avengers23
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We will all be dead in a nuclear inferno before 3.0 + 1.0 is out.
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We will all be dead in a nuclear inferno before 3.0 + 1.0 is out.
Dangansona
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No way, PP3>1>>2, and the games in 4 seemed good to me. What are you basing this on? Did GB do something with it?
funkystudent
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Please be this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=447692
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687317
South Park really is one of the few things I'd legitimately blame "both sides". PC Principal turned out to not be a villain or the target of the season, but rather represented an ever-present sense of PC-ness in modern conversation (for better or worse depending on your view), and everyone took the positives and negatives they wanted to out of that instead of looking at the whole thing. Same goes for the whole episode about shaming in its many forms. Like PC Principal it turned into a meme that was a single picture with big impact font "Safe Space" to be utilized by crappy people when it was trying to say a hell of a lot more than that.
South Park, since it became very of-the-moment and political, generally draws ire because it provides everyone ammunition and they are all seeing what the want to see in it. So you get the reaction, the backlash, the backlash-backlash, etc, all swirling around it without getting to the point the actual show was making. And for what it's worth, I think trying to make these seasons serialized is interesting and brave for something so inherently reactionary, but is kind of not working. The standalone episodes in recent seasons (like the Lorde or Yaoi episodes) are so much stronger.
Also straight up saying "Yeah, we're done targeting Trump" long before they even started producing the new season was a bit of cowardice. Maybe they changed their mind and have now, I haven't seen any of the new season yet.
For real though, not having Obsidian on the new game is going to prove to be a mistake. I can feel it.
Only until after we all are cleansed by nuclear fire will we truly deserve the final Evangelion film.
why.
formated4tv
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They UPF'ed PP4.
And you're right, I'll agree with that order. I just looked at what games were in which pack.
PP3 has the murder game and Fakin' It, both of which I thought looked cool and fun.
PP1 I liked because all of the games were "solid" in my opinion, and didn't super rely on the whole audience thing.
I feel like PP4 leans way the fuck into the "This is only fun if we stream it" ideas, and the games that are in it don't seem fun to me.
BreezyLimbo
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Evangelion is a tryhard edgy 2 smrt 4 u show. Its like rick and morty but the creators take themselves serious.
Han Seoul-Oh
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I already have 3.33 so I'll watch it, but I won't have my expectations to be high for it. Besides, it can't be any worse then MacGruber.
avengers23
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Very true. At least we won't have to deal with whatever Anno decides to come up with to fix all the issues from 3.33, though he might just ignore all those story beats that ruined 3.33 in the first place.
TheTylerRob
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I don't think that's what rick and morty is either.
avengers23
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I'm Pickle Shinji!
Dangansona
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If that's true that would be a bummer. I could see how that is a tempting trap to fall for.
LurkerPrime
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Oh... There's more than one Jackbox game? That explains so much.
The Dear Leader
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#followthehoney
formated4tv
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There's four Jackbox Party Packs, and all of them have 5-6 games in them a piece.
I think they only doubled up a few times so there's probably about 16-18 'games' in between all the JPPs.
BreezyLimbo
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Anyone here play DND before? Me and my friends got a starter set and Ima be dming. Should I watch the Giant Bomb unplugged to learn?
Kinda.
Theory is the Rebuild movies take place after the end of End of Eva, so same timeline. There are comparison shots on the web, particularly around 1.11 and the original of the show that make a convincing argument. Biggest being that 1.11 started with a similar shot from EoE with the red sea.
If it's a starter set from 5.0, then it should be relatively self-explanatory. You'll probably need to go over how the systems work at a high level and help the team along in terms of what certain things do what. Think of it as a boardgame with a larger ruleset, but also freeform in how to approach any given situation.
Keyser Soze
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I was expecting them to have gave Stick Fight a chance by now. Seem the perfect fit for GB. GI played it recently, and found it a lot of fun
Maybe East will give it a go if they do another Megadate
Maybe East will give it a go if they do another Megadate
I've played some pathfinder and 5E, DMing for your first time playing DND is going to be really, really hard. I haven't done a starter set but manage your group's expectations
I watched Waypoint play a bit of it and it looked like a good time, maybe a decent UPF segment
BreezyLimbo
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Mhm. I get that aspect from reading, basically the dm picks how hard things are, if there are any obstructions, and serves as a guiding hands more or less.
Yeah its 5E. Manage expectations, Ill have to do that.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1447928
Genuinely glad the Weinstein fallout is going to lead to more exposure of abuse.
Also genuinely sad (but not surprised) that video games are rife with it too. If this first big claim is from a man, imagine the stories some women in games must have. In production, I mean. Gamergate was already a fucking shitshow wherein nearly the whole industry showed its ass via inaction.
Genuinely glad the Weinstein fallout is going to lead to more exposure of abuse.
Also genuinely sad (but not surprised) that video games are rife with it too. If this first big claim is from a man, imagine the stories some women in games must have. In production, I mean. Gamergate was already a fucking shitshow wherein nearly the whole industry showed its ass via inaction.
It can be difficult if people have heard stories of DND or watched some shows, because those usually involve homebrew rules/campaign molded around 5E or something like that. There's also a lot of reading for the DM, but if you're doing it with a totally new group maybe you can share responsibilities.
Sometimes I think he goes up his own ass a lot but I sure loved Shin Godzilla.
I mean my understanding is the more important thing is
its always been implied that Kaworu in a lot of Evangelion versions/adaptations is the exact same person. IIRC he says something specific in the Rebuild films that further indicates this is the case and that hes lived through what happened before.
If you wanna learn basics of how to play DND, listen to the first couples episodes of the Join The Party podcast. It's a group of friends playing DND, and while that's been done to death, they released versions of the first couple episodes where one of the players explains the rules while they're playing.
were people mad at him here? I was just 'he just needs someone to explain it to him in terms he understands'
Vinny got about halfway there but he really needs an Austin to step in. (Austin explaining stuff to Dan so that Dan gets it is one of my favourite things about GB cos they jive really well)
PS: DnD sucks for newbies and honestly even as someone who's played a shittonne of CRPGs I don't like DnD or Pathfinder. I actually share a lot of Dan's complaints: it's boring as fuck to actually play because the rules hedge you in too much and the systems are creatively too dependant on whether your DM is any good. 5th edition onwards actually exascerabated this for me since they made the combat more like a tactical game which SUCKS without instant calculators.
Vinny got about halfway there but he really needs an Austin to step in. (Austin explaining stuff to Dan so that Dan gets it is one of my favourite things about GB cos they jive really well)
PS: DnD sucks for newbies and honestly even as someone who's played a shittonne of CRPGs I don't like DnD or Pathfinder. I actually share a lot of Dan's complaints: it's boring as fuck to actually play because the rules hedge you in too much and the systems are creatively too dependant on whether your DM is any good. 5th edition onwards actually exascerabated this for me since they made the combat more like a tactical game which SUCKS without instant calculators.
That's mostly why that talk was great, DnD is INCREDIBLY confusing if you've never played. I played like twice and had literally the same questions as he did
I think youre right about Dungeon World being a good fit for him. The only part that was complicated for me was disabusing myself of a D&D mindset and since Dan doesnt have that it should be even simpler.
Blitzrules240
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The showdown in Torontotown.
DND players are dorks and nerds. Why would cool guy Dan Ryckert associate with people who play it?
formated4tv
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The only question(s) I'd have for you I guess is do you have a good imagination? And are you good with describing things?
You're basically the writer and director of a movie if you're DMing.
Yes, you can go:
"Okay. You're in a room. Uh...there's a door in here." and hope to lead them towards something.
But, you have the ability to go "You walk into a run-down home that's littered with trinkets and knick knacks. It looks like there's remnants of an old apothecary in here, and there's still some jars with objects in them." and lead them towards going "Are there doors? What's in the jars? What else is in here?" etc.
I don't know if DnD is good for this but I think it's good tabletop in general to cede a certain level of control of things to your players.
Ask questions of your players and use the answers. Let them decide bits and pieces of the world. A world they have authorship of, even partially, is one they're invested in. Of course control the tone - if you're playing DnD your character can't, unfortunately, be a cheap rental car, but being a bit more hands-off than the traditional tabletop experience could probably be fine.
It'll depend game-to-game though... I mean, I basically only play PbtA games so that sort of stuff is baked into the mechanics.
Ask questions of your players and use the answers. Let them decide bits and pieces of the world. A world they have authorship of, even partially, is one they're invested in. Of course control the tone - if you're playing DnD your character can't, unfortunately, be a cheap rental car, but being a bit more hands-off than the traditional tabletop experience could probably be fine.
It'll depend game-to-game though... I mean, I basically only play PbtA games so that sort of stuff is baked into the mechanics.
Don't be like Rorie and block people at every juncture. If they wanna do something stupid, figure out a way to fit it in there.
I know you hate the McElroys, but you should check out a few early episodes of The Adventure Zone and a few later episodes and see how Griffin grows as a DM. The guys gradually do dumber and dumber shit, and he just goes along with it.
I know you hate the McElroys, but you should check out a few early episodes of The Adventure Zone and a few later episodes and see how Griffin grows as a DM. The guys gradually do dumber and dumber shit, and he just goes along with it.
In some ways it's worse than MacGruber. MacGruber is more honest about itself, at least.
But! I hope you enjoy and make sure you tell us all about it here afterwards.
there's nothing more dispiriting as a tabletop gamer than being told 'no you can't do that' so as a gm you should really save it for the situations where you're like "Okay, we're playing a medieval fantasy elves and orcs adventure, we all decided on this months ago" and someone's like "I WANT TO BE A RENTACAR TRANSFORMER WITH A LIGHTSABRE"
formated4tv
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That's pretty much the key of being a good DM. You reign in it only if you completely have to and it's game-breaking, but aside from that, let everyone use their imaginations. I played (some DnD type game) when I was younger, and our DM was super good about just letting us do whatever we wanted. As long as you can work in into your character (and the dice are on your side) there's no limits.
BreezyLimbo
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Thanks for the ideas, I might check out Adventure Zone. And yeah, as far as my own imagination, I've studied acting hardcore so when it comes to leading people or coming up with scenarios, I should naturally be able to do that(As writing and directing is something I've learned about as well). It should be fun, I imagine.
Hindenblewp
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In some ways it's worse than MacGruber. MacGruber is more honest about itself, at least.
But! I hope you enjoy and make sure you tell us all about it here afterwards.
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