KillerDark
Member
Some of yall need the cleansing fire of SMT:Nocturne's dungeons in your lives.
Cuz maybe those P5 dungeons weren't BIG enough and HARD enough.
Oh man... memories haha. This and DDS1 and 2 are the only SMT games I have ever played to completion. Noctourne was tough though.
Hope this ain't based on dungeons cuz P3 dungeons were trash. I couldn't finish P3 cuz the dungeons turned me off.